Patent: Canon EF 35mm f/1.4L II

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<p><strong>Canon EF 35 f/1.4L II

</strong>A new patent for a Canon EF 35m f/1.4L II has shown it’s lovely head. <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2012/07/patent-canon-ef-35-f1-4l/" target="_blank">We’ve seen patents previously</a> and have heard various versions of the lens have been in testing for the past few years.</p>
<p><strong>Patent Publication No. 2013-195747</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Publication date 2013.9.30</li>
<li>Filing date 2012.3.21</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Example 1</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Focal length f = 14.17mm</li>
<li>Fno. 2.89</li>
<li>Half angle ω = 56.78 °</li>
<li>Image height 21.64mm</li>
<li>The overall length of the lens 133.50mm</li>
<li>BF 40.23mm</li>
<li>14 pieces in 11 groups Lens Construction</li>
<li>2 pieces of 2 aspherical surface</li>
<li>The effective diameter of the front lens 69.96mm</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Example 2</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Focal length f = 24.50mm</li>
<li>Fno. 2.80</li>
<li>Half angle ω = 41.45 °</li>
<li>Image height 21.64mm</li>
<li>The overall length of the lens 92.07mm</li>
<li>BF 38.07mm</li>
<li>8 group 9 lenses configuration</li>
<li>2 pieces of 2 aspherical surface</li>
<li>The effective diameter of the front lens 34.58mm</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Example 3</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Focal length f = 35.50mm</li>
<li>Fno. 1.45</li>
<li>Half angle ω = 31.36 °</li>
<li>Image height 21.64mm</li>
<li>The overall length of the lens 135.01mm</li>
<li>BF 38.56mm</li>
<li>11 pieces Lens Construction 9 group</li>
<li>One piece of one aspherical surface</li>
<li>The effective diameter of the front lens 49.79mm</li>
</ul>
<p>Also included in this patent are formulas for a 14mm f/2.8 and a 24 f/2.8.</p>
<p><strong>Canon EF 35 f/1.4L $1479 at <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/162614-USA/Canon_2512A002_Wide_Angle_EF_35mm.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296" target="_blank">B&H Photo</a> | <a href="ttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00009R6WY/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00009R6WY&linkCode=as2&tag=canorumo-20" target="_blank">Amazon</a></strong></p>
<p><strong>Source: [<a href="http://egami.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2013-10-12" target="_blank">EG</a>]</strong></p>
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How many patents is it now? ???

I thought (hoped) this lens was right around the corner, but then Canon files another patent. That kinda means that the lens is far away from production, doesn't it?

I hope it's not the same with the 14-24L, because I am hoping that lens is right around the corner too.

Canon Rumors said:
Also included in this patent are formulas for a 14mm f/2.8 and a 24 f/2.8.
I'm guessing the 24 f/2.8 has IS, and that we'll see that lens way ahead of the 35L II.
 
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With the new lens tech and the current standards/expectations for resolution, I have pretty high hopes for sharpness and aberration control (especially since it will have to at the very least be on par with the S35). I for one am excited.
 
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JohnDizzo15 said:
With the new lens tech and the current standards/expectations for resolution, I have pretty high hopes for sharpness and aberration control (especially since it will have to at the very least be on par with the S35). I for one am excited.
Yes it has to be at least on par with the S35. But since the 35L II price tag will be ridiculously high, it really must (or should) be notably better than the S35. I just don't see how Canon will be able to pull that off.. The S35 is pretty much optical perfection.

My guess is the 35L II will be as sharp as the S35, but 2 - 3 times more expensive.
 
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Ricku said:
How many patents is it now? ???

I thought (hoped) this lens was right around the corner, but then Canon files another patent. That kinda means that the lens is far away from production, doesn't it?

I hope it's not the same with the 14-24L, because I am hoping that lens is right around the corner too.

Canon Rumors said:
Also included in this patent are formulas for a 14mm f/2.8 and a 24 f/2.8.
I'm guessing the 24 f/2.8 has IS, and that we'll see that lens way ahead of the 35L II.

The number of patents does not mean its near production. Canon continually has computers running to try and find optical formulas that will produce a superior lens. Unfortunately, many of them are not practical to mass produce because of near impossible tolerances, for example. They get patented as long as they are good, even if there are no plans to start making them in quantity.

