One of my favorite photographer goes mirror less

Jan 22, 2012
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http://www.juzaphoto.com/article.php?l=en&t=from_reflex_to_mirrorless_sony_a5100

Around 6 years ago when I restarted photography after 15 years (film to digital) I found Juza on internet and learned a lot from his website.
 
I like that site too, very informative.

Funny thing is, he switched to mirrorless, but not with the lenses :) That may be an emerging trend and also a warning to Canon or Nikon - some sort of transition zone, until the big boys launch their own competent mirrorless bodies or until the mirrorless leaders upgrade their lens lineup.
 
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thats great for the type of photography he shoots...but let me see him try to shoot a full wedding with that rig or a heavily scheduled fashion shoot or sports....

mirrorless is a neat technological development but i don't see it ever replacing entirely the convenience of looking through an OVF and being able to see and react quickly to your subject matter.

call me old school....
 
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Mirrorless has it own special - small, light weight easy to carry around on certain lenses.

I would switch to mirrorless if my kids weren't in sports. For landscape and everyday photos, current mirrorless is good enough for me.
 
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Dylan777 said:
Mirrorless has it own special - small, light weight easy to carry around on certain lenses.

I would switch to mirrorless if my kids weren't in sports. For landscape and everyday photos, current mirrorless is good enough for me.

Dylan, what lenses do you use on your mirrorless body (Sony A7r I believe)? Do you use a Metabones adapter?
 
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bholliman said:
Dylan777 said:
Mirrorless has it own special - small, light weight easy to carry around on certain lenses.

I would switch to mirrorless if my kids weren't in sports. For landscape and everyday photos, current mirrorless is good enough for me.

Dylan, what lenses do you use on your mirrorless body (Sony A7r I believe)? Do you use a Metabones adapter?
I have fe55mm. I tried adapter for Canon mount, hated it. The fe35mm works and fits very well with a7 series. Next best fit is fe55mm and iq is really good.
 
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Dylan777 said:
Mirrorless has it own special - small, light weight easy to carry around on certain lenses.

I would switch to mirrorless if my kids weren't in sports. For landscape and everyday photos, current mirrorless is good enough for me.

Interesting conclusion, at least some mirrorless camera, e.g. Nikon V3, can shoot at 20FPS with a vary high reported focus rate. I would think the speed and compactness of mirrorless would be ideal for family sporting events with the DSLR best for landscapes for their IQ and DR.
 
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LarryC said:
Dylan777 said:
Mirrorless has it own special - small, light weight easy to carry around on certain lenses.

I would switch to mirrorless if my kids weren't in sports. For landscape and everyday photos, current mirrorless is good enough for me.

Interesting conclusion, at least some mirrorless camera, e.g. Nikon V3, can shoot at 20FPS with a vary high reported focus rate. I would think the speed and compactness of mirrorless would be ideal for family sporting events with the DSLR best for landscapes for their IQ and DR.
Larry, I do not have much experience with Nikon gear. I owned Sony a7, a7r, rx1, fuji X100s. None of these cameras could give me the tracking capabilities like dslr. I'll save my judgements for Nikon mirrorless since haven't touch them.
 
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Interesting. I follow Juza as well. Just checked and the A5100 is $549. Maybe a replacement for my M, but not 5DIII. Do the adapters allow AF with canon lenses? I'll probably stay the course, but as I said in another thread, I like options.
 
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"I am very fascinated by the Sony A7s and its super clean, 12 megapixels fullframe sensor, but I have asked myself: how many times I use high ISO for macro and landscapes? The majority of my photos are taken at low ISO, and here fullframe does not offer big advantages in comparison to APS-C. For the rare situations when I'll need great high ISO (for example, northern lights trips), I'll borrow a FF camera."
The single biggest issue for a pro who shoots events is having full frame to be able to have the flexibility to shoot low light when the situation demands it. The size/weight advantage is really negligible compared to the weight of high quality wide aperture full frame lenses. Mirrorless is great for certain people and situations and for casual use I would personally be tempted if I wasn't putting every dollar I had into my pro equipment!
 
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I'd like to upgrade my 600d+400 5.6, and I'd say that 50% of my photographs are of stationary subjects where the 600d's af is absolutely fine. And about 50% of the time I photograph birds in flight and if I have the camera on f5.6 I'm lucky to get 20% of the frames in focus. With the lens at f8 I don't miss much.
How big a difference is the af now?
 
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To me this means it is a matter of time before mirror less starts giving DSLR serious competition. Many who look down on mirror less will change their stand once their favorite company (Canon/Nikon) starts making them.
Also the distain to electronic viewfinders will go away. I work with Alexia and Red cameras on a daily basis and find the finders amazing. I also find my Fuji XE find AMAZING. I believe there are other cameras that have even better electronic finder.
Mirror less is here to stay and grow. Rather rapidly I think.
 
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Help me understand...how is a mirrorless camera better?

In the article he says the Sony is good up to 1600 ISO? Really...my old 7D was good up to 1600 ISO!

