hbr said:
Sell both and it wouldn't be much of an extra few bucks to get a 5d4 or certainly very little to get a 5d3?????
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Some Canon EOS 6D Mark II Talk [CR2]
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Sell both and it wouldn't be much of an extra few bucks to get a 5d4 or certainly very little to get a 5d3?????
Always room for improvement. I did have a chance to play w/ my friends 80d over the weekend, forgot how much I enjoy the tilty/flippy from my t3i days.
Someone could calculate the extra surface area, etc. But would be more interested in something that really goes after the low light side in a big way.
Stay in the 20mp range - protects the 5d4
4k vid with some better than average capabilities - lots of room to do 1:1 pixel as an option vs. down sampling. No 4k I think would really hobble the contest in the race for headline specs.
20 mp and the 4k data pipe would support a very nice FPS capability.
I would be ok w/ it not being super weather sealed ( I am largely if not completely a fair weather photo dude)
Push it to the top of the enthusiast market. 5D4 is the "bottom" of the pro market.
After playing w/ DP autofocus it seems to be the killer for macro focus stacking efforts - manual lenses excluced clearly. I could see the Magic Lantern guys having a blast setting the dpaf movements to exactly equal the circles of confusion steps.
I doubt much of my wants or opinions will come true or influence the outcome.
We will wait and see.
Happy clicks.
Someone could calculate the extra surface area, etc. But would be more interested in something that really goes after the low light side in a big way.
Stay in the 20mp range - protects the 5d4
4k vid with some better than average capabilities - lots of room to do 1:1 pixel as an option vs. down sampling. No 4k I think would really hobble the contest in the race for headline specs.
20 mp and the 4k data pipe would support a very nice FPS capability.
I would be ok w/ it not being super weather sealed ( I am largely if not completely a fair weather photo dude)
Push it to the top of the enthusiast market. 5D4 is the "bottom" of the pro market.
After playing w/ DP autofocus it seems to be the killer for macro focus stacking efforts - manual lenses excluced clearly. I could see the Magic Lantern guys having a blast setting the dpaf movements to exactly equal the circles of confusion steps.
I doubt much of my wants or opinions will come true or influence the outcome.
We will wait and see.
Happy clicks.
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If this has a decent autofocus and okay fps then there's a chance I'll buy a camera body new for the first time- based on these current speculative specs that is. I'm still looking at used 5D IIIs...
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By the time the 6D2 come out, the 5D4 should be in the part of the cycle where the price comes down a little bit - even if not officially, certainly through the various ways this happens, such as through third parties. We may find that the 5D4 is selling for $2800 to $2900 at that time. So a 6D2 that costs $2,000 having so many nice qualities will not seem so unnatural.
I do suspect that the autofocus not being the latest and greatest, and the f/8 focusing would be adequate to keep the higher end camera sales safe. Someone mentioned frames per second as one of those factors, but I hardly think the 5D4 deserves to be put on a pedestal for it's 7fps capacity. I say that as an enthusiastic owner and fan of the body. It's just missing 3 fps that the processor could deliver if Canon had decided to do so.
The spec list doesn't sound too crazy given that future pricing situation.
I do suspect that the autofocus not being the latest and greatest, and the f/8 focusing would be adequate to keep the higher end camera sales safe. Someone mentioned frames per second as one of those factors, but I hardly think the 5D4 deserves to be put on a pedestal for it's 7fps capacity. I say that as an enthusiastic owner and fan of the body. It's just missing 3 fps that the processor could deliver if Canon had decided to do so.
The spec list doesn't sound too crazy given that future pricing situation.
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The Flasher said:I was really hoping canon would listen this time. 3 card slots, two tilt screens or no buy
What, only one diopter? Stupid Canon. I'm switching to Sony.
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slclick said:
Excuse my ignorance, but if we were somehow able to get focus peaking, would that not negate the need for interchangeable focus screens?
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slclick said:
Product differentiation maybe.
5DIV is great for this type of photography, 6DII will be great for other things.
Different gear for different types of photography.
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canonographer said:
(Presuming the 6D2 is indeed an SLR and not mirrorless...)
Focus peaking off the back LCD, effectively manually focusing in liveview 12" from your face is a fail. Taking stills with MF through liveview has the ergonomic sensibilities of taking cell phone pictures ...with your cell phone taped to a brick. The same is true of those who say FF mirrorless isn't needed: "just switch to liveview on your SLR and it's mirrorless - presto!".
