Poll: D800 vs. 5D2. Where did your money go?

What did you do with your money?

  • Sell your Canon gear and buy a D800 (2012-current)

    Votes: 2 4.4%
  • Keep your Canon gear and buy a D800 (2012-current)

    Votes: 3 6.7%
  • Sell your Nikon gear and buy a 5D2 (2008-2011)

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • Keep your Nikon gear and buy a 5D2 (2008-2011)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Take great pictures without obsessing over specs.

    Votes: 39 86.7%

  • Total voters
    45
  • Poll closed .
I understand the OP wants to know how many of us jumped ship when "superior technology" became available from the other brand, and chose for comparison the 5D2 and the D800. I also understand it is his opinion that the D800 is superior to Canon's products available today as the 5D2 was to Nikon's at the time; otherwise, a comparison would make no sense.
So, I believe the question he wants answered here is how likely we (CR folks, big bias) are to jump ship when competition is clearly better, or if we prefer to stick to what we already have anyway.
(It seems likely to me people will disagree with the cameras chosen for such comparison, though.)
Cheers,
Daniel
 
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Aglet said:
Had an early 5D2, got some good shots with it but its low ISO files had pattern noise in midtones and shadows were even worse if pushed.

My first Nikon was a D5100 and the low ISO raw files from it were vastly cleaner.
D800 came out and I was on the order list for it and the e model after I tested some raw files from it.
Both of those cameras thoroughly blow away any Canon for clean low ISO work.
The 5d2 was promptly trash-binned along with most L lenses I had for it.
7D & a 60D went next for the same reason.

Canon hasn't had a penny from me in years, Nikon, then Pentax and now Fuji (and maybe even Olympus) get all my $ now.
They're more satisfying tools for when I want that kind of image quality.

I haven't experienced any lack of adequate glass to put on them either.

Aglet, after a Post like this, why in the world would you bother Posting 730 times on a Canon Camera Gear forum, I'm curious.

I purchased the Nikon D5100 as a first Camera for my youngest son, at the same time I owned the 5DMK II & 1DMK IV, I'm again confused how you couldn't get a decent Image out of the 5DMK II, but could out of the D5100, not to say the D5100 isn't a decent little Camera, it is, but better then the 5DMK II ?? I think you may have left a reasonable amount of common sense behind when making that statement, or perhaps you just didn't like the colour of the 5DMK II and preferred the colour of the D5100 ?? that would make sense, sort of.

And you "Trash Binned" Canon L Lenses ?? Ummmm, I think that borders on complete rubbish as well.

Maybe Nuero has it right, you just monitor CR so you can vent on all that Canon Rubbish Camera Bodies & L Lenses, you might try needle point as a new hobby, maybe more your sort of thing.

I'm sure Olympus are just so excited that at some point when your tired of Nikon, Fuji & Pentax (after all Canon are trash binned & done), it'll be their turn for some those Aglet dollars.
 
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eml58 said:
Aglet said:
Had an early 5D2, got some good shots with it but its low ISO files had pattern noise in midtones and shadows were even worse if pushed.

My first Nikon was a D5100 and the low ISO raw files from it were vastly cleaner.
D800 came out and I was on the order list for it and the e model after I tested some raw files from it.
Both of those cameras thoroughly blow away any Canon for clean low ISO work.
The 5d2 was promptly trash-binned along with most L lenses I had for it.
7D & a 60D went next for the same reason.

Canon hasn't had a penny from me in years, Nikon, then Pentax and now Fuji (and maybe even Olympus) get all my $ now.
They're more satisfying tools for when I want that kind of image quality.

I haven't experienced any lack of adequate glass to put on them either.

Aglet, after a Post like this, why in the world would you bother Posting 730 times on a Canon Camera Gear forum, I'm curious.

I purchased the Nikon D5100 as a first Camera for my youngest son, at the same time I owned the 5DMK II & 1DMK IV, I'm again confused how you couldn't get a decent Image out of the 5DMK II, but could out of the D5100, not to say the D5100 isn't a decent little Camera, it is, but better then the 5DMK II ?? I think you may have left a reasonable amount of common sense behind when making that statement, or perhaps you just didn't like the colour of the 5DMK II and preferred the colour of the D5100 ?? that would make sense, sort of.

And you "Trash Binned" Canon L Lenses ?? Ummmm, I think that borders on complete rubbish as well.

Maybe Nuero has it right, you just monitor CR so you can vent on all that Canon Rubbish Camera Bodies & L Lenses, you might try needle point as a new hobby, maybe more your sort of thing.

I'm sure Olympus are just so excited that at some point when your tired of Nikon, Fuji & Pentax (after all Canon are trash binned & done), it'll be their turn for some those Aglet dollars.

Aglet is the person who finds this to be a difficult exposure. He believes he can better compute exposure than the meter even for a low dynamic range image like this.
 
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privatebydesign said:
Aglet is the person who finds this to be a difficult exposure. He believes he can better compute exposure than the meter even for a low dynamic range image like this.

You gotta be kidding ;D

To be fair though, if you really haven't a clue what you're doing there are cameras out there that are probably more forgiving than the current Canons.