Needs an adapter to use larger full frame sized lenses? What is the advantage of the small sized mirror-less camera if you don't have all the small sized lenses to go with it? Seems like a kludge!

So you prefer the electric shutter rather than a mirror and mechanical shutter assembly? Well...at least when the mechanical one wears out, it can be easily replaced. Good luck with the electrical equivalent goes out!

These arguments seem to have little merit and only serve to justify his idiotic abandonment of truly renowned systems: those being from Canon and Nikon.

--Jason
 
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agierke said:
thats great for the type of photography he shoots...but let me see him try to shoot a full wedding with that rig or a heavily scheduled fashion shoot or sports....

mirrorless is a neat technological development but i don't see it ever replacing entirely the convenience of looking through an OVF and being able to see and react quickly to your subject matter.

call me old school....

Author of article: "This isn't for sports or wildlife and its not full frame so it doesn't work well for low light"

The internet: "Yeah, but let me see him use that setup for sports! Lol mirrorless, amirite?!"

jasonsim said:
Help me understand...how is a mirrorless camera better?

It does the same things for him that DSLRs do except in a smaller, lighter package. This is explained pretty clearly in the article.

jasonsim said:
Needs an adapter to use larger full frame sized lenses? What is the advantage of the small sized mirror-less camera if you don't have all the small sized lenses to go with it? Seems like a kludge!

That's just Sony. Olympus, Fuji, and even Samsung have pretty decent native lens lineups. Not as much choice as DSLR but, well, the systems haven't been around nearly as long. That problem is a function of time and maturation of the system; it doesn't reflect one way or another on mirrorless as a technology. Also, the writer pretty clearly states that he is maintaining his lenses as a hedge in case Canon finally starts making good mirrorless products.

jasonsim said:
So you prefer the electric shutter rather than a mirror and mechanical shutter assembly? Well...at least when the mechanical one wears out, it can be easily replaced. Good luck with the electrical equivalent goes out!

Physical mechanisms fail at vastly higher rates than purely electrical components under normal use.

Global electronic shutters, which are pretty much inevitable at this point, will confer tons of advantages a mechanical shutter can never approach. Arbitrarily fast shutter speeds, arbitrarily fast sync speeds, fps burst speeds limited only by throughput, elimination of rolling shutter, etc. While this isn't available for stills cameras yet (that I know of anyway), its only a matter of time. Sony might even have one now, if you believe some of the rumors.

jasonsim said:
These arguments seem to have little merit and only serve to justify his idiotic abandonment of truly renowned systems: those being from Canon and Nikon.

Seems like its working out for that guy just fine?
 
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jasonsim said:
Help me understand...how is a mirrorless camera better?

In the article he says the Sony is good up to 1600 ISO? Really...my old 7D was good up to 1600 ISO!

Needs an adapter to use larger full frame sized lenses? What is the advantage of the small sized mirror-less camera if you don't have all the small sized lenses to go with it? Seems like a kludge!

So you prefer the electric shutter rather than a mirror and mechanical shutter assembly? Well...at least when the mechanical one wears out, it can be easily replaced. Good luck with the electrical equivalent goes out!

These arguments seem to have little merit and only serve to justify his idiotic abandonment of truly renowned systems: those being from Canon and Nikon.

--Jason

He mentioned the advantages in weight, size and silence. The electronic shutter cannot wear out as it is a function of sensor readout. For his work the tilt screen and variety of lenses available via adapters make it a happy choice for him.
I have all Canon gear and a Panasonic GX-7 and I have to say I really like silent shutter and an EVF. The camera is actually a bit too small for my hands but it makes images that are startlingly good even in comparison to my FF gear. The biggest challenge for ML users IMO is battery life. Small cameras mean small batteries in a high electrical demand device.
 
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I used to believe the mirrorless has big advantages themes and tried a Sony A7R and Canon lens adaptor. To me that was a disaster and I returned it after a few days. The claimed sensor resolution made very little difference to the image quality over a 5D mark III and the shutter was noisy and vibrated significantly. put anything long than 100mm lens and the images blurred from this. I still would like a lighter format body, but remain happy travelling with a DSLR body because its so adaptable and works. A simple example is I do use the EVF panel at 10 times magnification on the DSLR to get focus on landscapes. the A7R won't do this unless you use Sony branded lenses, there ends up being lots of little compromises in the shooting options, no remote shutter easily available so make your own etc etc. This format will mature and compete eventually but it will be interesting to see how restricted models are so they don't carve out the dslr market entirely so I wouldn't rush again.
 
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sanj said:
Around 6 years ago when I restarted photography after 15 years (film to digital) I found Juza on internet and learned a lot from his website.

Interesting, hopefully similar opinions from reputable photogs will speed up Canon's movement towards new sensors and mirrorless. They certainly are on the right track with their dual_pixel af, the only question is how long they'll try to milk the current old-school dslr customers with the legacy technology.

Btw outstanding shots on this link.
 
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