The Answer to Everyone's Complaints

[Deleted member 91053]

Oh no! What do I do?
I don't have any complaints!

complain about not having any complaints? ???

Or I could sell up and buy Nikon!
Having tried out quite a few of their offerings I could start a whole new complaints thread!

 

[NancyP]

Dear Unfocused, you need to misspell a few more words if you want your Nigerian post to be "authentic"- looking.

See - I can complain about something OTHER than Canon. ;

 

[Aglet]

Aw jeez, I already gave over $20k to my LCS to REWARD Sony, Nikon, Pentax, Fuji and Olympus for their outstanding R&D work resulting in high performing products that meet my needs.

 

[sagittariansrock]

Aw jeez, I already gave over $20k to my LCS to REWARD Sony, Nikon, Pentax, Fuji and Olympus for their outstanding R&D work resulting in high performing products that meet my needs.

Aglet, you surprise me. Here's why:
When I got fed up with PCs, I just ditched them and started using Macs.
In your case, a person with an iota of sense would ditch Canon and just use Nikon et al. And frequent Nikon forums from then on. Not just talking about you, there are a bunch of similar people here.
However, you all just complain about Canon gear, probably at the expense of doing something useful. Occasionally you make some good points- I am not saying there's nothing to complain, as is true for any company.
But my question is, why bother?
I don't want to change the mood of this funny thread (sorry, OP)- but I am really curious. Care to enlighten me?

 

[Aglet]

..probably at the expense of doing something useful.

Aww, man, you are SO right about that! Sincerely.

But my question is, why bother?

I've not spent a lot of time on here for a while but came back recently only to find a lot of the same going on by a many of the same characters. Sort of a study in web-forum psychology..

But, kind of like playing a pinball machine, I had to come back to deliver a smackdown.

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=21022.240

I'll try take your suggestion and go do something more useful now, some things just can't be fixed/aren't worth the continued effort.

EDIT: FWIW, i still do have and use a fair bit of Canon gear and am waiting for a 7d2, if it's worth buying. If not, I'll be dumping the rest of my high end Canon stuff, keeping the old stuff that works well and continue with ABC cameras (anybody but canon)

 

[sagittariansrock]

..probably at the expense of doing something useful.

Aww, man, you are SO right about that! Sincerely.

No need for sarcasm. I really meant it. I have learned a lot from this particular forum (and that has partly to do with the fact that most people in all photo forums are helpful, and some very knowledgeable, and partly to do with the fact that this is a Canon site and all my gear is Canon).
So spending my time on a Nikon forum will be tantamount to wasting my time (whatever my time is worth). That is what I meant.

 

[Sella174]

If you are unhappy with Canon's perceived failure to offer (choose any of the following) high megapixel body, mirrorless full frame camera, more dynamic range, shadow detail) I propose the following:

Send me a check or Pay Pal me $2,000 as a deposit, telling me what feature you want improved.

Too late. I already gave it to FUJIFILM.

After you and 50,000 of your like-minded friends have sent me these checks, I will forward the money to Canon as a deposit for them to use in developing the camera feature you want. It is no guarantee they will comply, but I suspect the fact that 50,000 people have demonstrated a willingness to place a $2,000 down payment on the camera of their choice, will indeed get Canon's attention.

I am pretty sure that world-wide 50000 people have already bought an Olympus, Panasonic, FUJIFILM and/or Sony camera, instead of buying a new Canon camera. It apparently did not "get Canon's attention" as we're classed a minority and a niche market - even though it's worth $100 million. Gulp! That's a niche market with negligible revenue!?

Basically, you must put your money where your mouth is. This has the added advantage of demonstrating whether or not there is a demand for the features you find so significant.

As stated above ... my mouth-money was placed into a FUJIFILM X-T1 camera.

If, after two years, any account has not reached the threshhold of 50,000 participants, I will refund the money minus a small handling fee.

I did a similar thing with my Canon lenses when Canon didn't produce the goods ... I sold 'em.

 

[AcutancePhotography]

And frequent Nikon forums from then on.

I haunt both Canon and Nikon forums. And from a purely entertainment standpoint Canon Rumors is the best. It is frequently like watching a train wreck. On the Nikion Rumors forum, it is kinda dull. People ask questions and other people answer them. Educational, but hardly entertaining. For the most yucks and ruefull head shaking, Canon Rumors is the go to forum on the Internets Tubes .

 

[mackguyver]

Too late. I already gave it to FUJIFILM.

You are a wise man indeed, among us fools.

 

[surapon]

Dear Sir, Mr. unfocused.
Sorry, I love my EOS-M and do not have any complaints about Canon Products or Company( As Mr. Dylan777 our friend said)----But Only thing that I do not like = My slow brain and Low ARTISTIC ability that can produce the Masterpiece of Photos. Sorry, My dear Mom and my dear Dad have been pass a way for 15 years, and I do not have a chance to learn from them any more.
By the way, Please do not worry about Money, I just get the FAX. from my dear Nigerian friend, The President of the Nigerian Bank, who will Wire 45 Millions US Dollars direct to your account with in 7 days, No -this is the Truth, No Your Bank account require, Just Send Your Beautiful Wife's Photo, Her Address, Her private Cellular Phone Number, And My dear Nigerian Friend will contact her the details of Money Transfer. The Good new that my Dear Nigerian friend already have 86 Wifes, And the 86 Numbers in Nigeria is the Unlucky number. He just want NUMBER 87 wife to control the Trouble of previous 86 ladies in his big family.
I love your post----Thousand thanks for let all of us HAVE FUN, and have creative thinking about our complaints.
Sorry, No your wife's Photos = No 45 millions US Dollars for you.
Surapon

PS, That the real Photo of my friend, Nigerian Mohammed Bello Abubakar, 84, has advised other men not to follow his example and marry 86 women.-----86 Wife is unlucky number.

