Real video samples from 5d Mark iii?

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I have to say that these videos are underwhelming. Having said that, I'm not pre-judging the 5D Mark III by them. I have no real information about the conditions of these videos or what they would have looked like with another camera.

I know what I don't see: moire. That's good. On one of the D800 videos, I seemed to see some moire, which would concern me if I had pre-ordered one.

I have a 5D Mark III on pre-order with B&H. I ordered it late morning after the intro, so I'm not sure if I'll be in the first wave of shipments. I selected overnight shipping, so I'm hopeful that next weekend will be spent putting it through my own tests. I am planning to shoot a resolution chart and conduct my own moire test (I use my wooden deck for my moire standard, which induces terrible moire in my 600D). I will do a "shootout" with the 600D, 5D Mark III, and my Sony PMW-EX1 (sorry - I don't have a Mark II with which to compare it).

Here's what I plan to base the 5D Mark III test on: https://vimeo.com/35445053

If anyone has suggestions on how to better conduct the resolution test, I'm open to suggestions. I'm not a professional - just an enthusiastic hobbyist who takes this hobby seriously.

This time, I'll upload the full 1920x1080 mp4 and let Vimeo downrez to 1280x720 (ughhh). This way, anyone on Vimeo can download and compare at Full HD.

Having said that, I don't think that this particular resolution test is the be-all, end-all of the performance of anything. My EX1 looks better on this test, but I find myself prefering the video from my 600D (except when there's moire!) in many situations, even though it clearly has less than full HD true resolution. Thus, the test is simply that - a test along one dimension that may or may not be informative for a particular project. That's the way I see most of these videos. They are examples in certain shooting situations that may or may not be relevant to me.

Would I like for these sample videos to blow me away with video quality? Yes. But, I have yet to see any YouTube video of anything do that. I'd really like to see some well-done examples on Vimeo. The "low light test" of fabrics was pretty good for what it was. Had it been steadier (not handheld), I would have found it more informative.
 
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Here's another one that MIGHT be a 5D Mark III (it is only labelled as "Mark III"). Having looked at the 1920x1080 file, this one seems to show very nice resolution. It appears to be shot at a high frame rate, but the image is quite nice if you can get over the lack of stability by the camera operator. Rolling shutter still shows up, but of course it would when shot like this. The C300 footage looks dreamy to me, and the "Mark III" looks quite good, too.
https://vimeo.com/38536929
 
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JasonATL said:
Here's another one that MIGHT be a 5D Mark III (it is only labelled as "Mark III"). Having looked at the 1920x1080 file, this one seems to show very nice resolution. It appears to be shot at a high frame rate, but the image is quite nice if you can get over the lack of stability by the camera operator. Rolling shutter still shows up, but of course it would when shot like this. The C300 footage looks dreamy to me, and the "Mark III" looks quite good, too.
https://vimeo.com/38536929
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Confusing test, he spent a long time on the C300 stuff and then zipped through the 5D3 and flew threw the 5D2 and the 5D3 footage was shaking like mad, I couldn't tell much.
 
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JasonATL said:
Here's another one that MIGHT be a 5D Mark III (it is only labelled as "Mark III"). Having looked at the 1920x1080 file, this one seems to show very nice resolution. It appears to be shot at a high frame rate, but the image is quite nice if you can get over the lack of stability by the camera operator. Rolling shutter still shows up, but of course it would when shot like this. The C300 footage looks dreamy to me, and the "Mark III" looks quite good, too.
https://vimeo.com/38536929
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Thanks! Well, he sold me on the c300...although it looks over sharpened in a way I'm not familiar with. That I couldn't tell what was 5DII and 5DIII until I looked doesn't bode well, but the 5DIII's resolution isn't any worse and the rolling shutter is obviously improved. Still looks like dSLR footage to me overall. Really hard to conclude anything from that.
 
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gene_can_sing said:
From all the videos I've seen and with Canon's record towards video, I'm ready to be disappointed again. Every clip I've seen (even the side by sides with the old MK2), it looks like the same up res'd 700 lines of resolution and NOT the 1000 lines that defines True HD. The 5D3 does not look any sharper than the soft 5D2, which is really sad.

For what Canon is charging and how long they've made us wait, they OWE their loyal video customers 2012 video functions that does TRUE HD at 1000 lines.

Either that or come out with the 4K DSLR by NAB. I would hope that the 4K would be true HD. Not really sure what they are trying to protect by releasing a soft 5D3. I work in TV in LA, and I don't know of anyone who has bought a C-300 yet. It's not like they are flying off the shelf because they're so over-priced.

So PLEASE Canon if you are reading this, just give us real HD video. Even the cheapo GH2 has true HD.
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Especially since 22MP is probably all because they meant to make it have superior video.

I still have a hard time believing that it won't be sharper. I mean how could it not? Unless it's just the in cam codec chip is just set to be very poor about retaining high frequencies or something.
 
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JasonATL said:
Regarding: http://dslr4real.tv/index.php?option=com_zoo&task=item&item_id=105&Itemid=1

Thanks for sharing.

Finally, some indications that the Mark III is indeed a step up for video. It is worth taking a look at this quick hands-on review.
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"a little hissy compared to a quality recorder and mic"

I wonder if it is same horrendously hissy as the 7D/5D2 or a lesser degree of hissy?
With the 5D2 you need to use a juiced-link pre-amp or something if you record with the cam otherwise it is hissy beyond all get out and even with that, it can be hissy if you are trying to pick up slightly quieter stuff.
 
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If one can't even hold a camera there's little chance of one's making a fair comparison test.

If in doubt, wait until competent tests are made comparing the bodies. Indications are that the 5d3 absolutely wipes the floor with the 5d2. The C300 looks like a big step in the right direction for Canon, lovely color and detail for a Rebel-sized sensor, but it also looks like a body that has a useful life of only a year or so before it's considered obsolete, which is frightfully short for $16K.
 
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I'm getting a kick out of people who try to blame the "softness" of the image on the NR settings. There's no way they would put a shitty NR algorithm that would smooth out so much detail to make it look that soft. That's just straight out of the apolgetic lala-land.
 
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Yes the test video's so far all seem underwhelming...so much so that it's not clear by them it's much better than the Mark II. But I am leaning toward the actual camera is a beast when used by someone who can hold it still.

We will know soon hopefully. I had a chance to try out a D4 and it really impressed me. But still holding out hope for the Mark III to be a stunner.
 
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