There Are Two More VCM Prime Lenses Coming

[David - Sydney]

I have the 9mm TTartisan, it's impossible, takes too long to get rid of the green fringing. I think it's more the sensor than the lens, or a bit of both. Doesn't matter, I suck at wide angle anyway.

I'd be interested to know if the 6mm is the same.

The 8-15/4 has a lot of fringing on the edge as well. I use a mask to get rid of it but this takes away some of the FoV. The 6mm has 220 degree view so shooting vertically means that it can be higher on a tripod and still get the ground as well. Have to ensure that I am underneath though.
My shot of the telescopes had the camera in-between the rail tracks...basically at ground level and I had to hide further away to avoid being in it. Anyway, that's my thinking but it will be fun to play with it especially as the price is very reasonable.

 

[David - Sydney]

Another VCM, another VCM, yet another VCM... I signed up for Canon gears because they said a lot of new lenses were coming - but to me these VCM lenses are just slightly better copies of already existing lenses. Where are the real NEW lenses? Other brands focus on innovative focal lengths, apertures and/or lightweight lenses while Canon just releases copies...

There has been no equivalent for the 20/1.4 in the past. A friend has it and has commented that the coma is very well controlled so much better than my Sigma EF20/14 which is really the only other fast/wide prime for Canon. It is also smaller and much lighter.
I'm hoping one of the additional 2 lenses will be even wider and at least f1.8

 

[David - Sydney]

I am for 16mm F1.4 if no excessive barrel nor pincushion distortion; a little bit is ok.

Coma, coma, coma! (from Marcia, Marcia, Marcia / Brady Bunch)

 

[Daniel Lindblom]

I hope it will be the last VCM lenses in a long time.

 

[Canon Rumors]

I hope it will be the last VCM lenses in a long time.

We're definitely going to see more of them. The primes to round out the lineup and then I think we're going to see it in zooms. The next 24-70 2.8 wouldn't surprise me.

 

[Daniel Lindblom]

We're definitely going to see more of them. The primes to round out the lineup and then I think we're going to see it in zooms. The next 24-70 2.8 wouldn't surprise me.

I have both the RF 24-105 and 70-200 Z lenses and I love them. But I would like Canon to focus on other types of lenses for a while, like new TS-R lenses.

 

[m4ndr4ke]

I am for 16mm F1.4 if no excessive barrel nor pincushion distortion; a little bit is ok.

I'd get ready for disappointment, if I were you

 

[Besisika]

I'd get ready for disappointment, if I were you

I know! Just a wishful thinking, I guess. That is for cine lens.

 

[Quack]

Another VCM, another VCM, yet another VCM... I signed up for Canon gears because they said a lot of new lenses were coming - but to me these VCM lenses are just slightly better copies of already existing lenses. Where are the real NEW lenses? Other brands focus on innovative focal lengths, apertures and/or lightweight lenses while Canon just releases copies...

Yes, just copies...and nothing lightweight. Which is kind of odd when, perhaps the number one complaint of people on this forum is that Canon's new lenses are focused more on being lightweight at the cost of higher apertures. And nothing innovative or light weight except the RF 100-500 with more reach and yet lighter than the EF 100-400, the RF 100-400 which is smaller and lighter than anything similar, the RF 600mm and 800mm f/11 lenses unlike anything anyone else has ever made, the 24-105 f/2.8, the RF 100-300, and probably numerous others that are unlike any lens in their EF lineup and often unlike any lens made by anyone.

What I'm sure you meant to say, but somehow got confused was, "Canon is not releasing the lenses I want." Because, unless you are totally clueless, Canon has released numerous lenses that are quite innovative.

 

[Ozarker]

Another VCM, another VCM, yet another VCM... I signed up for Canon gears because they said a lot of new lenses were coming - but to me these VCM lenses are just slightly better copies of already existing lenses. Where are the real NEW lenses? Other brands focus on innovative focal lengths, apertures and/or lightweight lenses while Canon just releases copies...

