Poll: Most wanted new features for 5D Mark IV
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I would like them to keep the MP count either as it is or not higher than 24 MP, as the 5Ds are considered allrounders. Therefore I definitely would like to see a slightly enhanced IQ above ISO 25k. 1/2 or 3/4 stop better than my 5D3. Is that feasable? Even at 24 MP? Hope so. ;-)
Or will they trump up the 5D and make the 6DII the new lower MP cam?
Or will they trump up the 5D and make the 6DII the new lower MP cam?
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davidcl0nel
Canon R5, 17 TSE, RF35+85 IS, RF70-200 4 IS, EF135
- Other focusscreens
- Better display resolution, 1920x1080 minimum (!)
- Fokus peaking/zebras - lots of stuff from MagicLantern builtin (intervalometer and so on)
- WLAN, not for pictures, for control with DSLR controller app and so on
- Maybe a little bit lighter (as 5D2), size is ok. 60D and 6D is "too" small (ringfinger not included), so I used a battery grip on 60D, which I never missed on my 5D3.
- On or two additional buttons... the custom button is used for 99% of the users for switching AF modes... maybe I want another one?
- One or more button more on the top, and get rid of the double function with both wheels. I often switch the wrong wheel after pressing the ISO button, so I change the flash exposure compensation... Double function for White balance and measuring type is ok...
- A manual focus switch and stabilisation switch on body, so I can select this in custom programme C1/C2/C3... I often shoot at night, and I always have to switch both on the lens off (if available of course), but it would be easier, to get it only by using C1...
- I have no problems with megapixel or DR, maybe they could enhance this a little bit, but the features above would be more interesting...
Edit: And I want ISO 25, ISO 10 more than ISO25600++ (as possible base ISO, not shifted like ISO50 yet)
- Better display resolution, 1920x1080 minimum (!)
- Fokus peaking/zebras - lots of stuff from MagicLantern builtin (intervalometer and so on)
- WLAN, not for pictures, for control with DSLR controller app and so on
- Maybe a little bit lighter (as 5D2), size is ok. 60D and 6D is "too" small (ringfinger not included), so I used a battery grip on 60D, which I never missed on my 5D3.
- On or two additional buttons... the custom button is used for 99% of the users for switching AF modes... maybe I want another one?
- One or more button more on the top, and get rid of the double function with both wheels. I often switch the wrong wheel after pressing the ISO button, so I change the flash exposure compensation... Double function for White balance and measuring type is ok...
- A manual focus switch and stabilisation switch on body, so I can select this in custom programme C1/C2/C3... I often shoot at night, and I always have to switch both on the lens off (if available of course), but it would be easier, to get it only by using C1...
- I have no problems with megapixel or DR, maybe they could enhance this a little bit, but the features above would be more interesting...
Edit: And I want ISO 25, ISO 10 more than ISO25600++ (as possible base ISO, not shifted like ISO50 yet)
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Sabaki said:
Yes...What's above and I don't need to see 40mp.(don't want to deal with post production & storing the files).
24mMP would be fine...just give me a faster frame rate and bigger buffer.
Oh..and in this market...I WANT TO SEE A LOWER PRICE than what the 5D III intro'ed at.
It's a tough market out there Canon...you need to get real.
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I know I'm in the minority on this, but I'd rather have a more focused picture taking camera. I think they've gotten away from it and focused on video too much. Do what Sony did and make different focused versions for those that want them.
I want a studio body with fast shutter/flash sync(not HSS), low iso, high DR, high megapixel
EDIT: Or add those things to a body with 4k video
I want a studio body with fast shutter/flash sync(not HSS), low iso, high DR, high megapixel
EDIT: Or add those things to a body with 4k video
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For me it either needs to be
- 4k video and i believe some of those other options will fall in line with that(fast fps, video specific features, sharper video, etc).
- High Megapixel
I honestly don't think they can avoid these two topics any longer in a under $10k body.
My forecast for whats going to happen?
The 5d is an everybody camera-They can put 4k in it and not effect any wedding shooters, event, etc. It would just increase all the specs to handle the data and will benefit everyone even on the shooting side. A camera that can handle more data faster is a plus for all teams.
They will create a separate specialist camera that will specifically be a high MP line. I think there are people who genuinely do not want that many megapixels. This fits the needs of landscape, studio. Video is hard to tell on this one.
- 4k video and i believe some of those other options will fall in line with that(fast fps, video specific features, sharper video, etc).
- High Megapixel
I honestly don't think they can avoid these two topics any longer in a under $10k body.
My forecast for whats going to happen?
