No 70D threads in a while...what are your predictions?

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OK, I have not seen any threads in a while specifically about the rumored 70D. It comes up in threads about possible 7D upgrades, but only as a product lineup issue.

So what do you think? Timing? Features?

My two cents.

Phototonica announcement (maybe sooner). On shelves by Thanksgiving.

8fps
22MP
dual SD slots
7D autofocus
more rugged body than 60D
and hopefully focus peeking
 
stabmasterasron said:
OK, I have not seen any threads in a while specifically about the rumored 70D. It comes up in threads about possible 7D upgrades, but only as a product lineup issue.

So what do you think? Timing? Features?

My two cents.

Phototonica announcement (maybe sooner). On shelves by Thanksgiving.

8fps
22MP
dual SD slots
7D autofocus
more rugged body than 60D
and hopefully focus peeking

I don't think we will see dual card slots. And burst rate will be about 6fps. Resolution sounds about right. Just my guess!
 
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Tcapp said:
stabmasterasron said:
OK, I have not seen any threads in a while specifically about the rumored 70D. It comes up in threads about possible 7D upgrades, but only as a product lineup issue.

So what do you think? Timing? Features?

My two cents.

Phototonica announcement (maybe sooner). On shelves by Thanksgiving.

8fps
22MP
dual SD slots
7D autofocus
more rugged body than 60D
and hopefully focus peeking

I don't think we will see dual card slots. And burst rate will be about 6fps. Resolution sounds about right. Just my guess!

6fps? Isn't 60D already 6fps? I say it has to be 8fps with deep buffer, else why upgrade? And if Canon is trying to compete with d7000, it needs more pro features (like dual card slots).
 
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stabmasterasron said:
Tcapp said:
stabmasterasron said:
OK, I have not seen any threads in a while specifically about the rumored 70D. It comes up in threads about possible 7D upgrades, but only as a product lineup issue.

So what do you think? Timing? Features?

My two cents.

Phototonica announcement (maybe sooner). On shelves by Thanksgiving.

8fps
22MP
dual SD slots
7D autofocus
more rugged body than 60D
and hopefully focus peeking

I don't think we will see dual card slots. And burst rate will be about 6fps. Resolution sounds about right. Just my guess!

6fps? Isn't 60D already 6fps? I say it has to be 8fps with deep buffer, else why upgrade? And if Canon is trying to compete with d7000, it needs more pro features (like dual card slots).

The FPS dropped moving from 50D to 60D. That doesn't always get upgraded in this level of body. They are not pro cameras. From imaging resources "the Canon 60D can shoot at 5.3 frames per second. That's down from the 50D's 6.3 frames per second, one of the first downgrades on the list." I think they might increase the resolution and try to keep the frame rate the same.
 
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Tcapp said:
stabmasterasron said:
Tcapp said:
stabmasterasron said:
OK, I have not seen any threads in a while specifically about the rumored 70D. It comes up in threads about possible 7D upgrades, but only as a product lineup issue.

So what do you think? Timing? Features?

My two cents.

Phototonica announcement (maybe sooner). On shelves by Thanksgiving.

8fps
22MP
dual SD slots
7D autofocus
more rugged body than 60D
and hopefully focus peeking

I don't think we will see dual card slots. And burst rate will be about 6fps. Resolution sounds about right. Just my guess!

6fps? Isn't 60D already 6fps? I say it has to be 8fps with deep buffer, else why upgrade? And if Canon is trying to compete with d7000, it needs more pro features (like dual card slots).

The FPS dropped moving from 50D to 60D. That doesn't always get upgraded in this level of body. They are not pro cameras. From imaging resources "the Canon 60D can shoot at 5.3 frames per second. That's down from the 50D's 6.3 frames per second, one of the first downgrades on the list." I think they might increase the resolution and try to keep the frame rate the same.
Well, yes the 60D was downgraded in some respects from the 50D. I suspect that is because of the presence of the 7D. But I am guessing the 7D mkii (if it ever comes) will go way upscale from the position of the 7D. That will leave room for a return of the xxD line to where it was before (read – more than just a “super rebel”). May see some magnesium return. May see a little environmental sealing return. I am guessing I may not get my dual SD slots, but you never know.
But if, as you suggest, Canon does nothing but upgrade the sensor and leaves the fps, and AF the same (or nearly the same), I think the d7000 represents a better value. If the digic 5 is truly 6 or 7 times faster (or whatever they claim) than digic 4, I think they can do better than 6 fps.
 
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I agree that if anything a 7D Mark II must address the 7D's problem areas without taking away any of its obvious advantages such as the 8 frames per second. I would expect better low light capabilities, which would be a change in the same direction Canon is taking with the 1D-X and 5D Mark III, basically attacking Nikon where they had an advantage with the D3/D3s. I don't think it will make too much sense increasing the pixel count in this model, because here pixel density is already quite a factor.
 
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Canon might as well give up - Nikon is brewing a storm with their bodies these days! Great specs, great prices - they (Nikon) it addressing what the customers want.

Canon, unfortunately will release another half-assed "upgrade" and bump up the price!

