17-70 would go nicely with 70-200, 70-300 and 100-400 on either a FF or crop camera.While it's not a standard APS-C kit lens, even though it would be much better to have an RF-S 17-70mm, it would to the job in a pinch if Canon wanted to simply release an APS-C camera into the wild with no supporting RF-S lenses. It's one of the few full frame lenses that I could see fitting into both full frame and aps-c, as a kit lens for both sensor sizes. the EOS RP could use it as a sweet kit lens, and so could an APS-C RF camera.
Also, this is the second time we've seen 17-70mm in patent applications, which makes it a bit more likely it's going to happen.
I'm really surprised that Canon haven't designed a range of small and light pancake prime lenses...after all...the RF mount is an ideal Range Finder.
So far every thing launched has been in the exotic and very large category. But for many, the RF mount sits alongside their EF kit and needs to find a reason to be...so small and light is the way forwards for many. Not everyone is looking for an DSLR replacement camera.
True, but that's not a standard kit lens on any of the 000x or 00x models. The normal kit lenses are 18-55 and 18-135. In the past they have started at 17, but the 15-85 was always a premium upgrade.
That only confirms it's not an ff lens. The image height on an apsc lens is lower, but ff sensors are taller. So it will not cover the image on a FF sensor.Only in your mind.
Image height: 21.64mm
Sorry, but it only confirms you don’t understand patent nomenclature. ‘Image height’ in an optical formula patent refers to the radius of the image circle, i.e. one-half of the diagonal of the sensor. 21.64 mm x 2 = 43.3 mm, which is the diagonal of a 24 x 36 mm FF sensor. It’s a FF lens.That only confirms it's not an ff lens. The image height on an apsc lens is lower, but ff sensors are taller. So it will not cover the image on a FF sensor.
This confirms they are testing apsc lenses for a probable aspc Eos R camera.
Sorry, but it only confirms you don’t understand patent nomenclature. ‘Image height’ in an optical formula patent refers to the radius of the image circle, i.e. one-half of the diagonal of the sensor. 21.64 mm x 2 = 43.3 mm, which is the diagonal of a 24 x 36 mm FF sensor. It’s a FF lens.
15-85.I think the EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 and the EF-S 17-85mm were always a premium upgrade.
15-85.
"Premium" or not, but it's an equivalent of 24mm-... FF, which is a pretty common standard for a "normal-range" zoom these days.
I don't care what they were. There was a time when a consumer 28-80 lens was a "premium upgrade" to a kit 35-80. But the times have changed, and today a "standard" zoom without a 24mm equivalent in its zoom range cannot be called "an ideal lens".All three were premium upgrades for apsc models.
And before those existed, canon apsc users had the Ef 17-40 f4 L.
I don't care what they were. There was a time when a consumer 28-80 lens was a "premium upgrade" to a kit 35-80. But the times have changed, and today a "standard" zoom without a 24mm equivalent in its zoom range cannot be called "an ideal lens".