Owning APS-C and Full Frame

If you are worried about 4 bodies I need to go to cameras anonymous.
  • 2x AE-1
  • Rebel XS
  • Canon 60D
  • Canon M from fire sell
  • Canon Elan 7
  • Canon 6D
  • Sony Nex6 hated the kit lens
  • Sony A7II
  • Olympus OMD E-M5

In general my APS-C cameras are sitting unused. I am considering selling my Nex6, Canon 60D and almost all of my APC-S lenses. I would only buy a Canon APS-C camera now if you have a very specific need of the 7D II. ISO performance and IQ of a full frame is just better.

My A7II has replaced my Nex6. I thought that I would use the 60D more for range but after getting the Tamron 150-600 I just use my 6D. I have been using the A7II unless I need autofocus.
 
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I'm split 70/30% on usage between my 5D and 60D. I got a used 5D a year ago and I pick it up more than my 60D for everyday pictures. My main genre is youth sports and neither camera is great at it. You have to get your timing down with both. I would probably be happier with a 7Dii/6D combo. As others have stated, once you get a FF camera that has the features you want, your crop will probably start to see more shelf time.
 
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Did anyone else get in on that crazy Canon Store refurb discount code stacking "mistake-deal" they had a week or so back? I picked up a 7D mkII for $871.37!

I wasn't in a rush to upgrade my 7D which I still shoot paired with my 5DII, but the deal was too good to pass up.

Ultimately I'll upgrade my 5DII to the 5DS-r as my studio camera, and use the 7DII for family and just playing around camera. I like having a crop camera mixed with a FF camera mostly because I love playing with lenses so much, and there are some cool and fun crop lenses too!
 
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neuroanatomist said:
For some time, I had the 7D and the 5DII. The 7D was used for birds/wildlife (for better AF and frame rate mostly), the 5DII was used for everything else. The 1D X replaced both.

My EOS M2 is used when I need a small camera (fits in coat pocket with 22/2, on a belt with 18-55/11-22, which is exactly why I bought it. The 1D X for everything else, all that changes are the lenses I bring.

For the price I paid for a T5i (now gone), a 70D, and a 5D III... I could have had a 1Dx. I love the 5D III, but the 1Dx was my ultimate goal. I'm not going to make it.

I thought I would never spend the money on a 1Dx. I already have and don't have it still.

I love the 5D III. Not so much the 70D for BIF and sports (Due to the AF compared to the 7D II) However, a 1Dx in my bag all by itself would have been wonderful.
 
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5DIII – my seldom used all around workhorse. Suitable for 75% of shooting of all situations. If you need to shoot in low-light this is my preferred option.

7DII -- my budget 1 Dx for sports,action and money shots part 2 lol, ive been cropping alot of my hs football and action shots. At higher ISOs the images look "grainy" (like film) not "noisy" (like electronics), which is a much more pleasing look in my opinion.
 
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I made a different choice.
I couldn't see myself using L lenses on a canon APS-C, the focals do not match my liking (24-105 for example, is too long at the wide end, much too long. And the 16-35 while a bit long at the wide end, still, is so very short at the long end...)
And the reach advantage is not something I'm using that often... so... I went for an Oly E-M10 for the size and weight. (and the very affordable price of a used E-M10 + a used 12-32 Panasonic).
I've since then added a PanaLeica 15mm f/1.7 to the mix and I got my ideal "always in the bag" camera for casual use and chance shot. When things get serious, I bring out the 6D and the L's. :)

Djaaf.
 
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I've found myself fluctuating back and forth between crop and full frame for the past 10 years.

I started with a 20D and used that for about 2-3 years.

Went to a 5D and used my 20D for wildlife and macro.

Went to a 5D II for landscape and got a 50D for wildlife and macro.

Got a 70D and started using that almost exclusively for a year. Probably my favorite all around camera for me that Canon has ever made.

Got a 7D Mark II for Wildlife.

Got a 5Ds R for Landscape.

Currently, I use the 5DS R the most (probably because it's the newest), followed by the 70D (take it when I want a light load), followed by the 7D Mark II.
 
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Im running a 5d3 + M1 combo (phottix metal grip), with a backup T2i and a 450d keep on the shelf of for the memories. The 5d & M1 come with me to every event. Otherwise the lil buddy is always in my daily bag, just in case.

Still haven't sold my 6d yet...gotta get rid of that.

If my g12 didnt break, i'd carry that around half of the time. The T2i has been consistent for years, what a great lil cam.
 