There are losers born every second in this world...
 
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Tcapp said:
From imaging resources "the Canon 60D can shoot at 5.3 frames per second. That's down from the 50D's 6.3 frames per second, one of the first downgrades on the list."

The 60d actually has more fps than Canon specifies, esp. on raw, that and removing afma tells you how desperate they were to separate it from their 7d flagship. The real issue with fps seemed to be the digic4 cpu, thus the dual cpu design on the 7d with its iq problems - but with the updated digic5, they might have solved this. Maybe they'll settle for 7fps, or lower if there is an aps-h birding body on the horizon.

AmbientLight said:
I agree that if anything a 7D Mark II must address the 7D's problem areas without taking away any of its obvious advantages such as the 8 frames per second. I would expect better low light capabilities [...] I don't think it will make too much sense increasing the pixel count in this model, because here pixel density is already quite a factor.

You won't see a big jump in low light capability - they'll transfer the improvements from the 5d2->5d3 sensor design to crop, and you'll maybe gain 1-2 stops. But then again, marketing dictates that they'll move to 20+ mp and this might eat up one stop that would have been gained on 18mp.

Seeing how Canon acts and if they'll dump the 7d2 to release and entry-level ff or aps-h later on, the 70d will be the usual 50d-like stuff: good build quility, good video with swivel screen (they won't reserve this for the 600d), good usability and moderate customizability.

The xxd is not only and entry-level model, so if they discontinue the 60d/7d a lot of people with Canon lenses will get this one because the 5d3 is so much more expensive and ff is not for everyone. If they sell it for ~1300$-1500$ and place an upcoming aps-h/ff version at $2000+, they'll have a winner as far as sales are concerned.
 
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If the 7D line does carry on I wouldnt be supprized to see it end up with a difference sensor to the one that will filter down though the other crop bodies, maybe staying at 18 MP and boosting ISO/FPS performance while the other models move up to 24 MP one at a time.

70D

24 MP
7D AF
6 FPS
50D build

7D mk2

18 MP
New pro AF
12 FPS
7D build
 
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I have the 60d and was contemplating an upgrade to the 7d but think I will hold off until the 7d mark ii gets released. I'm not too pleased with the af on the 60d and hear the 19 points on the 7d is much much better. However, I love the swivel screen on the 60d. Do we think a 70d or 7d mark ii would have a swivel screen? I hope the proposed 7d mark ii will keep the 19 point af and e-ttl wireless flash....
 
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stabmasterasron said:
OK, I have not seen any threads in a while specifically about the rumored 70D. It comes up in threads about possible 7D upgrades, but only as a product lineup issue.

So what do you think? Timing? Features?

My two cents.

Phototonica announcement (maybe sooner). On shelves by Thanksgiving.

8fps
22MP
dual SD slots
7D autofocus
more rugged body than 60D
and hopefully focus peeking
Yep, you've just described the 7D mk2 (except for the $1700 launch price)
 
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dr croubie said:
stabmasterasron said:
OK, I have not seen any threads in a while specifically about the rumored 70D. It comes up in threads about possible 7D upgrades, but only as a product lineup issue.

So what do you think? Timing? Features?

My two cents.

Phototonica announcement (maybe sooner). On shelves by Thanksgiving.

8fps
22MP
dual SD slots
7D autofocus
more rugged body than 60D
and hopefully focus peeking
Yep, you've just described the 7D mk2 (except for the $1700 launch price)

So what you are saying is the 7Dmkii will only have an updated sensor compared to the 7D? Don't see it happening. For MK II they must at least bump up fps. And most would be disappointed if they did not upgrade the AF system (although, this is certainly not a weak point of the current 7D). But anyway, this is a 70D forum post. I see the 7Dmkii going way up the food chain with a >$2k price, thus clearing room for a much more well appointed 70D. In fact I would not be surprised to see a 70D that has a lot of the current 7D specs (or close to them sans super rugged body) with an updated sensor and a $1350 intro price. If that is the case, I think one will be under my Christmas tree.
 
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stevenrrmanir said:
Canon might as well give up - Nikon is brewing a storm with their bodies these days! Great specs, great prices - they (Nikon) it addressing what the customers want.

Canon, unfortunately will release another half-assed "upgrade" and bump up the price!

There are losers born every second in this world...

I agree that Nikon is making products the people want right now. Don't mean to keep harping on it, but the d7000 is a fantastic body at a really competitive price for what if offers (yes, I have shot with it, I have a really good local rental place with really nice people working there). Canon must address this particular piece of competition, or else risk losing lots of upgraders. I have been shooting Canon for a while now, but have to admit that Nikon makes a really good argument to change systems. I know I have mentioned the Nikon d7000 a few times in this thread, but that is because this is where the competition is. If Canon can't do better than this Nikon body, then they are in trouble.
 
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AmbientLight said:
I admit it makes me wonder why people would troll like that. What's the purpose of it? :o

Trolling is a good laugh to the troll because one tiny post typed in some secs generates loads of enraged comments - either people really arguing about the given subject, or about trolling in general. The simple rule is: "don't feed the troll".
 
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