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[zim]

Thought he looked a bit tired

 

[surapon]

Thought he looked a bit tired

Ha, Ha, Ha---Dear Zim, No comment from me----Ha, Ha, Ha.

 

[sagittariansrock]

If you are unhappy with Canon's perceived failure to offer (choose any of the following) high megapixel body, mirrorless full frame camera, more dynamic range, shadow detail) I propose the following:

Send me a check or Pay Pal me $2,000 as a deposit, telling me what feature you want improved.

Too late. I already gave it to FUJIFILM.

Here comes another one... :

 

[sagittariansrock]

And frequent Nikon forums from then on.

I haunt both Canon and Nikon forums. And from a purely entertainment standpoint Canon Rumors is the best. It is frequently like watching a train wreck. On the Nikion Rumors forum, it is kinda dull. People ask questions and other people answer them. Educational, but hardly entertaining. For the most yucks and ruefull head shaking, Canon Rumors is the go to forum on the Internets Tubes .

Interesting. So are people always satisfied with Nikon or do they just move on if not satisfied?
I've seen you contribute positively on these forums so I understand your standpoint- watch a little fun, help a couple of guys, ask some questions. We all do that.
But to frequent a forum just for complaining about gear I don't use- that's just weird to the point of borderline sociopathy.

 

[mackguyver]

But to frequent a forum just for complaining about gear I don't use- that's just weird to the point of borderline sociopathy.

+1M, and to add to that, complaining about:
- MP when you never print your photos,
- DR when you don't shoot RAW and/or know how to process your photos
- Snob Canon's best lenses over a 2% better lens,
- High ISO performance when you only shoot outdoors at Noon
- Camera size when there are about a million choices
- Other people's work when you don't even shoot or suck yourself

 

[sagittariansrock]

But to frequent a forum just for complaining about gear I don't use- that's just weird to the point of borderline sociopathy.

+1M, and to add to that, complaining about:
- MP when you never print your photos,
- DR when you don't shoot RAW and/or know how to process your photos
- Snob Canon's best lenses over a 2% better lens,
- High ISO performance when you only shoot outdoors at Noon
- Camera size when there are about a million choices
- Other people's work when you don't even shoot or suck yourself

;D ;D ;D

 

[dstppy]

And frequent Nikon forums from then on.

I haunt both Canon and Nikon forums. And from a purely entertainment standpoint Canon Rumors is the best. It is frequently like watching a train wreck. On the Nikion Rumors forum, it is kinda dull. People ask questions and other people answer them. Educational, but hardly entertaining. For the most yucks and ruefull head shaking, Canon Rumors is the go to forum on the Internets Tubes .

Interesting. So are people always satisfied with Nikon or do they just move on if not satisfied?
I've seen you contribute positively on these forums so I understand your standpoint- watch a little fun, help a couple of guys, ask some questions. We all do that.
But to frequent a forum just for complaining about gear I don't use- that's just weird to the point of borderline sociopathy.

That's because they're ALL HERE trolling us. Since the 5Dmk3, 1Dx and 70D came out, I sound like a total fanboy, but I'm not (I recommend people buy whichever system their friends shoot) . . .

I count myself blessed because I no longer feel I have to have every lens, and I've gotten hold of the concept that I have to sell old stuff before getting new stuff, so I'm happy with what I want and what I can get.

I just don't get the epic whining and crying about this and that.

 

[sagittariansrock]

Since the 5Dmk3, 1Dx and 70D came out, I sound like a total fanboy, but I'm not (I recommend people buy whichever system their friends shoot) . . .

+1. A friend asked me yesterday which one to get between the 1200D and the D3200, and I advised her to get the Nikon based on the specs, the fact that Nikon APS-Cs are better in low light, and the 35/1.8 will be great for taking pictures of her little daughter indoors.

 

[mackguyver]

Since the 5Dmk3, 1Dx and 70D came out, I sound like a total fanboy, but I'm not (I recommend people buy whichever system their friends shoot) . . .

+1. A friend asked me yesterday which one to get between the 1200D and the D3200, and I advised her to get the Nikon based on the specs, the fact that Nikon APS-Cs are better in low light, and the 35/1.8 will be great for taking pictures of her little daughter indoors.

+2 - the big brands all have great gear these days - I just happen to like Canon's the best. Speaking of which, I bought my 1D X after using a D4, and I'm sure I would be equally happy (and equally poor) with a set of Nikon gear.

 

[Random Orbits]

Interesting. So are people always satisfied with Nikon or do they just move on if not satisfied?

Nikon has its own issues. A lot of people question the execution of the Df, oil/sensor issues, green tinted displays, liveview deficiencies, etc.

With Canon, it's usually low ISO DR and a lack of killer UWA zooms. Hopefully, the latter is being remedied with the 16-35 f/4 IS, and we'll have to wait for the next body release cycle to see how Canon has addressed the former. Bodies are replaced every few years, but lenses have a much longer life. For FF, Canon's lens lineup is hard to beat, and the recent releases show a promising future of improvements. For APS-C, Nikon has a more complete lineup, but most APS-C users do stay with the kit lenses.

People say that now is the golden age of photography and seeing the exponential increase in number of photos taken, it's hard to disagree with that. However, a larger market is not aways a good thing for manufacturers. Competition can be more intense and margins/total profitability can fall. It may be a boon to one that does not heavily invest in any company's products, but for those that do, a company's long term profitability can be a concern.