Thanks Adorama and Helen Oster !

Don Haines said:
Mt Spokane Photography said:
tolusina said:
Don Haines said:
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We had a FedEx order that went from New York to Atlanta to London to Atlanta to London to Atlanta to London to Atlanta to Montreal to Ottawa..........
That's pathetically humorous.
Sounds like some clerk in Atlanta had never heard of London, ON, and again........

Maybe they thought it was London ON (the Thames)? I think that they have operators who create a routing bar code that gets affixed to a parcel. From then on, that bar code directs the package, so it can create a mess if everyone involved just ignores the need to fix the issue.
It was never supposed to go anywhere near London Ontario...... that's what made 3 side trips across the Atlantic to London, England so much more puzzling...

the point is, you can't hold the store (B+H or Adorama) responsible for the incompetence of the courier....

I agree, but they can reimburse your payment or send a replacement and then (presumably) file a claim for a lost item with the carrier or their insurance. Some find it less expensive to self insure with insurance coverage for catastrophic loss. The place I used to work did that, loses had to exceed hundreds of millions before insurance cut in.
 
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Sigh... Here in the UK, eugh, I can't do it. I felt my mood drop by about 72 awesomeness points just thinking about joining in this conversation!

Strangely, as an occasional ebay seller and generally independent human being I find our standard national 'Post Office' to offer near perfect service - and would honestly say no fewer than 99% of packages delivered by other corporate couriers (Citylink, DHL and UPS all being offenders) have been linked with major inconveniences, lies, avoidance of delivery to domestic addresses during office hours to save time, insisting packages are still en route and strategically refusing to contact drivers or phone-monkies' superiors until it's "too late to act now"...

I've managed to swing things in my own favour (after finding myself in unfavourable positions) by threatening to invoice couriers for my hours outside of agreed terms, questioning the legality of their behaviours and demonstrating eagerness to have individuals or the companies punished or defamed, or pushing guilt trips... I never feel I'm being unethical though - and this can lead to both having items be delivered "after hours" and having respectable freelance drivers be called in to clock up some very well paid hours - as I was told after trying to apologise to the freelancer having to deliver late once, who in turn thanked me for the work!

Couriers are cretins... Well, the guys sat in the offices, really, not the overworked drivers who are given more work than is realistically doable and need legislation to stop them being abused further...

Amazon, Apple.. They work with the most pathetic of these couriers, eeeurgh..

Have fun tracking down real phone numbers for the depots, too - and don't forget to publish them online for everyone else to see if you're lucky enough to get 'em ;)
 
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Khufu said:
Sigh... Here in the UK, eugh, I can't do it. I felt my mood drop by about 72 awesomeness points just thinking about joining in this conversation!

Have fun tracking down real phone numbers for the depots, too - and don't forget to publish them online for everyone else to see if you're lucky enough to get 'em ;)

My local UPS manager called me and gave me the direct phone number so I could call and straighten out any issues without going thru the horrible chain of command. We live in a medium size city, and a friendly one as well. I have had virtually no issues with the 4,000 parcels a year I've shipped. I'm now experimenting with Fulfilled by Amazon, I just sent several boxes of product to three Amazon Depots and they take care of everything(at a price).

I have a monopoly on my product, except that I do have some wholesale customers, so there is no competition on Amazon selling anything like it. I have it custom made in China for me. By the time Amazon extracts their fees, I only get 20% more than my wholesale price though.
 
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henryp said:
sagittariansrock said:
I had a bad experience with UPS and B&H's response was disappointing. I was at home all day to receive the 6D + Pro-10 and at 4.30 I receive an email saying UPS tried to deliver at 2.30, but I wasn't at home...B&H's response was lukewarm, but at least they filed a claim right away.
I am sorry you were dissatisfied. I do not know when this took place but I'd be happy to look into it for you. Email order info to me at henryp[at]bhphoto.com

I was disappointed at the moment, but I received the package afterwards and notified Customer care about it thereafter.
Thanks for following up on this forum.
 
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