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I have been doing mostly landscape and macro for the last year or so, and have the 6D for that, with a bunch of prime lenses, but also have added (very recently) the 7D2 for birding, which I tend to do mostly in the winter locally. My 60D was my previous birding and general travel / 1 lens camera, used with the 400mm f/5.6L and the 15-85mm f/variable. That last is a great all-around zoom.

I also have the Sigma DP2 Merrill, a nice fixed-lens (45mm equivalent) camera with exceptional image quality and the most pokey, annoying RAW converter ever (Foveon sensor files are not supported by major software companies, which leaves the Sigma Photo Pro pokey (but good output) RAW converter software and Iridient as the only options.

Film cameras? I never use mine, a Mamiya-Sekor DTL 1000 M42 mount 35mm camera, but I am never selling it either, just because it gives me great nostalgia to hold it occasionally. I have a few left-over lenses and cameras from my parents, including an old FD-mount AE1 and an EF mount "Rebel-ish" film camera, and my dad's Nikon lenses (the camera was sold) - I use the Nikon lenses and some of my M42-mount lenses on the 6D via adapter. Pleasing rendition (color and bokeh), and quite sharp, but of course there is more aberration than with modern computer-aided designs.
 
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I started out with a Canon rangefinder my dad brought back from Korea, then went to Olympus 35mm, then Oly DSLR's. Sold all my Oly stuff when they went 4/3rds.

I bought the 6D. I found this to be a great landscape, macro, and nightscape body, but I missed the bigger zooms and wildlife photography.

Big white for a 6D with it's single focus and slow fps, or a crop body with an affordable zoom, this was a good compromise and this is just a hobby so...

I bought a 7D to use with the 100-400mm when I'm out walking or sitting in a deer blind. I've since upgraded to the 7DII and the 100-400 VII.

Very happy with FF and Crop as they both have their purpose. I carry the 7DII on a sling with the 6D in my backpack.
I even found a 8mm fisheye (12ish mm) for the 7DII that I can set up to do star trails (lower ISO) while I use the 6D for higher ISO's for milkyway nights or other night shots.
 
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I have an SL1 and a 5D3 with a set of reasonable lenses for each. I rarely use the EF lenses on the SL1.

I take the SL1 when I need to travel light or I use it as a backup to the 5D3. Or I bring it if my wife or children might want to use it.

I use the SL1 for video (if video is needed) when I am taking still shots with the 5D3 and L lenses.

Most of the time, however, I use my 5D3 with the 24-105 L or the 35 f/2 IS and/or one of the 70-200 lenses (f/2.8 IS II or f/4 IS).

Even when I need reach, I prefer the 5D3 at 200mm rather than the SL1 @250mm (really @400 given the crop factor on the 55-250).
 
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Use full frame for landscapes. Use crop for shots needing reach and for macro or near macro (such as flowers) shots. Too shallow DOF with the FF for these shots. When I bought the FF expected it to replace the crop I had that needed replacing. It didn't and I ended up buying a new crop. If I had known the FF was not going to meet my needs, would have just bought a crop. No noticeable IQ advantage for the sizes I print (8" x 12" and 6.66' x 10").
 
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very good question. Something which bothers me to. My biggest improvement in photography was the switch from APS-C to FF. I mostly shoot action (wildlife and sport) and landscape. For landscape no doubt, FF is the way to go. However, for action, I see a lot of reactions over here that they prefer APS-C for the supplemental reach. Just as is already mentioned in this thread, the real advantage for APS-C against FF is for sure less then the 1.6 factor. The FF get so much more light on the sensor. In good light a 7D2 can do a great job, which can also offer you a reach advantage. However in dusk and dawn, the advantage is gone. So for Wildlife I grab for sure the FF. The photos of Glenn Bartley from birds with his 7D2 are really stunning. To be honest, I can't reach that level with my APS-C. With my FF however, it's no problem.

Just my 2c.
 
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I had a 70D and got a 6D for high iso performance. AF on both leaves something to be desired, so I replaced the 70D with a 7D2. I still use the 6D for landscape and general purpose, and occasional macro, but I have ended up using the 7D2 a bit more, especially with a 70-200 f/2.8+ 1.4x TC for birds, butterfles, etc. I'm looking at replacing the 6D with either its replacement or the 5D3 replacement, depending on what ends up coming out. I take both bodies when traveling by car, they both get used.
 
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I am pleased with both my 6D and 70D. I use the 6D mostly for landscapes and subjects requiring detail resolution such as fall foliage. I use the 70D for travel when weight and bulk are priorities. I discovered the very good IQ of the 55-250 STM on my 70D, and now I no longer need/want the 100-400 MK2 for my 6D. Just me, of course.
 
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