The Canon EOS R6 Mark II will be announced on November 2, 2022

[Deleted member 381342]

Second gen R6 and still no R1? Time is ticking Canon. Falling behind the competition again.

The R3 is a fantastic camera. I would have no issues using it instead of a Nikon Z9. The major differences between them is if you want more pixels or less pixels... personally I would have preferred the Z9 stuck with the 24 MP range too.

 

[jdavidse]

I have to admit I'm confused by this. Apart from the extra megapixels, it doesn't sound like a big change.

It also seems strange to be updating the "baby brother" without a similar bump to the R5 - weren't they were originally released together?

The R6 was plagued by lock-ups and the hotshoe falling off. These are two things that are really bad for wedding photographers. My guess is these fixes are the biggest “features” of the R6 II, though they would never be mentioned in a spec sheet

 

[GMAX]

When Canon presents the R5 "S" next, I'm satisfied until the release of the R1

 

[schmidtfilme]

I would like GPS to return. The 6D II had it.

 

[koenkooi]

I would like GPS to return. The 6D II had it.

I very much doubt we'll see built-in GPS outside of built-in grip cameras (R3 and the rumoured R1). But it is one of the things that would make me consider upgrading from my R5 to a newer 40-or-more MP model.

 

[cary]

Does this mean the camera is already in the hands of reviewers and we'll be getting simultaneous YouTube reviews dropping on Wednesday? Fuji is also announcing its X-T5 on November 2nd. It's going to be a packed day.

 

[Uneternal]

I think the unusual release cycle (usually 4 years) points to a rushed decision. The R6 honestly has some underwhelming specs against Sony's A7IV, mainly people will instantly spot 13 megapixels less and ask themselves why they should pay the same for an otherwise more or less similar spec'd camera.
I wouldn't be surprised if Canon put the R3 sensor in order to save development and production time. Put it in the same housing, put a firmware update, and there you go: R6 Mark II.
There were rumors of another 30 MP model on the horizon, but probably the development or production of the sensor is simply not ready yet.

 

[TonyG]

Canon has sold more ILCs than any of their competitors every year for the last two decades. Last year, they sold more than twice as many ILCs as #2 Sony, and more than Sony, Nikon, Fuji and Panasonic combined.

Oh, you mean falling behind in making the camera you personally want. No one but you cares. Go buy a camera from one of the competitors you think are so far ahead. Then go troll their rumors forum instead.

That is not true in regard to mirrorless ILC's
I think the R6ii will be the one to switch a lot of dslr shooters over to the mirrorless market.

 

[TonyG]

When Canon presents the R5 "S" next, I'm satisfied until the release of the R1

I think the R5s might be the next camera to be announced.
Canon Rumors Guy hinted: "Another R5 series is camera is coming, but it's not an R5 Mark II."

 

[Sporgon]

That is not true in regard to mirrorless ILC's
I think the R6ii will be the one to switch a lot of dslr shooters over to the mirrorless market.

Yes I think you may be right there. If the R6II means a few R6 s going cheap I might buy one

 

[koenkooi]

That is not true in regard to mirrorless ILC's [..]

Do you actually mean mirrorless ILCs or do you mean full-frame mirrorless ILCs instead?

 

[LSXPhotog]

Something is probably wrong with the R6 for this fast minor update. I just know on the original R6 the photo to video switching is crappy, i heard it still overheats, and there is no unlimited recording. I would hope those things are ironed out. Maybe it is more profitable to just make an updated version vs just a firmware fix.

It’s my only explanation as well. The R6 may have something incorporated into its design that physically prevents it from getting better performance. The lack of custom video functions for me and the wildly different color are what ultimately led me to selling mine. I used mine primarily for real estate photography and gimbal work and it was absolutely fantastic for me. However, if I introduced my R5 or R3 into that mix then I could never get the video to match and even photos could be a challenge to bring into the same “look” on occasion.

 

[ShowMeTheEagles]

I have to admit I'm confused by this. Apart from the extra megapixels, it doesn't sound like a big change.

It also seems strange to be updating the "baby brother" without a similar bump to the R5 - weren't they were originally released together?