Once production starts, you will still see more patents, the process never stops, and you see the patent about 2 years after Canon filed it.
 
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Ricku said:
How many patents is it now? ???

I thought (hoped) this lens was right around the corner, but then Canon files another patent. That kinda means that the lens is far away from production, doesn't it?

I hope it's not the same with the 14-24L, because I am hoping that lens is right around the corner too.

Canon Rumors said:
Also included in this patent are formulas for a 14mm f/2.8 and a 24 f/2.8.
I'm guessing the 24 f/2.8 has IS, and that we'll see that lens way ahead of the 35L II.


They just recently released a 24mm 2.8 IS...
 
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Menace said:
I'm sure Canon know the market for 35 f1.4 II; they are absolutely aware of Sigma's offering too so I expect the new lens to be considerably better (built and optics) especially as it will be Expensive!

Canon doesn't to be much much better, if at all (built and optics) than 3rd party, it's sufficient that they're the original with everything that goes along with it - no incompatibilities at all even with newer cameras, in-camera lens profiles, cps support. Given that, many people will happily spend a mere €1000 more.

Also one constant advantage of Canon lenses is the af system which is bound to work better with Canon's pro 5d3/1dx system since it requires firmware lens-camera adjustment (lens groups), for the outdated 5d2/6d af it probably doesn't matter that much.
 
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Marsu42 said:
mere €1000 more.
Kind sir, please donate "mere €1000" to me ;D ... with it I shall buy the Sigma 35 f/1.4 and donate the rest to charity in your name. Jokes aside, this is an interesting replacement from Canon, because they have a competent challenger in Sigma 35mm f/1.4
 
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Mt Spokane Photography said:
Once production starts, you will still see more patents, the process never stops, and you see the patent about 2 years after Canon filed it.

That could explain that the 24/2.8 IS has been with us since last year. I'm more intrigued by the 14/2.8L, which was last updated in 2007.
 
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Rienzphotoz said:
Jokes aside, this is an interesting replacement from Canon

Reading about yet another patent (yap), it's impossible for me to let jokes aside because this is not a replacement, but just a piece of paper - looking at the stacks of patents posted on CR over time, it only means they want to prevent the competition from releasing the exact same thing for the time being.
 
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Marsu42 said:
Menace said:
I'm sure Canon know the market for 35 f1.4 II; they are absolutely aware of Sigma's offering too so I expect the new lens to be considerably better (built and optics) especially as it will be Expensive!

Canon doesn't to be much much better, if at all (built and optics) than 3rd party, it's sufficient that they're the original with everything that goes along with it - no incompatibilities at all even with newer cameras, in-camera lens profiles, cps support. Given that, many people will happily spend a mere €1000 more.

Also one constant advantage of Canon lenses is the af system which is bound to work better with Canon's pro 5d3/1dx system since it requires firmware lens-camera adjustment (lens groups), for the outdated 5d2/6d af it probably doesn't matter that much.

+1, Canon will have the advantage for pro use, and of course the 'compatibility guarantee' for those of us who don't dare to go third party. Add weather sealing and it's sure to sell well, even if that MkII would not manage to quite touch the Sigma in image quality.
 
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"+1, Canon will have the advantage for pro use, and of course the 'compatibility guarantee' for those of us who don't dare to go third party. Add weather sealing and it's sure to sell well, even if that MkII would not manage to quite touch the Sigma in image quality."

....or price. (whenever this hits the streets it will probably be offered at at least $1800, maybe higher based on recent statospheric pricing. Canon...thanks for making my Sigma look even better!!!!) I love the Canon products I have decided to purchase...but only a red-ring fanboy would buy this lens.... :o
...now where is that Art Series 50mm to slay the new Zeiss!!!! (not really for IQ ...but it could be the second best choice for a normal FF lens and have AF!).
 
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I can't help but wonder how Canon will price this. If it is priced the way Canon is going about the new lenses, I expect it to be in the range of $ 1,500 to $ 2,000 but then it will have to be substantially better than the Sigma's offering, which retails for less than $ 900.

Interesting times these, maybe Canon will be caught in a bind and the pricing will be "affordable" just because of existence of the Siggy :)
 
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