3kramd5 said:I suspect that's a pipe dream. On sensor PDAF isn't yet on par with dedicated PDAF.
dream on. Next Sony (A9) AF will run circles around any mirrorslapper
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3kramd5 said:I suspect that's a pipe dream. On sensor PDAF isn't yet on par with dedicated PDAF.
WillT said:Wow those are some impressive stats on paper. Lets see how this will compares to the M5 in the real world.
ahsanford said:Sony steps on the gas in the APS-C mirrorless space:
https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/06/sony-reveals-the-a6500-its-new-e-mount-mirrorless-flagship/
(Paging AvTvM to say 'Stupid Canon' in 3, 2, 1...)
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Tugela said:This is a direct response to the competition posed by the EOS-M5.ahsanford said:Sony steps on the gas in the APS-C mirrorless space:
https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/06/sony-reveals-the-a6500-its-new-e-mount-mirrorless-flagship/
(Paging AvTvM to say 'Stupid Canon' in 3, 2, 1...)
3kramd5 said:xps said:Yes, Sony fanboys rumor these specs. And an superfast AF system with an equal AF system like the A99 Version II has. I´ve focussed with the A99 Version II and the AF was really fast.
I suspect that's a pipe dream. On sensor PDAF isn't yet on par with dedicated PDAF.
ahsanford said:Dylan777 said:Looks rock solid. M5 $979 Vs A6500 $1399 = willing to pay the different?
Can't wait to see A9 specs, rumors saying 70MP @ 20fps?
Non-FF mirrorless prices are all over the place. Sony can be reasonable, Canon is inflated and then the price crashes down, Fuji is pricey as hell, Panasonic's new GH5 is sitting around $1900 and the crazy new Olympus E-M1 Mark II is rumored to be announced for $2,200!
Said another way: m43 rigs are costing more than a Pentax K1, Canon 6D or Nikon D610!
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AvTvM said:Tugela said:This is a direct response to the competition posed by the EOS-M5.ahsanford said:Sony steps on the gas in the APS-C mirrorless space:
https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/06/sony-reveals-the-a6500-its-new-e-mount-mirrorless-flagship/
(Paging AvTvM to say 'Stupid Canon' in 3, 2, 1...)
Well, A6500 is what A6300 should have been from the start (IBIS + touchscreen + very good AF + 350 shot battery life).
Just as Canon M3 should already have come with M5 specs. :
xps said:I had no comparison to other cams, when I did so. But for me, it was fast.3kramd5 said:xps said:Yes, Sony fanboys rumor these specs. And an superfast AF system with an equal AF system like the A99 Version II has. I´ve focussed with the A99 Version II and the AF was really fast.
I suspect that's a pipe dream. On sensor PDAF isn't yet on par with dedicated PDAF.
AvTvM said:3kramd5 said:I suspect that's a pipe dream. On sensor PDAF isn't yet on par with dedicated PDAF.
dream on. Next Sony (A9) AF will run circles around any mirrorslapper
Tugela said:It is just a matter of time. Processors continue to improve and once they are capable of handling more nodes at once they will be better. Dedicated AF systems such as those used on DSLRs have their limits, but on sensor detectors are just getting started. For them the sky is the limit.
Tugela said:Not really. The A6300 was released in response to competition as well, and the extra features may not have been ready at an engineering level at that point. Simply not releasing the A6300 at that time would have meant conceding market to competition, so they used what was practical at that point.
The same argument applies to the EOS-M cameras. It is all driven by competition and what the engineers can do practically at any given point in time.
The same thing applies to the M5 btw.
AvTvM said:Tugela said:Not really. The A6300 was released in response to competition as well, and the extra features may not have been ready at an engineering level at that point. Simply not releasing the A6300 at that time would have meant conceding market to competition, so they used what was practical at that point.
The same argument applies to the EOS-M cameras. It is all driven by competition and what the engineers can do practically at any given point in time.
The same thing applies to the M5 btw.
I am sick and tired of some people her always *excusing excusing excusing* those f*cking imaging corporations withholding functionality from their expensive products all the time.
Ryananthony said:AvTvM said:Tugela said:Not really. The A6300 was released in response to competition as well, and the extra features may not have been ready at an engineering level at that point. Simply not releasing the A6300 at that time would have meant conceding market to competition, so they used what was practical at that point.
The same argument applies to the EOS-M cameras. It is all driven by competition and what the engineers can do practically at any given point in time.
The same thing applies to the M5 btw.
I am sick and tired of some people her always *excusing excusing excusing* those f*cking imaging corporations withholding functionality from their expensive products all the time.
I am sick and tired of your posts
AvTvM said:Tugela said:Not really. The A6300 was released in response to competition as well, and the extra features may not have been ready at an engineering level at that point. Simply not releasing the A6300 at that time would have meant conceding market to competition, so they used what was practical at that point.
The same argument applies to the EOS-M cameras. It is all driven by competition and what the engineers can do practically at any given point in time.
The same thing applies to the M5 btw.
utterly ridiculous. Touchscreen DIsplays were invented 100 years ago or so and used in any number of Sony cameras prior to A6300. they could have stuck that thing into A6300, no problem. Same with IBIS. AF took a better processor/improved firmware, hardware. But all the rest could and should have been in 6300 already.
Same for EOS M5 .. everything in it could easily have been in M3 ... 80D sensor was out a long time already.
I am sick and tired of some people her always *excusing excusing excusing* those f*cking imaging corporations withholding functionality from their expensive products all the time. Nerfing and crippling all day long. While they may profit from it financially in the short term, because so many people are so stupid, it is not somethign we should accept or excuse as informed customers.