Possible Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Spec Talk [CR2]
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Robert Welch said:
Yeah, sounds like they might be using the 1DX sensor in the test mule, or at least in some of the test mules. Might be using a proven workhorse sensor to test other aspects of the camera, while other test bodies have what might be the new sensor.
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pixel8foto said:
There already IS a 1Dx, which is likely where this sensor is from. They don't need 2
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The rumor does clearly state this is a test camera. But with an announcement coming in the fall - you'd think Canon has the specs 99% set.
There is NO WAY that Canon will decrease megapixel count. Megapixels can only go up, never down as that is difficult for marketing to overcome. They could only go down by creating a new camera on a different line for a special purpose. Otherwise, for MP to go down, the specs would have to be incredible. 1DX type specs. Canon isn't going to hand down the 1DX sensor and shutter to the 5D line. I don't remember a 2nd tier pro camera inheriting the previous generation flagship specs. The flagship models keep certain strengths for longer.
My prediction remains the same, around 24MP
If their sensor technology has improved, then they can still get one more stop improvement from it, with a native 51K ISO.
The FPS is also way too high. Expected FPS would be anywhere from 7-8. My prediction is 8. 10 is too high...gets too close to 1D series. Those who want high FPS and FF would be able to avoid spending $6K on a 1D series. That's not how Canon does things.
4K sounds right.
61 or 65 point all cross type AF sounds right. Curious about the number of dual-cross points...
There is NO WAY that Canon will decrease megapixel count. Megapixels can only go up, never down as that is difficult for marketing to overcome. They could only go down by creating a new camera on a different line for a special purpose. Otherwise, for MP to go down, the specs would have to be incredible. 1DX type specs. Canon isn't going to hand down the 1DX sensor and shutter to the 5D line. I don't remember a 2nd tier pro camera inheriting the previous generation flagship specs. The flagship models keep certain strengths for longer.
My prediction remains the same, around 24MP
If their sensor technology has improved, then they can still get one more stop improvement from it, with a native 51K ISO.
The FPS is also way too high. Expected FPS would be anywhere from 7-8. My prediction is 8. 10 is too high...gets too close to 1D series. Those who want high FPS and FF would be able to avoid spending $6K on a 1D series. That's not how Canon does things.
4K sounds right.
61 or 65 point all cross type AF sounds right. Curious about the number of dual-cross points...
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K said:
You mean like the a7s? Did that camera not make waves, even though its pixel count was way down over the original a7 cameras?
There is a reason the pixel count went down.
Remember, Canon are a follower, not a leader. Sony showed that there is a market for such a camera, now Canon will follow because they are too timid to lead.
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Canon would have to call it something other than the Mark IV if MP went down.
Otherwise, people would say Canon is regressing.
We know the difference, most others will too - but the criticism of decreased resolution cannot be overcome. The expectation is to increase resolution AND get more ISO and DR.
Very different if you release a specialty camera instead that is low-MP intentionally for some other benefit like low-light.
Otherwise, people would say Canon is regressing.
We know the difference, most others will too - but the criticism of decreased resolution cannot be overcome. The expectation is to increase resolution AND get more ISO and DR.
Very different if you release a specialty camera instead that is low-MP intentionally for some other benefit like low-light.
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I don't believe in getting worked up about detailed specifications in a camera that might be a year away from being released.
It's more productive and enlightening to look at the trends and patterns the rumored specs reveal and to treat them as ballpark estimates.
This sounds as though Canon is taking many of the features of the 1Dx and migrating them down the line to the 5D. That's consistent with past practices.
Canon has just released two niche market 5Ds for those desiring high megapixel count and low ISO performance. It makes perfect sense to tweak the existing 5DIII to focus on users who want high ISO performance, speed and improved autofocus – which I suspect are the three main drivers for most 5DIII users.
Will it be 18 mp? Maybe, but I look at that as a range – likely to be between 18 and 24 based on balancing the best ISO performance against megapixel count.
I doubt seriously that it will have two CF slots. The 5Ds and 7Ds are sister cameras and I expect it to have a CF and a SD slot, both matched to the standards available at the time of development (development NOT release), but backwards compatible.
Aside from the card slot, nothing in these specs would suggest the camera is not suitable as the general purpose workhorse that has made the 5D series so popular.
It's more productive and enlightening to look at the trends and patterns the rumored specs reveal and to treat them as ballpark estimates.
This sounds as though Canon is taking many of the features of the 1Dx and migrating them down the line to the 5D. That's consistent with past practices.
Canon has just released two niche market 5Ds for those desiring high megapixel count and low ISO performance. It makes perfect sense to tweak the existing 5DIII to focus on users who want high ISO performance, speed and improved autofocus – which I suspect are the three main drivers for most 5DIII users.
Will it be 18 mp? Maybe, but I look at that as a range – likely to be between 18 and 24 based on balancing the best ISO performance against megapixel count.
I doubt seriously that it will have two CF slots. The 5Ds and 7Ds are sister cameras and I expect it to have a CF and a SD slot, both matched to the standards available at the time of development (development NOT release), but backwards compatible.
Aside from the card slot, nothing in these specs would suggest the camera is not suitable as the general purpose workhorse that has made the 5D series so popular.
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This may - or may not - be a test body connected to reality.
But it sure as hell has nothing to do with the "5DIV" as its nothing like a 5D/5DII/5DIII successor camera. Canon would never kill the 5Dx marketing streak with a side act like this rumor.
But it sure as hell has nothing to do with the "5DIV" as its nothing like a 5D/5DII/5DIII successor camera. Canon would never kill the 5Dx marketing streak with a side act like this rumor.
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I find it sort of silly they want to name it the 5D X.
I mean seriously, if they're going with roman numerals, keep going. If you jump to X, it's just like the 1 series, where's 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9? What's going to happen when they come out with a 5D X successor?
There isn't a huge level of improvement, instead it's simply what the market demands. And they better include focus peaking like for the EOS M3.
At any rate, with the frequency of cameras they keep coming out with, they should do what car manufacturers or Apple has done with their laptops. State a model line and state the release year and let Wikipedia delineate if the body is the 4 or 5th in that specific line.
I mean seriously, if they're going with roman numerals, keep going. If you jump to X, it's just like the 1 series, where's 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9? What's going to happen when they come out with a 5D X successor?
There isn't a huge level of improvement, instead it's simply what the market demands. And they better include focus peaking like for the EOS M3.
At any rate, with the frequency of cameras they keep coming out with, they should do what car manufacturers or Apple has done with their laptops. State a model line and state the release year and let Wikipedia delineate if the body is the 4 or 5th in that specific line.
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Lee Jay said:
2) Throw a new card reader in for $30
3) I don't see a feature in that spec that justifies buying new cards and card reader. SD cards are sufficient for 4K video, and I'm plenty happy with the 5DmkIII's fps.
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ISO 100-204,800
Who can tell me why one should use an ISO of 204,800???
These specs does not seem very logic compared what you can get now.
Who can tell me why one should use an ISO of 204,800???
These specs does not seem very logic compared what you can get now.
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I would have thought it would been called the 5D V since it is 5th 5D model. Like the 1V film camera.
Canon seems to like to use "V" and "X" in the model names to denote longevity and significant model.
BTW, the 1V was a great camera.
Canon seems to like to use "V" and "X" in the model names to denote longevity and significant model.
BTW, the 1V was a great camera.
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Tugela said:
I think he is saying that Canon isnt going to decrease the MP count for a general purpose 5Div. I agree with him, in that case. Should this camera end up being a low light version, then the specs make sense. And in that case, id also expect to see a 20-something MP 5d, in addition.
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