Reports of the EOS 5DS Landing at USA Retailers

It's just a pretty picture for the box. I'm certain it has "Lens not included" written on there in microscopic lawyer print.

lichtmalen said:
erjlphoto said:
So the 5Ds Is also sold in a kit with the 24-70 f/4? Don't see any retailers listing it iwith a kit lens..

No, body only. Maybe some shopsshops offer custom kits, but I wouldn't pair it with the f/4.
 
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5DS in-hand, and I'm a happy camper :-* :-* :-* :-*

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JoeDavid said:
My 5DS was just delivered by FEDEX as expected. I know what I'll be doing over the weekend.

I did take a few test shots this afternoon to play around with. First off setting up the camera is similar to the 7DM2 (for example you have the ability to add additional "My Menu" tabs) plus some additional options. Second, WOW! If you think you can't get sharp 50MP images hand held, try the 16-35/4L IS lens. Tomorrow I'll use the tripod but for a couple of test images it was definitely up to the task. I will say though that if you want the sharpest images out of the 5DS you have to run DPP 4.2.32 and enable the lens profile on the image. It is slooooow to enable it on an image and then transfer it to Photoshop but the image is noticeably sharper than the one that Photoshop produces from the same RAW file. This brings me to an issue with DPP 4. It may have always been there I wouldn't know because this is the first camera that I'd consider using M-RAW at times. It's 28MP and has less storage and processing requirements plus it is still higher resolution than any other Canon camera that has come before it. In DPP however you cannot apply the lens profile to it! It says there is no lens data even though you can CTRL-I over the image to view the shot information and the lens is correctly identified. Smells like a bug to me. I also tried it with S-RAW and had the same results. The only one I could apply a lens profile to is a full RAW image file.

Another spot on feature is the new AWB-White setting. If you think Canon leans a little too far toward a warm tungsten image you'll like this one. It favors true white balance and seems to work quite well.

What little I've looked at it, the noise in higher ISO images is easily controlled in the final image. High ISO to me though is 1600. I haven't looked at 3200 or 6400. If you are using Photoshop just kick in a little luminance NR in addition to the standard Chroma setting or use a third party plug-in like Define.

Pretty impressive camera despite all of the negativity expressed on the forum. To my eyes the simple test images I've done look better than the ones you find online from the pre-production models.
 
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JoeDavid said:
JoeDavid said:
My 5DS was just delivered by FEDEX as expected. I know what I'll be doing over the weekend.

I did take a few test shots this afternoon to play around with. First off setting up the camera is similar to the 7DM2 (for example you have the ability to add additional "My Menu" tabs) plus some additional options. Second, WOW! If you think you can't get sharp 50MP images hand held, try the 16-35/4L IS lens. Tomorrow I'll use the tripod but for a couple of test images it was definitely up to the task. I will say though that if you want the sharpest images out of the 5DS you have to run DPP 4.2.32 and enable the lens profile on the image. It is slooooow to enable it on an image and then transfer it to Photoshop but the image is noticeably sharper than the one that Photoshop produces from the same RAW file. This brings me to an issue with DPP 4. It may have always been there I wouldn't know because this is the first camera that I'd consider using M-RAW at times. It's 28MP and has less storage and processing requirements plus it is still higher resolution than any other Canon camera that has come before it. In DPP however you cannot apply the lens profile to it! It says there is no lens data even though you can CTRL-I over the image to view the shot information and the lens is correctly identified. Smells like a bug to me. I also tried it with S-RAW and had the same results. The only one I could apply a lens profile to is a full RAW image file.

Another spot on feature is the new AWB-White setting. If you think Canon leans a little too far toward a warm tungsten image you'll like this one. It favors true white balance and seems to work quite well.

What little I've looked at it, the noise in higher ISO images is easily controlled in the final image. High ISO to me though is 1600. I haven't looked at 3200 or 6400. If you are using Photoshop just kick in a little luminance NR in addition to the standard Chroma setting or use a third party plug-in like Define.