It doesn't seem that "strange" to me. The R5 is still a solid camera in both the R lineup and against it's competition. Despite some FW bungling of late, Canon has continued to update it to keep it relevant. It can easily go another year, year and a half, before getting an update -- which I think it will. I doubt we'll see the R5 II until well after the R1 ships because the R5 II will likely borrow a lot from the R1. As an R5 user and probably not an R1 buyer, I'm happy w/ not seeing an R5 until 2024, assuming this is the case.

The R6, OTOH, became little lost in both the R lineup and the competition as a lower resolution body when the R7 was released. A lot of R6's initial buyers were enthusiasts that wanted more than an R but just didn't want to, or could not plunk down $3700 for the R5. Of course, there were also pros that were perfectly happy with lower resolution because it aided in processing and keeping storage costs reasonable.

But with the R7's intro, enthusiasts had the new choice of a MP $1500 body. Sure, crop sensor, but in many genres that's even desirable or a non-factor. And even for the pros who initially bought into the R6, 20mp these days for a mid-level body is low. (Not to mention that Nikon is rumored to be reading the Z6 III, presumably with AF borrowed from the Z9). So the R6 II will address that issue to rejuvenate it and also spread some distance between the R7 and R6 choices.

 

[danfaz]

Good point about the R5C. Still feels weird they're on different cycles.

Historically the 5 and 6 series don't get released at the same time, with exception of 6D and 5DIII in 2012, but even then they were 8 months apart:

View by period - Canon Camera Museum

View Canon's cameras in chronological order.

global.canon

 

[rpiotr01]

The R6 is an extremely good camera, and the only real reason why it "needs" updating is the perceived notion that 20MP isn't good enough, i.e. not as big a number as the sensors is Nikon and Sony competitors. I doubt very much if anyone will notice any difference in real terms between the 20MP sensor of the R6 and the 24MP sensor of the R6 Mkii.

Yes this is me. I admit it without shame. Likely wouldn't notice the difference between the current R6 sensor and 5DIII but it would annoy me knowing it's there. Man is a creature that feels emotion when he purchases things, Canon (and all other businesses worth a darn) knows this well and will probably make a couple thousand bucks off of me for the little MP bump.

 

[SnowMiku]

It will be interesting to see the real specs once it's announced and I'm surprised it's the same price as the original R6 on release date. I bet the common freezing issues will be fixed and most likely the recording limit will be removed in all cameras going forward. It will probably get the focus system of the R10/R7 as well. Hopefully the next gen RF bodies will be as reliable as the DSLR's.

 

[neuroanatomist]

That is not true in regard to mirrorless ILC's

You are incorrect. Canon also leads the MILC market globally.

Do you actually mean mirrorless ILCs or do you mean full-frame mirrorless ILCs instead?

In Japan last year, Sony had 33% MILC market share and Canon had 28%. Japan is not the whole world. Last year's global sales numbers as percent of total ILC sales break down as follows:

~22% Sony​

~17% EOS M​

~11% EOS R​

Sony only sells MILCs, and Canon outsells them in that category as well as dominating the overall ILC market. I believe Sony does lead in FF MILCs. They also lead the ILC market segment of brands starting with the letter 'S'. At some point, sub-segmenting the market becomes meaningless.

 

[peters]

It doesn't seem that "strange" to me. The R5 is still a solid camera in both the R lineup and against it's competition. Despite some FW bungling of late, Canon has continued to update it to keep it relevant. It can easily go another year, year and a half, before getting an update -- which I think it will. I doubt we'll see the R5 II until well after the R1 ships because the R5 II will likely borrow a lot from the R1. As an R5 user and probably not an R1 buyer, I'm happy w/ not seeing an R5 until 2024, assuming this is the case.

I agree =)
The 4 year cycle worked so far excellent for me. Starting from a 5D II, 5D III, 5D IV, R5. It seams like 4 years is a good time, where the new model truely brings significant new power and features to the table. It makes it quite easy to justify the expenses for my work. I dont think I would need a new R5 after just 2,5 years. The R5 is still excellent (especialy photomode is excellent, video mode could use a bit more DR).

Also the R5 got a SIGNIFICANT Firmware update lately. The Overheat problem is pretty much completely solved with this!

 

[bergstrom]

Any new details on Canon RF 135mm f/1.8L IS USM?

Yes, its for rich people only.

 

[bergstrom]

That is not true in regard to mirrorless ILC's
I think the R6ii will be the one to switch a lot of dslr shooters over to the mirrorless market.

or just wait for the R9