You must be joking.

 

[Eloniel]

You must be joking.

I feel the same, where are the exotic and truly innovative lenses dedicated to photo that we crave ?

• Longer Macro lenses, 150, 180, 200 mm
• Macro lenses with variable magnification ratio
• Macro zoom lenses
• Tilt shift rf lenses
• Auto focus tilt shift lenses
• Macro and Tilt shift in a single lens
• Extreme aperture zoom lenses 15-24 f2.0, 24-70 f2.0, 35-135 or 50-150 f2.0
• Extreme aperture prime lenses, 24, 35, 50mm and 85mm F1.0, 135 f1.4, 200 f2.0 (hell we're still waiting for 35 f1.2...)
• And that's not even getting into telephoto lenses.

Canon, in particular, seems to have lost its way. Brands like Sony and Sigma are releasing groundbreaking lenses that aren't even available to Canon shooters, putting them at a clear disadvantage. Even Laowa is releasing world first lenses with their probe and tilt-shift macro lenses.

To justify a multi-thousand-dollar camera setup over a high-end smartphone or used pro DSLR, manufacturers must offer a meaningful differentiator. If they want to attract a younger audience and reverse the trend of an aging photographer demographic, they need to provide a compelling reason to invest.

I see 2 paths to keep this edge:

• Bigger Sensors: As seen with Fujifilm and Hasselblad, increasing sensor size offers a clear leap in image quality.
• Crazy Lenses: The approach taken by Sony and Sigma—releasing innovative, unique glass that can't be replicated on a smartphone or a older camera setup.

Canon was once synonymous with state-of-the-art lenses, and that reputation was a key reason so many chose their system. These days, it feels like they've lost that edge.

 

[P-visie]

I feel the same, where are the exotic and truly innovative lenses dedicated to photo that we crave ?

• Longer Macro lenses, 150, 180, 200 mm
• Macro lenses with variable magnification ratio
• Macro zoom lenses
• Tilt shift rf lenses
• Auto focus tilt shift lenses
• Macro and Tilt shift in a single lens
• Extreme aperture zoom lenses 15-24 f2.0, 24-70 f2.0, 35-135 or 50-150 f2.0
• Extreme aperture prime lenses, 24, 35, 50mm and 85mm F1.0, 135 f1.4, 200 f2.0 (hell we're still waiting for 35 f1.2...)
• And that's not even getting into telephoto lenses.

Canon, in particular, seems to have lost its way. Brands like Sony and Sigma are releasing groundbreaking lenses that aren't even available to Canon shooters, putting them at a clear disadvantage. Even Laowa is releasing world first lenses with their probe and tilt-shift macro lenses.

To justify a multi-thousand-dollar camera setup over a high-end smartphone or used pro DSLR, manufacturers must offer a meaningful differentiator. If they want to attract a younger audience and reverse the trend of an aging photographer demographic, they need to provide a compelling reason to invest.

I see 2 paths to keep this edge:

• Bigger Sensors: As seen with Fujifilm and Hasselblad, increasing sensor size offers a clear leap in image quality.
• Crazy Lenses: The approach taken by Sony and Sigma—releasing innovative, unique glass that can't be replicated on a smartphone or a older camera setup.

Canon was once synonymous with state-of-the-art lenses, and that reputation was a key reason so many chose their system. These days, it feels like they've lost that edge.

I agree with you about the “need” for a 180mm or 200mm RF macro lens, but that, like the other lenses you have listed, are niche lenses, aimed at photo enthusiasts who are able to afford these, no doubt, expensive lenses. Not likely to “attract a younger audience”. Canon’s market research will have provided Canon with detailed information and guides Canon’s lens and camera strategy.

The number of Fuji and Hasselblad large sensor camera’s sold is only a fraction of the digital camera sales. A 2022 post on a Fuji forum states less than 15.000 GFX camera’s sold per year.

