POLL: The new 50mm will be...

The upcoming 50mm lens will be...

  • ... replacement of the f2.5 compact macro (1987)

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Marsu42

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At last, Canon is rumored to release a 50mm lens - could it be true? Cast your vote here and predict what max. open aperture it'll have and/or what legacy lens it will replace (if any)!

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Oh man... let's hope and vote.
Although this voting will not help a lot in what Canon dev dep already made.

I hope for a more than decent 50 mm with f/1.4 or at least f/1.8 that will continue the lineup of the new non-L primes (24, 28, 35) with or without IS but please
- with fast accurate AF (ring USM)
- and IQ comparable to or better than the new non-L primes


But if I had to choose between F/2 with IS and f/1.4 without I'D go for the aperture.
 
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NancyP said:
I am going for an 50mm f/2.0 IS, to match the other compact primes with IS. If it is good, and light, I could go for buying this.

Same here, to round out my little collection of primes (35/2 IS -- 50/2 IS -- 100/2.8L IS macro.

I wouldn't mind too much if it turned out to be a replacement for the 50/2.5 macro (which I own, and would replace), but that would probably be an f/2.8. I'd rather have the wider max aperture and skip the macro function, since I have the 100L (and might keep the 50/2.5 macro).
 
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Tinky said:
I reckon the 1.4. If Sigma, zeiss, samyang all see money in it then I'm sure Canon will.

You could argue the exact opposite as the market so crowded by external and internal competition.

Their (non-)solution might be a) to keep delaying a new 50mm as their existing lenses keep selling for one reason or another or b) offer something the others don't have, namely IS. Canon isn't here to have a pleasant lens lineup in a museum gallery, but to make money after all.
 
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i would agree but forthe other player undercutting canon... yongnuo.

Canon need a new 50mm for mortals. Sigma are top end money, zeiss, forget it money, samyang won't suit everybody. canon need a compelling reason for the lower market guys to buy, at the moment it's just about price, but the 1.8 and the 1.4 are tired. And yongnuo is winning the price battle.

Theres still a chunk of folk that everybody is missing.
 
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Marsu42 said:
Tinky said:
I reckon the 1.4. If Sigma, zeiss, samyang all see money in it then I'm sure Canon will.

You could argue the exact opposite as the market so crowded by external and internal competition.

Their (non-)solution might be a) to keep delaying a new 50mm as their existing lenses keep selling for one reason or another or b) offer something the others don't have, namely IS. Canon isn't here to have a pleasant lens lineup in a museum gallery, but to make money after all.
Or C) just make a 50 mm 1.4 for $400ish with updated Ring USM and updated optics. I'd buy one. Nikon has one. No retrofocus design, just fast light and small.
 
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Why no love for a new f1.0 L? I would gladly pay 3k for that. As long as it's fantastic at 1.4 across the frame and really usable at f1.0.

But, if it's indeed a 1500 usd version of the 1.4 that matches the Sigma Art and with Canon AF , I'm still in!
 
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Viggo said:
Why no love for a new f1.0 L?

I wouldn't. You don't gain that much light on digital and (next to the prohibitive price) carrying around a heavy, bulky lens that has a depth of field of nearly nothing doesn't appeal to me for what I do. You can get a pleasant bokeh with f1.4 or slower alright on this focal length if it's a good design.

RLPhoto said:
make a 50 mm 1.4 for $400ish with updated Ring USM and updated optics. I'd buy one. Nikon has one. No retrofocus design, just fast light and small.

Actually I'd buy one, too, if the price is very reasonable. But as this lens is so obvious I'm sure Canon has gone into this by detail since 1993 and came to the conclusion that it's not profitable enough for them to release a good f1.4 lens that would threaten their f1.2 premium L.
 
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Marsu42 said:
RLPhoto said:
make a 50 mm 1.4 for $400ish with updated Ring USM and updated optics. I'd buy one. Nikon has one. No retrofocus design, just fast light and small.

