Patent - Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L IS

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<strong>You want IS?


</strong>A patent for an EF 24-70 f/2.8L IS has surfaced finally, this has been a lens that has been talked about and desired for a long time.</p>
<p>We mentioned <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2011/04/a-random-roadmap-lenses-body-cr1/" target="_blank">some time back that there were 5 or 6 version</a> of the new 24-70, and one of them had IS. Canon decided against an IS version for reasons to do with weight, size and cost from what I’m told.</p>
<p>Sadly for the ones that want an IS version of this lens, I have little faith that such a lens will be coming any time soon. Patents can sometimes appear after a product has been announced, and that’s probably what has happened here.</p>
<div id="attachment_10601" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 325px"><a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2470is.png"><img class="size-full wp-image-10601" title="2470is" src="http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2470is.png" alt="" width="315" height="178" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L IS</p></div>
<p><strong>Patent Publication No. 2012-123156</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>2012.6.28 Release Date</li>
<li>2010.12.8 filing date</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Example 1</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Zoom ratio 2.46</li>
<li>68.99mm – f = 28.00 focal length</li>
<li>Fno. 2.88</li>
<li>17.41 deg – 37.69 half angle of view.</li>
<li>Image height 21.64mm</li>
<li>222.38mm – 192.25 full-length lens</li>
<li>BF 39.98 – 53.68</li>
<li>Effective diameter 74.47mm ball before</li>
<li>Effective diameter aperture 31.23mm</li>
<li>19 sheets 12 group lens configuration</li>
<li>Three three aspherical surface</li>
<li>2 UD glass sheet</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Example 2</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Zoom ratio 2.86</li>
<li>68.70 – f = 24.00 focal length</li>
<li>Fno. 2.88</li>
<li>17.48 deg – 42.03 half angle of view.</li>
<li>Image height 21.64mm</li>
<li>224.86mm – 191.93 full-length lens</li>
<li>BF 39.85 – 55.68mm</li>
<li>Effective diameter 77.29mm ball before</li>
<li>Effective diameter aperture 32.58mm</li>
<li>Lens Construction 12 group 21 sheets</li>
<li>Three three aspherical surface</li>
<li>2 UD glass sheet</li>
<li>Five-group zoom positive and negative positive positive and negative</li>
<li>(For Focusing group 2) Inner Focus</li>
<li>(Part 1 of the fourth lens group, anti-vibration unit is L4a) image stabilization</li>
</ul>
<div>Source: [<a href="http://egami.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2012-07-08" target="_blank">EG</a>]</div>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>
 
Two possibilities.

1.) This was one of the lenses tested for the MkII of the 24-70L and it was just patented for the sake of being patented.

2.) Canon actually listens what people want and on top of that Tamron has put pressure on them with their stabilized lens, so they are bringing one out.

I'm willing to bet on the first option though...
 
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RayValdez360 said:
So they will make an overpriced V2 and then have plans for a IS version. Why didn't they just make the V2 have IS?
It is quite simple really. Canon will first launch the overpriced 24-70L II, and then they will launch the 24-70L II IS at an ever higher price! (Let's call it "over overpriced").

The pricetag of the IS version will then make the non IS version look like a bargain!

This strategy might seem kinda strange, but do not worry - Canonites will bend over and take it deep. Both versions will sell like hotcakes, regardless of overpricing. Just look at the 5D3 sales!

These are happy days for Canon.
 
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Ricku said:
RayValdez360 said:
So they will make an overpriced V2 and then have plans for a IS version. Why didn't they just make the V2 have IS?
It is quite simple really. Canon will first launch the overpriced 24-70L II, and then they will launch the 24-70L II IS at an ever higher price!
The pricetag of the IS version will then make the non IS version look like a bargain!

This strategy seems to have worked with both the 70-200 f/2.8 & f4. The IS versions makes the non-IS versions look like a bargain....and they probably are!

PW
 
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OR . . . it would be so unfeasibly expensive now that they really need a bulletproof mkII run to get all of the optics right before releasing a 'just with IS' upgrade.

What was the other option, charge $2300 for a mkII that ONLY had IS and could basically churn out 'as good' pictures?

