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#13,661
Hi Jack.
A couple of really nice shots, they certainly are yellow.
You are always busy doing some contraption or other, or a floor or a stone collage, I would have thought you had enough brownie points to allow you to take some time for you! ;D

Cheers, Graham.

Jack Douglas said:
In laziness, I'll just say great shots guys. Like Graham, I would be very disappointed if this thread disappeared.

Today the American Goldfinches (BTW why do Americans get their name on so many birds!) are visiting. I'm noticing that now birds and young are coming to feed so it's a good time to shoot (excuse to take breaks from the drudgery of work).

Jack
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Jack Douglas said:
In laziness, I'll just say great shots guys. Like Graham, I would be very disappointed if this thread disappeared.

Today the American Goldfinches (BTW why do Americans get their name on so many birds!) are visiting. I'm noticing that now birds and young are coming to feed so it's a good time to shoot (excuse to take breaks from the drudgery of work).

Jack
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Very nice, Jack! I love goldfinches.
 
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#13,667
Jack,
It's a life long job ::) :'( !
Just enjoy.
-r

Jack Douglas said:
Thanks guys. I'm my own worst enemy - I don't get compelled into these jobs. It's certainly not my wife's fault. My only hope might be life after death! ;) The floor isn't getting finished now that it's summer and what a disaster in our home!. :( ;D ;D

Jack
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#13,672
Coot babies all over the place! I can't decide if they are cute, or vermin...

As an aside...I am relatively new to photography (<2yrs) and shoot with the 80D but the 6D Mkii is tempting me to step up to Full Frame. I am a heavy cropper, but that is because I am lazy and just fire off as many shots in my limited time. I would like to think going to FF will make me more selective, but also make me a better photographer. Also, I find that with the 80D I am limited to ISO400 before the noise really get unbearable. I wait until there is bright sunlight. Again, with limited shooting time, I think that FF will allow me to take shots in lower light situations and still maintain high shutter speed.

To all those who moved from crop to FF...what are your opinions? Do you miss crop reach? Will never give up the FF ISO capabilities?

Thanks in advance.

CB
 

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@clbayley I moved from a Nikon crop with max 300m zoom so I kind of missed the reach but I forked out the cash with the 6D purchase for the 300 2.8 II and both extenders. That gave me 600mm and I was very happy with that... until reviews of the 400 DO II started to appear.

Now the 6D II has F8 focus and better points - if it had come sooner I'd possibly not have bought the 1DX2. My finances are not great but like Tron I can skimp and pay for my expensive hobby that brings me great satisfaction.

Be aware that heavy cropping will show the noise even on the best camera. With the 6D I tried to never go over ISO 1250 or 1600 because I never got close enough to not be cropping. The 6D2 I'd guess would allow me probably ISO 2000 or maybe 2500. Uncropped, even 3200 would likely look fine. Selective sharpening using NIK free software can help with noise a lot.

If you care to look at my National Geographic page (link at bottom) you'll see lots of 6D 600mm shots.

Jack
 
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#13,676
Hi clbayley.
A couple of very nice shots.
I see you have cropped down to 2.2Mp, that is harsh! :) To me it looks like you have the noise well under control, (can't see the ISO for the shot) and could allow yourself a bit of latitude, sometimes we are our own worst enemies as we are too hard on ourselves in the search for perfection (or the best we can do).
I can't imagine seeing this shot even with quite a lot more noise and saying to myself, wow that is noisy. It will always be wow I like that shot, (or oh my, a face only a mother could love!) it won't be the noise that springs to mind, bet money on that!

Cheers, Graham.

clbayley said:
Coot babies all over the place! I can't decide if they are cute, or vermin...

As an aside...I am relatively new to photography (<2yrs) and shoot with the 80D but the 6D Mkii is tempting me to step up to Full Frame. I am a heavy cropper, but that is because I am lazy and just fire off as many shots in my limited time. I would like to think going to FF will make me more selective, but also make me a better photographer. Also, I find that with the 80D I am limited to ISO400 before the noise really get unbearable. I wait until there is bright sunlight. Again, with limited shooting time, I think that FF will allow me to take shots in lower light situations and still maintain high shutter speed.