The 5d is an everybody camera-They can put 4k in it and not effect any wedding shooters, event, etc. It would just increase all the specs to handle the data and will benefit everyone even on the shooting side. A camera that can handle more data faster is a plus for all teams.
They will create a separate specialist camera that will specifically be a high MP line. I think there are people who genuinely do not want that many megapixels. This fits the needs of landscape, studio. Video is hard to tell on this one.
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An improvement in the sensors Dynamic Range would be #1 on my wish list! Ideally, I'd like to see around 30MP of resolution. I think it's a given that the 5D Mark IV will have the same improved autofocus system as the 7D Mark II.
A few items that are important to me for the 5D Mark IV, but weren't on the poll:
* Illuminated back buttons for low light shooting (like the Nikon D4)
* Improve the red illuminated autofocus points in the view finder, so they light up in all autofocus modes, and the autofocus points are translucent, but are very easy to see when they light up (like the Nikon D4)
* Dual Compact Flash memory card slots...this is as good of a time as any to move to the new CFast 2.0 compact flash cards. Whichever memory card format Canon decides to use, I just hope Canon uses the same memory card format for both the new 1DX Mark II and the Canon 5D Mark IV, so those of us who own both cameras don't have to carry different types of memory cards with us all the time.
I'd like to see an increase to 8 fps, but I think the fps and buffer go hand in hand, so there is no point in increasing fps, if the camera doesn't have a healthy buffer of at least 35 full size RAW files before the buffer fills. If they can't give us a buffer of at least 35 full RAW file shots with more fps, then I'd rather they just keep it at 6 fps and increase the buffers capacity.
Cost is only an issue in the absence of value, so if Canon can give me these improvements, then I'm a buyer as long is the price reasonable, which to me would be under $4,000.
A few items that are important to me for the 5D Mark IV, but weren't on the poll:
* Illuminated back buttons for low light shooting (like the Nikon D4)
* Improve the red illuminated autofocus points in the view finder, so they light up in all autofocus modes, and the autofocus points are translucent, but are very easy to see when they light up (like the Nikon D4)
* Dual Compact Flash memory card slots...this is as good of a time as any to move to the new CFast 2.0 compact flash cards. Whichever memory card format Canon decides to use, I just hope Canon uses the same memory card format for both the new 1DX Mark II and the Canon 5D Mark IV, so those of us who own both cameras don't have to carry different types of memory cards with us all the time.
I'd like to see an increase to 8 fps, but I think the fps and buffer go hand in hand, so there is no point in increasing fps, if the camera doesn't have a healthy buffer of at least 35 full size RAW files before the buffer fills. If they can't give us a buffer of at least 35 full RAW file shots with more fps, then I'd rather they just keep it at 6 fps and increase the buffers capacity.
Cost is only an issue in the absence of value, so if Canon can give me these improvements, then I'm a buyer as long is the price reasonable, which to me would be under $4,000.
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I have almost given up Canon for video (not talking about the cinema line), it does not help much to include 4k, it must be way sharper with more detail. Now it feels just stupid to shoot video without a EVF.
From Canon, I want a high megapixel camera with high DR.
However itś not so important maybe as I will buy a Sony A7r (ii) if they fail and use a metabone adapter for landscapes. For normal pictures, there is not so much need for 40 mega pixels-
You know, as I got the A7s - the 12 MP seems very nice, unless you print large print or crop a lot. But the main use is video.
For action and wildlife I have the 1Dx.
I don´t believe anymore to just a have one camera for all needs - unfortunately.
From Canon, I want a high megapixel camera with high DR.
However itś not so important maybe as I will buy a Sony A7r (ii) if they fail and use a metabone adapter for landscapes. For normal pictures, there is not so much need for 40 mega pixels-
You know, as I got the A7s - the 12 MP seems very nice, unless you print large print or crop a lot. But the main use is video.
For action and wildlife I have the 1Dx.
I don´t believe anymore to just a have one camera for all needs - unfortunately.
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New, important features:
- full size still picture possibility during video recording
(if I remember well, the Samsung can made it four years (?) ago on the Photokina expo in pocket size camera, the expensive DSLR-s with uber-speed Digic X processor why don't can?)
- video "shutter" sync. signal output
- quick, reliable remotable video start-stop for synchronize many of cameras (now it is OK with cable remote, but delayed or not working well with wireless trigger)
- full size still picture possibility during video recording
(if I remember well, the Samsung can made it four years (?) ago on the Photokina expo in pocket size camera, the expensive DSLR-s with uber-speed Digic X processor why don't can?)
- video "shutter" sync. signal output
- quick, reliable remotable video start-stop for synchronize many of cameras (now it is OK with cable remote, but delayed or not working well with wireless trigger)
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