I strongly suspect that the way to attract a younger generation is compact camera’s, entry level camera’s and vlogging/ video oriented camera’s and lenses (hence return of the Powershot, EOS R50V, VCM lenses etc.).

 

[Exploreshootshare]

I feel the same, where are the exotic and truly innovative lenses dedicated to photo that we crave ?

• Longer Macro lenses, 150, 180, 200 mm
• Macro lenses with variable magnification ratio
• Macro zoom lenses
• Tilt shift rf lenses
• Auto focus tilt shift lenses
• Macro and Tilt shift in a single lens
• Extreme aperture zoom lenses 15-24 f2.0, 24-70 f2.0, 35-135 or 50-150 f2.0
• Extreme aperture prime lenses, 24, 35, 50mm and 85mm F1.0, 135 f1.4, 200 f2.0 (hell we're still waiting for 35 f1.2...)
• And that's not even getting into telephoto lenses.

I posted this in a different thread here, but it does make sense here as well:
Canon now has a consumer friendly lineup (the STM primes, affordable zooms in nearly all ranges) and the RF 85mm F1.4 VCM is a nice addition to their L lineup, but lately the third party companies are making a bunch of intriguing lenses. The last really exciting Canon lens was.... hm, right. Sigma has released several great lenses (although not for RF yet) and Laowa is stepping up their game as well. I think it is really time for Canon to bring something new and exciting. A new dedicated macro 180mm lens, one of the forever rumored tilt-shift lenses with AF, a 70mm 1xxmm F2 zoom, a much lighter 28-70mm F2. Maybe will get a new fantastic big white (zoom), but that may not be enough with the flurry of lenses sigma, laowa and even Tamron are bringing to the market. This wouldn't be so frustrating if the RF mount wasn't closed, but guess what...

Brands like Sony and Sigma are releasing groundbreaking lenses that aren't even available to Canon shooters, putting them at a clear disadvantage. Even Laowa is releasing world first lenses with their probe and tilt-shift macro lenses.

Funnily, Sony is also in the critique for not developing great lenses for all ranges. Yes, they released a lightweight 28-70mm F2 (which many people expected to start at 24mm) but this one came six years after Canons version. The 50-150mm F2 is the only really groundbreaking lens Sony has developed in recent years. There are doing a very good job with there mkii lenses especially in terms of making them lighter. The real innovators at the moment are the third party companies with Sigma at the top.

Canon has developed groundbreaking lenses, but lately you might say they lost some steam. Truth is, they focused on hybrid lenses (VCM primes and power zoom Z lenses) and affordable lenses (non L-F2.8 aperture e.g.) filling the consumer line-up. That takes time to develop and capacity to produce.

I hope Canons focus shifts again and we get great F2 zooms, dedicated macros (maybe with new features), TS lenses with AF and last but not least a 35mm F1.2 which will be much lighter than RF 50mm F1.2 and 85mm F1.2 and lead the way to mkii versions of the later lenses.

 

[blackcoffee17]

I feel the same, where are the exotic and truly innovative lenses dedicated to photo that we crave ?

• Longer Macro lenses, 150, 180, 200 mm
• Macro lenses with variable magnification ratio
• Macro zoom lenses
• Tilt shift rf lenses
• Auto focus tilt shift lenses
• Macro and Tilt shift in a single lens
• Extreme aperture zoom lenses 15-24 f2.0, 24-70 f2.0, 35-135 or 50-150 f2.0
• Extreme aperture prime lenses, 24, 35, 50mm and 85mm F1.0, 135 f1.4, 200 f2.0 (hell we're still waiting for 35 f1.2...)
• And that's not even getting into telephoto lenses.

Tilt-shift is probably the lowest priority for Canon currently. They have a line of amazing tilt-shift lenses, including a few with macro feature and adapting manual EF lenses to RF has 0 downsides, apart from the extra size + weight added by the adapter. They will probably come when everything else is in place.
But a longer macro is really missing. How old is the EF 180mm now?

