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Samples of Canon 85mm f1.4 IS posted by DPreview

if this is what you called removed, then yes... in general LoCA are known to be hard to remove "properly" in post.

Sigma 85 Art shows a fair amount of LoCA and the verdict was that they can be removed but at cost of loss of sharpness. I am pretty sure that Dustin commented on this issue quite a few times. I am not crazy about the bokeh quality of the new lens so far either. I will keep my Sigma 85 Art for now and see how it all goes.

p.s. see if you can easily remove LoCA in image #26 in DPR gallery.

privatebydesign said:
That as always, is easily removed if you want.
 
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CanonFanBoy said:
Music critics and jounalists aren't doing reviews of the guitars, pianos, etc. They re reviewing the lens tunes. If DPR was reviewing photos your analogy would work.

Ya' gotta be proficient with the instrument to properly review it. DPR is not proficient.
The reviewers of instruments don't need to be particularly proficient beyond the basics, either; anyone who has ever seen a Guitar World review of anything will know what I'm talking about.
As it happens, I used to review music effects pedals for a UK national publication. My playing ability is minimal, but I can be a decent writer (when I can be bothered) and I know my way around the innards of a pedal, hence I got the work.
Hell, look at how many food critics are good chefs and vice-versa. Most motoring journalists are not expert race car drivers. Rarely do you find computer programmers reviewing computer hardware.

Point remains. Ability to utilise something significantly above-averagely and ability to report on something are two entirely separate skillsets, and you can not expect every reviewer to possess both skills, given how few people in the world actually do.
 
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It's not what I call removed, it is removed going by the pixel RGB values. There is no sharpness loss when you desaturate the specific colors, none. What you might have to do on an image like #26 is mask or layer, and that isn't something I'd want to do to every shot, but it isn't that time consuming and is well worth the couple of minutes for the keepers.

I am on a boat so can't download #26 RAW, but I guarantee I can remove it to RGB value neutrals without much effort (and will do when I have decent internet).

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying there are not aberrations, what I am saying is I'll take correctable ones any day over uncorrectable ones.


SecureGSM said:
if this is what you called removed, then yes... in general LoCA are known to be hard to remove "properly" in post.

Sigma 85 Art shows a fair amount of LoCA and the verdict was that they can be removed but at cost of loss of sharpness. I am pretty sure that Dustin commented on this issue quite a few times. I am not crazy about the bokeh quality of the new lens so far either. I will keep my Sigma 85 Art for now and see how it all goes.

p.s. see if you can easily remove LoCA in image #26 in DPR gallery.

privatebydesign said:
That as always, is easily removed if you want.
 
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Thank you very much for the hint. I genuinely look forward to see what can be done with #26 when your time permits. Do you think that you can post a write up on what steps were required for you to remove LoCA in this image PS and LR?

privatebydesign said:
It's not what I call removed, it is removed going by the pixel RGB values. There is no sharpness loss when you desaturate the specific colors, none. What you might have to do on an image like #26 is mask or layer, and that isn't something I'd want to do to every shot, but it isn't that time consuming and is well worth the couple of minutes for the keepers.

I am on a boat so can't download #26 RAW, but I guarantee I can remove it to RGB value neutrals without much effort (and will do when I have decent internet).

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying there are not aberrations, what I am saying is I'll take correctable ones any day over uncorrectable ones.
 
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Enough proof for me, without any mega-pro shooter examples! This lens will best the 1.2 on at least three levels: 1) IS 2) weather-sealing 3) Price. AF speed most likely.

Sure, it's 1/3 stop "slower," but this will be waaaay more versatile. I am glad I pre-ordered it :)
 
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SecureGSM said:
Thank you very much for the hint. I genuinely look forward to see what can be done with #26 when your time permits. Do you think that you can post a write up on what steps were required for you to remove LoCA in this image PS and LR?

Here is #26 from the RAW.

Unfortunately I am working on an uncalibrated monitor so if there s still purple/green shifting it is my monitor, to me it looks colour consistent.

Three images showing what I did.

1st is Camera Raw filter Lens Corrections CA settings.
2nd is in PS with the mask
3rd is as 2 but with the CA settings turned off.

Opened as Smart Object in PS, made a Camera RAW Filter, made the Smart Filter mask black then painted in the areas I wanted to remove the CA. You can go as deep into it as you want, removing the CA from the bokeh blurs etc, it is very output centric but a perfectly good technique.

This technique keeps the desaturation to the specific areas that are problematic, so you can dial in where you want it or not and it dies not impact resolution one iota.

