The Canon EOS R5 Mark II – We have now seen it

Why such a concentration on megapixels? Assuming you mean the 1D X III, that was only 20 MP (same as its predecessor and only 2 MP more than the 1D X), and it seemed to be fine with sports photographers.

And if you really meant the 1DIII as you wrote, that was only 10 MP and 10 fps...and also seemed to be fine with sports photographers.

Why is it that when an improvement is in a metric they don't personally care about, people say the camera is crippled? Grow up. :rolleyes:
You were doing great until the "Grow up"
 
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to answer your 14/1.4 while it may come out, it's very difficult to get perfect coma in the corners with a very fast lens, and have it be a reasonable price.
You said new wide RF zoom coming out in 2024 or early 2025. Will this be a successor to the RF 15-35 f/2.8? Or Canon be able to shrink the size to make the PowerZoom 15-35 more compact than the current 15-35?
Will we perhaps also see an updated RF 24-70 f/2.8 Z or an updated RF 24-105 f/4?
Sorry for all those questions but an updated RF lens roadmap with likely releases up until the end of 2025 would be highly appreciated! Maybe it'll shake the rumor tree and give us something new down the line :D

Also, do you still think that the R5 II will have built-in GPS?
 
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We're not going to use the “R” word, but bravo.
After looking at the new informations (heatpipes etc.) and having watched the video from ordinary filmmaker, I wonder, if the "bravo" mainly applies to those wanting to upgrade from an R5C?

Can you say if those of us, who prefer shooting stills, are also going to be "WOWed" by the mark II or will it be more of a nice-to-have-but-nothing-special for photo-shooters?
 
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how did you like the dual OS on the R5C?
I’m not OP but I love the R5C and the two operating systems. I do photo and video and it is truly like having an R5 and a C70 in the same body. I think it’s brilliant and it has never let me down. I wish AF was a bit stickier in video and that there was more AF customization for non-RF lenses but I am happy just the way it is. If the R5 Mark II has the cinema menu it’s an instant buy for me… though I fear it won’t have it.
 
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I’m not OP but I love the R5C and the two operating systems. I do photo and video and it is truly like having an R5 and a C70 in the same body. I think it’s brilliant and it has never let me down. I wish AF was a bit stickier in video and that there was more AF customization for non-RF lenses but I am happy just the way it is. If the R5 Mark II has the cinema menu it’s an instant buy for me… though I fear it won’t have it.

As long as the two teams are a bit more aligned on the hardware side of things... That can't be an easy thing to do though. It took Canon a while during the PIXMA/ImagePROGRAF fun times.
 
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Agreed that it could have been done with firmware (though at least Canon was upfront about saying pre-2024 cameras would not support it and IIRC, they have not said it it would ever be usable for stills).

Still, I'm not sure what use I'd have for continuously variable (click-less) aperture changes with stills photography. I expect it would/should just round the value to the nearest 1/3-stop (or 1/2, depending on settings) value...and in that case, I'm already used changing the aperture with the main dial on the camera.

The aperture can vary smoothly in video mode, and it would be cool to have that as an option in photo mode. I would use it mainly so that I can map the control ring to exposure comp instead of aperture.

Canon did tell Petapixel that it will work in stills photo in future cameras: https://petapixel.com/2023/11/01/ca...st-24-105mm-f-2-8-lens-and-it-can-power-zoom/

It is also the first Canon RF lens with a manual aperture control ring. However, Canon explains that this will not work with still photography functions on “current” camera bodies but will work with future products in 2024 and later, whatever those products may be.
 
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After having asked for the 6th time (if I counted correctly) without getting an answer, could you please at least be so kind to tell all non-X users what CanonRumors meant with the word "both" in his answer. I figure one refers to the built-in GPS but what is the other thing?
I'm sorry! I never meant to annoy anyone with these questions I simply assumed that he probably missed my question so I asked again. He could've also seen it and deliberately decided not to answer but I wouldn't really understand why he'd do that after speaking about this topic on X.

Anyway. Here is the context you asked for :) I hope that helps. And sorry once again!
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I owned and recently sold my R5. I gave up on Canon and purchased a Sony A9iii for wildlife photos. The sensor is a global sensor that is as large as the idx mk ii camera I once owned. It has Zebras, Ai modeling for birds, planes, insects, people etc and pre-capture plus 120 fps with sony lenses, 30 fps with canon ef lenses. I'm pleased.
 