My vote goes with that this was one of the 'test iterations' out there, and it just didn't have good enough IQ to go this route vs what they are releasing . . .

Or we could complain about price more. I came to do that :D but everyone else beat me to it, so I guess I have to think instead. :P
 
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I know others would like a stabilized version of this but I cannot see the use in this focal range for what I shoot. That is just my $0.02. I am sure others would so I'd be fine with two versions of this lens at two price points.
 
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Ricku said:
RayValdez360 said:
So they will make an overpriced V2 and then have plans for a IS version. Why didn't they just make the V2 have IS?
It is quite simple really. Canon will first launch the overpriced 24-70L II, and then they will launch the 24-70L II IS at an ever higher price! (Let's call it "over overpriced").

The pricetag of the IS version will then make the non IS version look like a bargain!

This strategy might seem kinda strange, but do not worry - Canonites will bend over and take it deep. Both versions will sell like hotcakes, regardless of overpricing. Just look at the 5D3 sales!

These are happy days for Canon.

The IS version wouldn't be called "24-70L II IS" as this implies that there is already an IS version out there. The first IS version would be "24-70mm f/2.8L IS USM" (no "II").

I am quite happy to not have IS. Just use a flash and/or high ISO or even a tripod. Problem solved. Good job Canon.
 
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Tamron 24-70 VC= 1000€
Canon 24-70 I = 1200€
Canon 24-70 II = 2300€

from what I gather (i do not own any of these lenses, much to the pitty), the Tamron is egual to, if not better than the Canon mkI in optical quality and is ~20% cheaper AND has VC. The Mk II is hailed to have supirior optics, but no IS and costs 2.3x the price... An IS version of MkI or MkII would be closer to 3000€ (as dilbert suggested), 3x the price of the Tamron... Seems a little overpriced!

I honestly think Canon is not in the most competative position for its standard 24-70 zooms... they are pricing themselves out of the race...

Competition is always good, any new lens from any maker is good for all of us, directly or indirectly! I say, let canon bring an IS version out, let it be stupidly overpriced, and let them learn their lesson! :)
 
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japhoto said:
Two possibilities.
1.) This was one of the lenses tested for the MkII of the 24-70L and it was just patented for the sake of being patented.
2.) Canon actually listens what people want and on top of that Tamron has put pressure on them with their stabilized lens, so they are bringing one out.
I'm willing to bet on the first option though...

The first option is most accurate.

The original patent filing date (Dec 2010) would have been made before they decided on which design option to release. As soon as they make the options/alternatives available for field testing they become public domain and you can lose the opportunity to patent the idea later. As such, all designs (5-6 as per CR original post) would have been patented at that time, to protect all designs they may release, and thats long before Tamron announced theirs.

Deciding to follow through and publish the patent indicates they want to protect their intellectual property in that design embodiment, but is no definite indicator they will ever produce one.

For now, I just want my 24-70 f/2.8L II......
 
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I've had two Tamron lenses and both broke under the riggors of professional use in less than a year. My current 24-70L, which is a good copy, has amazing build quality. It's never failed once over the last 4 years of use. It's almost bomb proof and it's performance isn't just measured in MFT charts.
If the new version can match the old one's build quality then yes it will be a winner with professional photographers. It'll be nice to have the newer coatings and improved optics. Do I need an IS equipped 24-70L? No not really...would I like one? Well, I'd want to try one out before I'd commit. There's more to a lens then optics and Image Stabilisers. Reliability is key for this particular lens.
 
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I would also gladly take IS and Internal Zoom even if the weight increased. As long as the weight didn't exceed the 70-200 2.8 IS II I wouldn't care. I was really hoping for both of these features would have been in the new 24-70 at a price tag of $2500.

For those that argue against IS being useful, then why does the EF-S 17-55 have it? Or even the new primes?
 
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Dylan777 said:
Would be AWESOME if this lens has internal zoom - like 70-200 f2.8 IS II ;)

My 2 cents: price tag will be $2999 and it be ready by 2014 - plenty of time for everyone to save $$$

If it's internal zoom all that means is it will be, ALWAYS, nearly the length of the 24-70 II out at 70mm all the time....

I could be wrong, but I think those designs sometimes require larger amounts of exotic glass too, not sure though.
 
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