Like I said, you wouldn't want to do this to every file but for the keepers this took me less than five minutes and fits in with a normal PS workflow for my prints and session hero shots.
 

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Thanks again. PS with the mask looks the best to my eyes. Certainly makes quite a difference now.

privatebydesign said:
Here is #26 from the RAW.

Unfortunately I am working on an uncalibrated monitor so if there s still purple/green shifting it is my monitor, to me it looks colour consistent.

Three images showing what I did.

1st is Camera Raw filter Lens Corrections CA settings.
2nd is in PS with the mask
3rd is as 2 but with the CA settings turned off.

Opened as Smart Object in PS, made a Camera RAW Filter, made the Smart Filter mask black then painted in the areas I wanted to remove the CA. You can go as deep into it as you want, removing the CA from the bokeh blurs etc, it is very output centric but a perfectly good technique.

This technique keeps the desaturation to the specific areas that are problematic, so you can dial in where you want it or not and it dies not impact resolution one iota.

Like I said, you wouldn't want to do this to every file but for the keepers this took me less than five minutes and fits in with a normal PS workflow for my prints and session hero shots.
 
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Hi guys, I picked up my copy of the lens a couple of days ago and used it in a shoot yesterday along side the trusted 70-200 IS 2.8 II. My guess is that the focus speed is very close to 70-200 if not on par. It seems just as accurate as the 70-200 which is always comforting for a f1.4 lens.

For the 1.4 buffs, I went out for a quick stroll and took a gallery of f1.4 ONLY shots. No models willing to pose unfortunately:
https://www.freelancephotographermelbourne.com.au/Digital-Samples/Canon-EF-85mm-f14L-IS-USM-Lens/
 
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melbournite said:
Hi guys, I picked up my copy of the lens a couple of days ago and used it in a shoot yesterday along side the trusted 70-200 IS 2.8. My guess is that the focus speed is very close to 70-200 if not on par. It seems just as accurate as the 70-200 which is always comforting for a f1.4 lens.

For the 1.4 buffs, I went out for a quick stroll and took a gallery of f1.4 ONLY shots. No models willing to pose unfortunately:
http://www.freelancephotographermelbourne.com.au/Digital-Samples/Canon-EF-85mm-f14L-IS-USM-Lens/

Very cool, thanks! Liking what I see here. Some good 3-D effects happening.
 
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Nice photos. thanks for sharing.
Where did you get your lens from in Australia?
I see the lens is still on pre-order at Camerastore in Adelaide at A$2,250 delivered.


melbournite said:
Hi guys, I picked up my copy of the lens a couple of days ago and used it in a shoot yesterday along side the trusted 70-200 IS 2.8. My guess is that the focus speed is very close to 70-200 if not on par. It seems just as accurate as the 70-200 which is always comforting for a f1.4 lens.

For the 1.4 buffs, I went out for a quick stroll and took a gallery of f1.4 ONLY shots. No models willing to pose unfortunately:
http://www.freelancephotographermelbourne.com.au/Digital-Samples/Canon-EF-85mm-f14L-IS-USM-Lens/
 
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MrFotoFool said:
melbournite said:
...For the 1.4 buffs, I went out for a quick stroll and took a gallery of f1.4 ONLY shots. No models willing to pose unfortunately:
http://www.freelancephotographermelbourne.com.au/Digital-Samples/Canon-EF-85mm-f14L-IS-USM-Lens/
Thanks for the samples.

+1 thanks for the shots!

To me, the ones of the bikers have nice pop and it looks great. But the ones of the black dog, and a few others, the bokeh and background looks quite terrible. But the close up of the leave and others where the background is smoother it looks absolutely stunning. Seems like if I want to really have a great background I would need a fairly smooth background to begin with. And to get that really nice pop distance between background and subject and subject to photographer needs to be similiar.
 
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melbournite said:
Hi guys, I picked up my copy of the lens a couple of days ago and used it in a shoot yesterday along side the trusted 70-200 IS 2.8. My guess is that the focus speed is very close to 70-200 if not on par. It seems just as accurate as the 70-200 which is always comforting for a f1.4 lens.

For the 1.4 buffs, I went out for a quick stroll and took a gallery of f1.4 ONLY shots. No models willing to pose unfortunately:
http://www.freelancephotographermelbourne.com.au/Digital-Samples/Canon-EF-85mm-f14L-IS-USM-Lens/

Thank you for the samples! Did you mean it's as fast as the 70-200 2.8 IS II or IS I ?
 
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