Set your flamethrowers to 'scorched earth', people:
https://petapixel.com/2017/07/20/canon-6d-mark-ii-dynamic-range-big-disappointment/
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https://petapixel.com/2017/07/20/canon-6d-mark-ii-dynamic-range-big-disappointment/
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Jopa said:Dynamic Range turns into Dynamic RAGE
StudentOfLight said:Meanwhile I'm enjoying my 6D and the 80D.
StudentOfLight said:Meanwhile I'm enjoying my 6D and the 80D.
neuroanatomist said:[quote author=PetaPixel]
With a competitor like Sony dominating sensor quality tests in recent years and keeping its best sensors for its own cameras, Canon may need to up its game in a big way if it hopes to stay #1 in digital camera market share, especially among serious and professional photographers. In dynamic range, at least, this new 6D Mark II was not a step in the right direction.
YuengLinger said:but at some point it makes as much sense to not engage as it does to keep saying Canon is the invulnerable, eternal market leader because they never make mistakes.
sebasan said:A lot of people are doing it.
Orangutan said:YuengLinger said:but at some point it makes as much sense to not engage as it does to keep saying Canon is the invulnerable, eternal market leader because they never make mistakes.
No one is saying this. Many of us are just stating basic facts: Canon continues to succeed in the marketplace. We can speculate as to why, but we know that falling behind in low-ISO DR has not hurt them at all. In the end, DSLRs are unitary products, you can't select which features you want. You buy it or you don't buy it; ranting about it does nothing. I have yet to decide whether I'll buy this body.
monkey44 said:I believe Canon keeps its market share because of its lenses, and most folks want to buy the same camera and lens. How many want to go thru the hassle of buying one camera brand and a different lens, and then hope it is compatible on all levels ... Not everyone is tech smart enough to modify or manipulate camera and lens tech.
The majority of buyers are not pros, they are Jon and Jean Public ... they want a camera and lens that comes with no hassles, fits without adapters, and shoots memories. And many people today buy a walkaround lens and a telephoto lens, at least.
Aglet said:I suspect a few more small numbers of users would have drifted to ABC if Canon did not bring out the 5d4 and 80d when they did. Or not improve the noise character of the 7D2
monkey44 said:...The majority of buyers are not pros, they are Jon and Jean Public ... they want a camera and lens that comes with no hassles, fits without adapters, and shoots memories...
privatebydesign said:Or download the files and process them optimally and see how good or bad it actually is. No, why would we do that when we can spend so much time shouting at each other?
Anyway, I know half of you will pull this to pieces but....
1st shot. So here is a crop of the 100iso shot from the 6D MkII vs the D750 both lifted 5 stops, and it's link.
https://www.dpreview.com/articles/3416153698/canon-eos-6d-mark-ii-dynamic-range
2nd shot. I downloaded the 6D MkII file and processed it close to optimally and this is the result. I took five minutes to do this, given a few hours I could do better and work out profiles for each iso and lift amount that could be saved as presets in LR.
You cannot apply the same 'standard' settings to different cameras and say look at the differences. You have to process each file optimally!
When you do you get very different results. When will people stop eating this sh!t up?
Aglet said:So the points I'm trying to make are:
- if you optimize the processing for Canon and an ABC body... does the gap in final IQ at least narrow enough to make it worth the effort?
- I don't even want to spend 5 seconds in post if I can avoid it and I do that by starting with a cleaner file
privatebydesign said:Or download the files and process them optimally and see how good or bad it actually is. No, why would we do that when we can spend so much time shouting at each other?
Anyway, I know half of you will pull this to pieces but....
1st shot. So here is a crop of the 100iso shot from the 6D MkII vs the D750 both lifted 5 stops, and it's link.
https://www.dpreview.com/articles/3416153698/canon-eos-6d-mark-ii-dynamic-range
2nd shot. I downloaded the 6D MkII file and processed it close to optimally and this is the result. I took five minutes to do this, given a few hours I could do better and work out profiles for each iso and lift amount that could be saved as presets in LR.
You cannot apply the same 'standard' settings to different cameras and say look at the differences. You have to process each file optimally!
When you do you get very different results. When will people stop eating this sh!t up?