In both FF mirrorless or FF SLR manual focus lens work, I want to hold a camera like a camera and use the viewfinder (be it EVF or OVF). Being relegated to LiveView framing and holding the camera away from your face like a cell phone is less comfortable, less stable and less satisfying, IMHO.
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Luds34 said:
I agree on the AF, but the lack of a tilty-flippy screen is a massive feature hole in the FF lineup. Nikon has it in the D750 (and surely in the D610 follow up), Sony has it on all 'II' versions of their A7 rigs, and it just makes perfect sense for Canon to have one with its great video AF.
A tilty-flippy is simply needed somewhere in all these FF bodies, and the 6D2 (as the enthusiast's champion) would appear to be that body. Make the great 'full-frame 80D' the people want, I say.
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KiagiJ said:
So you hate your 1DX2 because the 5D4 sensor has catched up to it? Sounds like you know what photography is about
, i certainly see why you invest 4500 $$ into a camera to boost your photography ~~.
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hbr said:
I know the current 6d while a great camera is not a jack of all trades. But i think it should be. Just a lesser jack than the 5d series. I would really love the IQ of full frame but withiut the budget for a 5d4 and withiut the desire to give up the resolution a 7d2 would provide for wildlife i have no other option. A 5d3 while sweet would not be better than a 7d2 for me due to the loss of resolution when cropping as is mandatory with wildlife. Its images would generally be no better than a crop sensor could provide. But IF the 6d has 28mp and something like an 80d AF system which is passable for wildlife it ciuld be a good way for canon to drag me into FF territory. I have little doubt that would eventually see me spend up on more full frame lenses and in the long run get a better body that could use those lenses.i am not one of those asking for a 5d at a 6d price. I don't need the 4k. Would even be happy without an articulating screen if it saved cost(although i have little doubt it will have one). 6fps would be acceptable too if they want to differentiate from the 5d series. But a jack of all trades would be the best way to make people jump the gap from crop to FF.
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If this rumour will be near to the truth in regard to the specs, then the price cannot be sub 2000$. I think, the 6DII will replace the 6D and the 5DIII with a price in the Region of the 5DIII, so that in the end there will be no Canon-"Entry-Level" FF-DSLR. Compared to the 5DIV the prizes of the 5DS/5DSr and 6D far are too low. May be, at the end of the ear we will have only four Canon-FF DSLR's
1DxII 6000€
1DSr 6000€ (replacement of the 5DS and 5DSr)
5DIV 4000€
6DII 2500€ (replacement of the 5DIII and 6D)
I purchased just now a 6D. It was always a bargain and I think we will never again see such an inexpensive Canon FF-Body.
1DxII 6000€
1DSr 6000€ (replacement of the 5DS and 5DSr)
5DIV 4000€
6DII 2500€ (replacement of the 5DIII and 6D)
I purchased just now a 6D. It was always a bargain and I think we will never again see such an inexpensive Canon FF-Body.
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Interesting to see how a lot of people are daydreaming about 80D like AF capabilities, fps like crazy, exorbitant price increases (because of fancy spec speculations) etc. Just a lot to feel let down about after the camera's presentation... :-\
There will be a reason why the camera costs less than a 5D mk IV. I guess it will be excellent for stills and may be have some proper video capabilities (perhaps even 4k, though i dont't expect that) due to the flippy screen. That's it. For Sports you better keep using your 70/80D, 7D/mk II or 1DX/mk II's, for wildlife at it's best similarly.
There will be a reason why the camera costs less than a 5D mk IV. I guess it will be excellent for stills and may be have some proper video capabilities (perhaps even 4k, though i dont't expect that) due to the flippy screen. That's it. For Sports you better keep using your 70/80D, 7D/mk II or 1DX/mk II's, for wildlife at it's best similarly.
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AF is relative though. 80d AF is nothing out of the ordinary nowadays and could be implemented at a reasonable price. 19 point AF though is now quite the standout due to it being so outdated. 7d2, 5d4 and 1d style af is another matter entirely and will not be included in an entry level ff untill something far better is produced. FAR better. If they could implement that in a camera body at 3k(Australian ) they would have a really nice setup. Hell. I would even be happy with 26mp if they wanted a bigger difference with the 5d4. Ditch the wifi. No nfc. No gps. Get rid of it all and just give me a good camera for taking photos at a reasonable price. 5k for the 5d4 in Australia is just way to much.
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