To all those who moved from crop to FF...what are your opinions? Do you miss crop reach? Will never give up the FF ISO capabilities?

Thanks in advance.

CB
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clbayley said:
Coot babies all over the place! I can't decide if they are cute, or vermin...

As an aside...I am relatively new to photography (<2yrs) and shoot with the 80D but the 6D Mkii is tempting me to step up to Full Frame. I am a heavy cropper, but that is because I am lazy and just fire off as many shots in my limited time. I would like to think going to FF will make me more selective, but also make me a better photographer. Also, I find that with the 80D I am limited to ISO400 before the noise really get unbearable. I wait until there is bright sunlight. Again, with limited shooting time, I think that FF will allow me to take shots in lower light situations and still maintain high shutter speed.

To all those who moved from crop to FF...what are your opinions? Do you miss crop reach? Will never give up the FF ISO capabilities?

Thanks in advance.

CB
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Hi clbayley,

Great photos of the Coot and the babies. Your question is difficult to answer but I will give it my take on FF vs Crop sensor.

I own the original 6D and the 7D Mark II and most of my glass is f/28 or faster, with the exception of my 400 f/5.6. By far the 6D gives cleaner images with a lot more detail and are easier to clean up. But, you give up a lot of "reach" vs the 7D2, meaning to frame the pictures the same size you will need longer and more expensive lenses for the FF camera. It is never ending. The 7D2 is so much more fun to shoot with but even in full daylight at iso 100 and f/2.8 there is still quite a lot of noise that I would not have with the 6D using the same glass and setup.

I think that the 6D2 will be a big improvement over the original. I would say that if you can afford both, I would keep the 80D and get either an original 6D at a lower price than the new one, or get the 6D2. One advantage of buying the 6D2 is that the controls and the AF will be almost identical to the 80D

Hope that helps,

Brian.
 
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clbayley said:
Coot babies all over the place! I can't decide if they are cute, or vermin...

As an aside...I am relatively new to photography (<2yrs) and shoot with the 80D but the 6D Mkii is tempting me to step up to Full Frame. I am a heavy cropper, but that is because I am lazy and just fire off as many shots in my limited time. I would like to think going to FF will make me more selective, but also make me a better photographer. Also, I find that with the 80D I am limited to ISO400 before the noise really get unbearable. I wait until there is bright sunlight. Again, with limited shooting time, I think that FF will allow me to take shots in lower light situations and still maintain high shutter speed.

To all those who moved from crop to FF...what are your opinions? Do you miss crop reach? Will never give up the FF ISO capabilities?

Thanks in advance.

CB
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The IMG_5100-1.jpg is very good! Athough you were asking something else! Before moving to FF try a 2-step denoising method. First using DxO's prime noise removal make a dng file. Set everything to off except from prime noise removal and some slight sharpening (nothing too harsh). Then use your usual processing software on that dng (and denoise a little more) :)
 
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Hi All! Thank you for the responses! I am not in any hurry, so I will likely take the best advice I have seen on these boards and rend a FF camera and see how it feels.

Valvebounce - strangely enough, these Coots were literally at my feet, so those images were not cropped at all. I do downsize to 1800 x 1200pix for posting online...I have attached a Sapsucker pic that is more normal for me, both the original out of camera, and the cropped (again, both are downsized to 1800 x 1200). I really don't like this crop, but I was just excited to see a Sapsucker!

Jack D - thanks for the comments. BTW, I think we are virtually neighbours...I live in Sherwood Park and have deduced that you live nearby. Happy Canada Day!

hbr - thank you for your insight.

tron - funny enough I have just started doing a 2 stage denoise process. I use Nik. I open in Photoshop and run DFine plugin. Then I process accordingly and after I resize the image I run DFine again. I know in my heart if I really want better pics, then I need to improve my post processing. I have all winter to focus on that, for now I am capturing images while the weather is nice.
 

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