 

[Eloniel]

I strongly suspect that the way to attract a younger generation is compact camera’s, entry level camera’s and vlogging/ video oriented camera’s and lenses (hence return of the Powershot, EOS R50V, VCM lenses etc.).

Yes of course for mass attraction you need something small and affordable but if the quality is too similar to phones it will not work. You want to have people think they can't do this photo with a smartphone. Of course medium format camera or L lenses will never be for everybody but you need something that entry level photographer will buy to upgrade after a few year. If you rely only on professional market that's how you reduce the volume and thus increases production costs.

Tilt-shift is probably the lowest priority for Canon currently. They have a line of amazing tilt-shift lenses, including a few with macro feature and adapting manual EF lenses to RF has 0 downsides, apart from the extra size + weight added by the adapter. They will probably come when everything else is in place.
But a longer macro is really missing. How old is the EF 180mm now?

Canon Rumors published rumor of AF tilt-shift where the tilt and shift could also be controlled in body through motors. That would make them more beginner friendly and lead to more sales. That's my hope for RF tilt-shift lenses.

 

[scyrene]

Longer Macro lenses, 150, 180, 200 mm

There was only ever one, the EF 180, wasn't there? Suddenly they need several?

Macro lenses with variable magnification ratio

What does this mean? Surely all macro lenses have variable magnification - you just change your distance to the subject?

Macro zoom lenses

Has Canon ever made one of these?

Auto focus tilt shift lenses

What brand makes these?

To justify a multi-thousand-dollar camera setup over a high-end smartphone or used pro DSLR, manufacturers must offer a meaningful differentiator. If they want to attract a younger audience and reverse the trend of an aging photographer demographic, they need to provide a compelling reason to invest.

Do you honestly think these ultra-niche, inevitably expensive ideas would be what newbies coming from phone photography would be looking for?

Canon was once synonymous with state-of-the-art lenses, and that reputation was a key reason so many chose their system. These days, it feels like they've lost that edge.

As has been pointed out above, Canon has released plenty novel lenses in the past few years, and many of them have mass market appeal - which is what actually sells. Halo products are fun and exciting and have their place, but there is no way they are defining commercial success as you imply.

 

[scyrene]

A new dedicated macro 180mm lens, one of the forever rumored tilt-shift lenses with AF,

With the caveat that "exciting" is subjective...

Although I too would like to see a new long macro lens, I don't actually think an RF 180 could be described as "exciting" unless it's radically different to the EF one. I can imagine the naysayers carping that it's just rehashing something we had 20+ years ago.

As for AF tilt/shift, that's certainly innovative but many of the forum folk who regularly use such lenses have said they don't see the utility of it, so although it's exciting, it might not be worthwhile.

 

[P-visie]

But a longer macro is really missing. How old is the EF 180mm now?

The EF 180mm macro lens is marketed from April 1996. See the Canon lens hall.

 

[P-visie]

Canon Rumors published rumor of AF tilt-shift where the tilt and shift could also be controlled in body through motors. That would make them more beginner friendly and lead to more sales. That's my hope for RF tilt-shift lenses.

EF tilt shift lenses retailprices in the Netherlands are between 2000 and 2600 € (incl VAT). Add AF and motors for tilt and/or shift and the price will be between 3000 and 4000 € (an optimistic guesstimate). Once again, these are not lenses that will help Canon sales to a wider, younger or beginners audience.

 

[Exploreshootshare]

With the caveat that "exciting" is subjective...

Although I too would like to see a new long macro lens, I don't actually think an RF 180 could be described as "exciting" unless it's radically different to the EF one. I can imagine the naysayers carping that it's just rehashing something we had 20+ years ago.

I´d guess a new RF 180mm Makro would come with new features, just like the RF 100mm did.

As for AF tilt/shift, that's certainly innovative but many of the forum folk who regularly use such lenses have said they don't see the utility of it, so although it's exciting, it might not be worthwhile.

Interesting, but maybe some creative possibilities open which aren't aware of as of now.