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This has been done to death. The hybrid shooter market is significant, and selling more of a model means the price is actually lower. The 'pure photography' Nikon Df was quite similar to the D610, but cost more.
To add to this point, a stills only camera has to cost more, as the manufacturer knows in this market they will sell LESS of them, and therefore need a higher margin per unit in order for it to make sense for them to do that. Nothing in electronics is sold on intrinsic value (the cost of the parts/features). Its sold on perceived value to the user and number of units of demand.
They already crippled the R1 (if the rumors are true) by making it only a 24mp camera. Why such a concentration on speed? The 1D3 was only around 14 fps and it seemed to be fine with sports photographers. Spraying and praying seems ridiculous. I'm shooting airshow on occasion and I don't need that much speed. I'd rather have 16 bit, 15 stops or more of dynamic range, and more resolution. But thats me.
Really, it is just you. 45mp is a lot for sports shooters. Many of whom take thousands of images during an event, but never 'spray and pray'. Its about isolating that one fleeting moment. And to do that you have to anticipate, start firing a burst, and hope you get the 'perfect' frame. Going from 14 to 20 to 30 fps makes a big difference. In a 90min match that I shoot, I may take 3000 frames, covering about 60-70 visible, meaningful plays, and end up with about 50 images that are 'best of the best' for distribution. I'm using the R5 this season, and it really slows down the workflow due to file size. I get some limited value on maybe 20% of those images for cropping, but still 45mp is too much. The 20mp of the R6 was plenty enough. R3 would be great, and I may side-grade (from a MP standpoint) the R6 i still have up to that when the R1 comes out and prices hopefully drop. Keep the R5 for wildlife and landscapes.

Brian
 
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It is disconcerting to hear that there is unlikely to be an R5C. The thing that makes the R5C useful to me is not necessarily the cooling, although that is required, but the cinema OS. I doubt Canon would release a general purpose camera like the R5II with the cinema OS, so I am guessing the R5C line is about to go the way of the 1DC line and be a one off.
Bring on the full frame RF mount cinema camera!
I agree with this. Owning the FX3 and R5 C and loving both for different reasons, I'll say that Cinema OS is one of two nicer advantages the R5 C has over the FX3 in video terms. That said, I'm not bothered by the potential lack of Cinema OS—as long as the sensor can be leveraged to its full potential when shooting in video mode and gets good codecs/bitrates, that's all I really care about. I assume that Cinema OS is the foundation of they accomplished that on the R5 C, so I guess we'll see.

But if Canon wants to make this a hybrid camera, they need to give us some threaded mounting points on the body itself. Janky cages are only janky because one point of connection is simply not enough for a rigid build. Can't stand how much any rigged out R5 C cage flexes with a top handle and heavy lens attached.
 
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But if Canon wants to make this a hybrid camera, they need to give us some threaded mounting points on the body itself.
Could happen. It weirds me out to see the open and threaded holes on my 24-105/2.8 Z, but they're there for the LH-E1 rig attachment accessory (and other holes along with exposed contacts for the PZ drive).
 
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I owned and recently sold my R5. I gave up on Canon and purchased a Sony A9iii for wildlife photos. The sensor is a global sensor that is as large as the idx mk ii camera I once owned. It has Zebras, Ai modeling for birds, planes, insects, people etc and pre-capture plus 120 fps with sony lenses, 30 fps with canon ef lenses. I'm pleased.
...so?
 
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Man this is so upsetting for me..
The Canon 6D has built in WiFi and GPS and the screen is larger than the R5’s and the FX3’s!

I’ve always appreciated canon however, no R5c Mk.2 ?
If the R5 doesn’t have a cinema menu with those cinema options and codecs its making me want to switch to Sony.

The cooling system makes the camera huge and chunkier than the R5c and probably a lot heavier.. there is so much that could have been done to accommodate the heat correctly. It seems like a “slap and fix”

This really sucks..
I am really hoping cinema OS or some kind of form of it is on the R5 mk.2

By this point 4K HQ should not overheat.. at all..

Oh yea and the Canon 6D doesn’t have a 60 minute record limit..
Wtf is going on!? Lol
 
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I'd say that's silly to even think that would happen. That's totally a cinema camera thing and would require the camera to grow.
If the R5 Mark II is to be marketed as a hybrid camera, having internal ND filters would be a huge selling point. This was one of the reasons the C70 did so well, and why many people chose it over the R5C. Plus, it's not just videographers who would benefit - landscape and portrait photographers would too. There are already patents showing how it could work in an R5 body. Honestly, it can't be that hard to do, especially when even the Fuji X100V has an internal ND filter, right?
 
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