Canon RF 85mm F1.4L VCM: The Portrait Specialist

"I was totally impressed with the Canon RF 85mm f/1.4L VCM when I DIVED into ..." ‍

Cameras may be your area of expertise. English apparently is NOT.

Dived? How about "..when I dove into..." ?
 
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"I was totally impressed with the Canon RF 85mm f/1.4L VCM when I DIVED into ..." ‍

Cameras may be your area of expertise. English apparently is NOT.

Dived? How about "..when I dove into..." ?
Both are acceptable as past tense form of 'dive'. It seems that 'dove' is more commonly used in North America, whereas 'dived' is more common elsewhere.
 
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I saw a review where it seemed like the lens is more like 80mm focal length instead of of 85mm. Compared to the 85mm F1.2 and 85mm F2 it really seemed the lens was/ is wider. Did that come up somewhere else? Or was it maybe an issue with "pre-production" lens?
 
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I saw a review where it seemed like the lens is more like 80mm focal length instead of of 85mm. Compared to the 85mm F1.2 and 85mm F2 it really seemed the lens was/ is wider. Did that come up somewhere else? Or was it maybe an issue with "pre-production" lens?
Gordon Laings (p)review shows the same, the RF 85mm VCM is a few milimeters wider than the other 85mm lenses. You can see this at around 7 minutes in the video. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIox841n4Lo
 
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"I was totally impressed with the Canon RF 85mm f/1.4L VCM when I DIVED into ..." ‍

Cameras may be your area of expertise. English apparently is NOT.

Dived? How about "..when I dove into..." ?
Feel better? Do you have a worldwide grip on the English language now? You don't understand regional variations?

I get it. You were a hall monitor in school. Right? You can stop now. We've graduated. Grading is through.
 
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Are you sure the compared lens is strictly 85 mm? Maybe its FL is longer than 85mm?
They’re all 85mm lenses (or close enough with rounding). The likely patent for the RF 85/1.4 VCM has it as an 82.6 or 82.9mm f/1.45 lens, but similarly the likely patent for the RF 85/1.2 is 82.3mm f/1.24. The explanation is not a difference in real focal length.

I eschew YT videos (DIY home repairs notwithstanding) but I did scrub to the ~7 min mark to see it was a noted in a focusing speed comparison with objects arranged in a table and in a portrait comparison. The reviewer failed to provide the proper technical explanation, which is unfortunate but unsurprising.

What’s really going on is that the focal length of a lens is specified as the distance from the rear nodal point to the sensor with the lens focused at infinity. When a lens appears to have a wider FoV (shorter FL) with closer subjects (as in the YT reviewer’s examples), that’s due to focus breathing. That’s why, for example, the EF 100/2.8L Macro has the FoV of a ~68mm lens at 1:1 magnification.

Canon touts the 85 VCM as having minimal focus breathing, which is desirable in a lens intended for hybrid use (lack of focus breathing is one of the reasons cine lenses are so expensive). Focus breathing is not necessarily linear with subject distance, and I suspect what’s happening with the 85 VCM is that Canon’s design puts most of the breathing closer to infinity, so there’s relatively little change in FoV with subjects at different ‘normal’ (for people) distances. Doing so is facilitated with modern focus-by-wire lenses where a microchip instead of gearing is controlling focus motor movement.
 
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They’re all 85mm lenses (or close enough with rounding). The likely patent for the RF 85/1.4 VCM has it as an 82.6 or 82.9mm f/1.45 lens, but similarly the likely patent for the RF 85/1.2 is 82.3mm f/1.24. The explanation is not a difference in real focal length.

I eschew YT videos (DIY home repairs notwithstanding) but I did scrub to the ~7 min mark to see it was a noted in a focusing speed comparison with objects arranged in a table and in a portrait comparison. The reviewer failed to provide the proper technical explanation, which is unfortunate but unsurprising.

What’s really going on is that the focal length of a lens is specified as the distance from the rear nodal point to the sensor with the lens focused at infinity. When a lens appears to have a wider FoV (shorter FL) with closer subjects (as in the YT reviewer’s examples), that’s due to focus breathing. That’s why, for example, the EF 100/2.8L Macro has the FoV of a ~68mm lens at 1:1 magnification.

Canon touts the 85 VCM as having minimal focus breathing, which is desirable in a lens intended for hybrid use (lack of focus breathing is one of the reasons cine lenses are so expensive). Focus breathing is not necessarily linear with subject distance, and I suspect what’s happening with the 85 VCM is that Canon’s design puts most of the breathing closer to infinity, so there’s relatively little change in FoV with subjects at different ‘normal’ (for people) distances. Doing so is facilitated with modern focus-by-wire lenses where a microchip instead of gearing is controlling focus motor movement.
Interesting what you wrote about cine lenses.
I always believed Canon's cine lenses were only photo lenses in a different mount, thoroughly checked and adjusted, maybe differently coated for identical colour rendering.
 
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