Not sure a Nikon would have brought those people forward from wall though. Perhaps a Pentax would ;)
 
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I think a better camera for comparison would be D7100? Or even D600? Now don't flame me off just because I'm suggesting these cameras are vastly superior over the Canon equivalents: D7000 came out at a time to rival 60D, and it is well known that Canon kind of screwed that up while D7000 was arguably one of the best, if not the best cheap APS-C out there. In terms of D600, put it this way, without the oil issue, it is amazing. One of the things about Canon is that the company screws up customers with its number of AF points and f.p.s. and stuff like that. I'm using a 6D right now, so please don't say that I'm a troll, but honestly I will say 6D definitely falls behind as a DSLR for action compared to D600, or even as a camera in general. The thing 6D is better would be in terms of center point and better ISO performance. This doesn't take away that D600 is more feature packed (I don't consider GPS and WIFI as awesome stuff compared to solid features like speed and accuracy). I guess that's the point of the thread: if the better camera you desire happens to fall in the rivaling companies arsenal, will you get it? Like the 14-24mm F2.8 Nikkor lens? No converters, we all know that's not going to be as good.
 
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Just to be fair, I'm going to throw out a familiar situation: when 1DX was out, how many of you converted from Nikon to Canon? Everyone knows that 1DX is a legend now, so it's not a shame to publicly declare that it is better than D4, so I guess that's the kind of thing this thread is looking for? i.e. if the niche of your desired camera is led by a different company, are you willing to invest in it? ;D
 
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Aglet said:
It is mere fact, not trolling. It's only inflammatory if you're a narrow-minded fanboy.
My post is within the OP's question and response line.

Yes your first post was exactly what I was looking for.
My intention of this thread was to help quantify how many people actually view technical advancement as a critical aspect of their photography. I think that's been accomplished to a certain degree.
 
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to the D800 and back again.

I had 2 5D2's and bought the 5D3, sold one 5D2, then Nikon released the D800. I print large (40x60 canvas) and the extra resolution of the Nikon along with reviews and non-banding shadows, was enough to get me to buy one. I sold my remaining 5D2 and bought 4 Nikon lenses 14-24, 105mm macro, 50mm 1.8, 28-300IS. Added a Zeiss 21mm ZF.2 2.8 with and adapter so I could also use it on my 5D3.

Yes, Nikon shadow noise was better when pushing it several stops, but it had a purple tint (easily removed by lowering saturation), but auto focus was unreliable, sometimes right on, other times just a little off. No amount of lens micro adjustments helped. Manual focusing while zoomed in on the LCD was not nearly as good as my 5D3. I got many good shots with it, but after a year of use, I sold off all my Nikon gear (kept the Zeiss) and bought the 6D as a backup.

Still waiting for Canon to come out with a higher megapixel body, then Sony released the A7r which works with all my canon lenses (with metabones adapter). I bought one and have been very happy with it for manual focus landscape and macro work. The EVF is awesome for manual focusing, because you can zoom in 14x and tweak in that last bit of crispness. Canon! Copy what Sony did in that regard. The only downside, is if you have review on, the viewfinder is unavailable to focus the next shot until the review time is over. I feel Canon 5D3 low light is better than the Sony, but the Sony does not show banding in the shadows when pushed. It is grainier though. Canon will now have to beat Sony (not just meet) for me to cut loose with the dough for their new camera (whenever it arrives). In the meantime I am happy with my 5D3 and the 6d is not bad either.
 
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Aglet said:
It is mere fact, not trolling. It's only inflammatory if you're a narrow-minded fanboy.
My post is within the OP's question and response line.

All my DIGIC 4 SLRs sucked for fixed pattern and read noise...

images coming out from a camera holding on your hands are craps, including nikon. show people in this forum a link to your website (used to see it as your signature) so that they can see all crap images...

[edit] ah hah... remember it now. your business website is http://a2bart.com/
[question] your learning how to capture images started from point A and stopped at point B? not enough skills go further in the scale of alphabet? ;)

looks, this lady (canon 5d mark ii) has not been used camera as long as you and she comes up with these images. mind to show me what you have gotten and improved lol....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/75571860@N06/with/10949174803/
 
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ishdakuteb said:
well... i am receiving a pm from aglet due to my previous post. below is the whole content and i personally do not really mind that i am being banned from the site if the admin feels that that is the right thing to do. we are here to share what i can capture with canon gears, help each other to solve problems that they have encountered with canon gears, etc... not to trash...

however, if most of main people in this post, such as admin, neuro, rlphoto, privatebydesign, etc think that photographs taken by you (posted on http://www.a2bart.com) are outstanding, i will quit posting from this forum, do not need to request for banding.

below is the original message that i have received from Aglet.

Aglet said:
You are behaving very childishly (understatement) as you constantly disparage and try to embarrass me.

You are annoying and if you continue I'll request you be banned from the site.
You've provided plenty of supporting evidence for it with your posts.

Grow up and-or go away.

regards.

digic 4 is suck... might be the case for you, but for me it is somewhat better than digic 2 from my canon 30d. below is one of my snapshot that i exposed for color while waiting for my wife at a shoppin' place (technically, it is wrong in using aperture but who care since i am just want the color of the image) while trying to study composing for color after messing around with light for a while...

finally, here is an image that i snapped with my digic 4 (canon 7d)

If you think those PMs are intense, you should see some of the ones between PBD and myself. In the end, opinions are opinions and what holds merit is the end product, the photos.
 
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web site's a (boring part of the) hobby and a tax write-off as long as it's there.
moved a pair of 24x36" set of canvas prints today to a commercial customer today, pays for my next Fuji. ;)
Hopefully they'll spring for a few more for their client meeting room so I can buy some X-glass too.
 
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