Patent: A New Canon EF 50 f/1.2 & Suggestion of a Full Frame Mirrorless?
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Viggo said:
Haha, "...the world IS coming..." as in Image Stabilization I get it, because Canon has decided on sticking IS in everything and using that as an excuse to somehow push the price to level insane, and most aren't even L !!
Ok but seriously, I too am more interested in the possibility of a new 50L, it'll have to be one incredible upgrade to the current one though, even with better sharpness and no focus shift, if it'll be more expensive then what, full sealing, 'better' bokeh, faster focusing? It still won't beat the Sigma for it's price and near identical image it produces... but that's not the point, sometimes that red ring makes all the difference
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preppyak said:
The whole point with a mirrorless is it's small size, which makes big lenses - such as super teles - pointless.
So I think the FF mirrorless' line of lenses would be small, say primes from wide up to ~100mm & couple of fast zooms in same focal range.
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If Canon, Nikon or Sony make a reasonably priced(under 3000 dollars) FF mirrorless option about the size of a Leica or smaller, I would be all over it, regardless of whether there was a full system ready.
I would be confident that if any of these three companies released such a camera with a new lens mount that future lenses would follow. As long as they had a 24mm, or 35mm, or a zoom in the range of 24-70ish I would buy it without worrying about the overall system.
i believe that A LOT of other people feel this way.
If the RX1 simply had a removable lens, and the lens was the same Zeiss 35mm F2, I would have bought it already, even if it was the only lens available at the moment.
I would be confident that if any of these three companies released such a camera with a new lens mount that future lenses would follow. As long as they had a 24mm, or 35mm, or a zoom in the range of 24-70ish I would buy it without worrying about the overall system.
i believe that A LOT of other people feel this way.
If the RX1 simply had a removable lens, and the lens was the same Zeiss 35mm F2, I would have bought it already, even if it was the only lens available at the moment.
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For reference, you can find the original patent application here: http://nawaphotography.web.fc2.com/etc/JPA_2012247451.pdf and the machine translation at the site of the Japanese patent office (http://www4.ipdl.inpit.go.jp/Tokujitu/tjsogodben.ipdl?N0000=115 search for A 2012-247451).
Assuming a 24x36mm sensor, a lens should produce an image circle with a radius of 21.63mm.
Interestingly, all four examples mention an "image height (像高)" of 21.64 mm.
I guess this number is what indicates that all four examples are for full frame.
Now keep in mind that the patent application was filed 2011-05-25, i.e. more than a year before the launch date of the EOS M. It could well be that the lens calculations were done before the decision to NOT make a full-frame mirrorless was taken.
Assuming a 24x36mm sensor, a lens should produce an image circle with a radius of 21.63mm.
Interestingly, all four examples mention an "image height (像高)" of 21.64 mm.
I guess this number is what indicates that all four examples are for full frame.
Now keep in mind that the patent application was filed 2011-05-25, i.e. more than a year before the launch date of the EOS M. It could well be that the lens calculations were done before the decision to NOT make a full-frame mirrorless was taken.
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Not convinced yet - BF on the Japanese page is listed at 28mm, so it's just as likely to be a standard EF lens too
Given the current thinking, I'm imagining a 50mm f2.0 IS in a similar style to the 24/28/35mm lenses, no more, no less.... Except perhaps a 50mm f2.0 EF-M
As for the 50mm f1.8 - that will carry on regardless with crappy build, great in low light and a very low price.
Given the current thinking, I'm imagining a 50mm f2.0 IS in a similar style to the 24/28/35mm lenses, no more, no less.... Except perhaps a 50mm f2.0 EF-M
As for the 50mm f1.8 - that will carry on regardless with crappy build, great in low light and a very low price.
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Canon's strong suit is their existing lens lineup....The inevitable move to mirrorless (whenever that is, i didn't say next tuesday) will not leave this valuable per existing asset of lenses behind. Even if near term we see M mounts and other varieties, to diversify and saturate the market to gain revenue, longer term, Canon will likely harmonize these platforms around established EF lens lineup.
I don't know what the exact contours or mechanics of such a platform would be, but I think it is highly likely.
I don't know what the exact contours or mechanics of such a platform would be, but I think it is highly likely.
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RGomezPhotos said:
If you travel from US to Asia 4-6 times a year, you will see why I want FF mirrorless - travel friendly and cleaner images under low light are the keys of this monster. AF speed is not important when you do landscape and still shooting.
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The smartphones with their improving cameras have killed the point & shoot market. It's only a matter of time before they start affecting the low end DSLR market. Some may laugh, but the writing is on the wall. Nokia recently announced a smartphone with a 41 megapixel camera! The line is blurring. Can you imagine what smartphone cameras will be able to do In 5 years time? They will be even more amazing. Super detail. Sallow DOF. Incredible low light capabilities. So canon and the others have to start making the move now.
FF and FF mirror less will be the norm for dslrs in the future.
They will also have to add more social networking, wifi integration to dslrs too.
It's happening folks.
FF and FF mirror less will be the norm for dslrs in the future.
They will also have to add more social networking, wifi integration to dslrs too.
It's happening folks.
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Better phone editing software has a great deal to do with it. There have been a few shots that have fooled me with the blur tool on instagram. If you compose it right, you can simulate a shot with a fast lens. There are limitations, you have to work with a circle or bar, and you can't adjust the amount of blur. I'm sure they will have a paint blur with your fingers tool soon.
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Dylan777 said:
...why dont you just buy a Leica M?
Flying that often sure is expensive. Getting to the airport and everything adds up. @ mobiles will kill low end DSLR market
i dont think so unless we can get APS-C or FF sized sensors in the mobile. and full control about shutter etc. and also be able to change lenses cuz thats why u buy a DSLR.
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