Pretty impressive camera despite all of the negativity expressed on the forum. To my eyes the simple test images I've done look better than the ones you find online from the pre-production models.

MRAW and SRAW aren't really normal RAW files, a lot of pre-processing has already happened, they are maybe a bit past half-way between JPGs and real RAWs.
 
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PureClassA said:
I dont think the idea is to see what camera wins. Barring nothing but fast action, the MF will take the day. It's to see how close the Canon FF bodies are to MF given the same shooting conditions.

GuyF said:
Halfrack said:
...plus side by side with my Hasselbald (50mp CCD).

Whilst I applaud the intention, isn't it a foregone conclusion the Hasselblad will pee all over the Canon? I would really like to get a medium format setup and momentarily considered the Canon but the photosites are so small compared to true MF that I thought it would be a bad move. I hope you can prove me wrong!

Will you be able to post comparisons?

Anyway, congrats on your new toy!

I'll post raws from both, and as much as I love my Hassy, it's not an everything in all conditions camera. I want the 645Z - have shot it A LOT, will be good to compare. Shooting with the 200-400 for the first time, who forgot the warning labels on this lens?!?!?

The new photographers dilemma - 645Z and a 600mm A lens (no AF), or a 5Ds/R with a 200-400... otherwise 9k on a body and 3k on a lens, or 4k on a body, and 11k on a lens....
 
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Halfrack said:
PureClassA said:
I dont think the idea is to see what camera wins. Barring nothing but fast action, the MF will take the day. It's to see how close the Canon FF bodies are to MF given the same shooting conditions.

GuyF said:
Halfrack said:
...plus side by side with my Hasselbald (50mp CCD).

Whilst I applaud the intention, isn't it a foregone conclusion the Hasselblad will pee all over the Canon? I would really like to get a medium format setup and momentarily considered the Canon but the photosites are so small compared to true MF that I thought it would be a bad move. I hope you can prove me wrong!

Will you be able to post comparisons?

Anyway, congrats on your new toy!

I'll post raws from both, and as much as I love my Hassy, it's not an everything in all conditions camera. I want the 645Z - have shot it A LOT, will be good to compare. Shooting with the 200-400 for the first time, who forgot the warning labels on this lens?!?!?

The new photographers dilemma - 645Z and a 600mm A lens (no AF), or a 5Ds/R with a 200-400... otherwise 9k on a body and 3k on a lens, or 4k on a body, and 11k on a lens....

I've been looking at the Pentax just this last week. Although it uses the same sensor as some other MFs, the results don't have the same velvety look (at least to my eyes). Whether this is wholly down to lens, lighting or post processing I'm not sure.

Will probably just wait hoping to inherit zillions from somewhere and get the Phase One xf and 80mb back! Could be a looooong wait....
 
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So any Adorama customers heard anything? Their ordering website opened up at 20 minutes to midnight, and I had my order number and confirmation for a 5dsr at 1142 PM eastern time on the night of the 22nd, so I was hoping I was fairly high on the list. I have heard nothing from Adorama. Anybody else hear anything yet?

Jim
 
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flux capacitor said:
lichtmalen said:
Any Germans here that can supply information?

Foto Gregor in Cologne told me still June 30th as shipping date.

Just saw on canons German Facebook page the official release post and that the cameras release on 15th. So that's about it. I think they are already at the shops but they weren't allowed to sell them yet.
 
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lichtmalen said:
Just saw on canons German Facebook page the official release post and that the cameras release on 15th. So that's about it. I think they are already at the shops but they weren't allowed to sell them yet.

Just saw it too, I might get slightly anoyed if the camera isn't available on June 15th in germany.
 
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lichtmalen said:
Yeah, me too. Was the first to pre-order at my dealer which is a Canon pro partner. If anyone should get it on Monday it's me. ;D

Canon Europe sent out two mails to dealers this week, an automated one saying we have just sent you.... and it will arrive on.... The second email basically said they are only to be sold from Monday, and don't mess us around on this :)
 
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