Actually I'd buy one, too - but as this lens is so obvious I'm sure Canon has gone into this by detail since 1993 and came to the conclusion that it's not profitable enough for them to release a good f1.4 lens that would threaten their f1.2 premium L.
The 1.2L was premium back when it was released and in a way, 1.2 still is. With the otus, sigma 50A, and other decent 1.4s it doesn't look so great in pure test chart mode, but still has that look. I paid for the 1.2 and for its very nice bokeh but used it to fund another system.

Hence back to square1, which 50mm to buy? Canon doesn't make a good one sub 1200$, and hence won't get my money until they do. I'll be looking to Third parties for a 50mm, which I'm sure they've noticed others doing the same.
 
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Marsu42 said:
Viggo said:
Why no love for a new f1.0 L?

I wouldn't. You don't gain that much light on digital and (next to the prohibitive price) carrying around a heavy, bulky lens that has a depth of field of nearly nothing doesn't appeal to me for what I do. You can get a pleasant bokeh with f1.4 or slower alright on this focal length if it's a good design.

RLPhoto said:
make a 50 mm 1.4 for $400ish with updated Ring USM and updated optics. I'd buy one. Nikon has one. No retrofocus design, just fast light and small.

Actually I'd buy one, too, if the price is very reasonable. But as this lens is so obvious I'm sure Canon has gone into this by detail since 1993 and came to the conclusion that it's not profitable enough for them to release a good f1.4 lens that would threaten their f1.2 premium L.

It's not about light gathering, it's about dof. And carrying around a heavy bulky thin
Dof lens? I bring the 200 L everywhere, so no issue for
Me :D
 
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RLPhoto said:
Hence back to square1, which 50mm to buy? Canon doesn't make a good one sub 1200$, and hence won't get my money until they do. I'll be looking to Third parties for a 50mm, which I'm sure they've noticed others doing the same.

Indeed... and this tells you how much of a stellar profit margin their old 50/1.4 or the premium-priced 50/1.2 obviously have. Still, as everybody and their cat seems to be raving about the Canon "system", it's really about time they do something about this or the loss of credibility might outweigh the short-term monetary profits.
 
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Marsu42 said:
RLPhoto said:
Hence back to square1, which 50mm to buy? Canon doesn't make a good one sub 1200$, and hence won't get my money until they do. I'll be looking to Third parties for a 50mm, which I'm sure they've noticed others doing the same.

Indeed... and this tells you how much of a stellar profit margin their old 50/1.4 or the premium-priced 50/1.2 obviously have. Still, as everybody and their cat seems to be raving about the Canon "system", it's really about time they do something about this or the loss of credibility might outweigh the short-term monetary profits.

Only two 50's are of any interest to me, the Otus and the 50 Art, and neither has AF, but they have the IQ, so that leaves no 50 worth buying. I think a new ef 50 update of the existing 1.4 will be wildly popular. Question is if they will cripple it to still sell the 50 L, or if they are going after the 50 Art with it.
 
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Viggo said:
Question is if they will cripple it to still sell the 50 L, or if they are going after the 50 Art with it.

If they design a new f/1.4 for sharpness, it won't compete with the 50L, neither in the price, nor in the IQ.

The 50L is built specifically for superior bokeh and remains a challenging, not to mention a specialist lens to use.
 
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Rahul said:
Viggo said:
Question is if they will cripple it to still sell the 50 L, or if they are going after the 50 Art with it.

If they design a new f/1.4 for sharpness, it won't compete with the 50L, neither in the price, nor in the IQ.

The 50L is built specifically for superior bokeh and remains a challenging, not to mention a specialist lens to use.

yes, yes, but in real life, people buy it to use it, and find it can't be used off center wide open, and sell it because it's a big disappointment. I have owned 4, and I have regretted every time, even if I know what it's like, lol. I can't count how many "barely tested indoors"- 50 L's I have seen sold used.
 
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