The Canon EOS R6 Mark III is Canon’s Next Full-Frame Release

When I'm doing concerts with my 20MP 6D I personally don't feel the 20MP is holding me back at all. If I need reach for wildlife then I'll use the 90D. I noticed there is quite a few people on here that complain about the 24MP on the R6II so I guess it's time to upgrade it to 32MP. I wonder if the increase in MP will slightly reduce the overall image quality compared to the R6 II?
 
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‘Wild’ wide angle prime….
Wild for canon or just in general?? They already have the 10-20/4 following their ef11-24/4 which are wild for zooms.
And there is obviously no fast ultra WA prime yet.
14/1.4 and 14/1.8 in different mounts and samyang’s veritable 14/2.8 and 14/2.4 have been available for some time.
Canon’s original EF14/2.8 in 1991 and updated in 2007 were expensive and clearly not a priority since. Their 16/2.8 is the token wide prime today.
Yipp, the old Canon wide-angle primes were often pretty bad, but that changed at the end of the EF era.
‘Wild’ would mean either wider than 14mm and/or very fast. Either or especially both would equal very expensive
Yipp, 'wild' is hard to interpret, but I agree with your interpretation of something non-usual. Coming from the astrophotography side: I don't like all the digital corrections of the VCM lenses and things like the strong vignette are simply a no-go for panoramas (of the milkyway). Unfortunately the VCM lenses seems to be popular (astro is a niche), so Canon will try to build more of them. Canon might have reached a limit concerning the dimensions of the VCM lenses with the 20/1.4 lens, so that anything wider - and 'wild' - might be a non-VCM prime lens. I would be fine with a good 14/1.4, but I don't complain about anything faster.
 
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I just wonder what will become of the R5M3, if the R6M3 is 32MP, than Canon will also increase the size of the sensor of the R5M3 because 32MP and 45MP are pretty close and it will shift people from the R5 to rh R6. on the ohter side of the scale, will it allow the R3M2 to be 32MP and leave the R1M2 in the range of 24MP with much fater capabilities? It looks like Canon is trying to have R8-24, R6-32, R5-45+ so have the "line of sizes" set up.
They will probably continue focusing on readout speed instead (maybe to a point where they can remove the mechanical shutter)
In photo mode, the R5M2 already has 6ms as opposed to 18ms on the R6M3, a large difference.
 
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Canon might have reached a limit concerning the dimensions of the VCM lenses with the 20/1.4 lens, so that anything wider - and 'wild' - might be a non-VCM prime lens. I would be fine with a good 14/1.4, but I don't complain about anything faster.
Canon can always try to crop the middle of the frame and stretch it to the edges. They are getting good at it. Or use AI to fill the rest of the frame :)
 
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So the essentially the same cameras. R6III has mechanical shutter, IBIS but has no cooling so it overheats, while the C50 only electronic shutter, no IBIS but has a fan so it does not overheat. Still focused camera vs video focused camera.
 
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And there is obviously no fast ultra WA prime yet.

Yipp, the old Canon wide-angle primes were often pretty bad, but that changed at the end of the EF era.

Yipp, 'wild' is hard to interpret, but I agree with your interpretation of something non-usual. Coming from the astrophotography side: I don't like all the digital corrections of the VCM lenses and things like the strong vignette are simply a no-go for panoramas (of the milkyway). Unfortunately the VCM lenses seems to be popular (astro is a niche), so Canon will try to build more of them. Canon might have reached a limit concerning the dimensions of the VCM lenses with the 20/1.4 lens, so that anything wider - and 'wild' - might be a non-VCM prime lens. I would be fine with a good 14/1.4, but I don't complain about anything faster.
Give me a non-vcm 21 or 24mm 1.2 stabilized prime to pair with my 50mm 1.2 on my R3. With excellent optics, could be an unreal landscape/astro/travel lens without the extreme camera corrections of the VCM lenses.
 
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If the news about the sensor is true then I will be disappointed… I’m so sick of all these companies chasing resolution. 24MP was a perfect range for the R6 and if they had just pulled the R3 or R1 sensor it would have been amazing. I’m a hybrid shooter, when manufacturers add more resolution, video features then tend to suffer. 24MP/6K is a great middle ground between high resolution and managing a sensors video performance, especially in regard to readout speed, something that would have been phenomenal if they went with an R3 or R1 stacked sensor.

I was hoping for the R3 sensor with the newer features of the R5 II and R1, such as the Digic Accelerator. I liked that the R6 II matched the R3’s resolution and used it as a second body. I tried the R5 for that role, but its larger files slowed processing—even on a Threadripper desktop with 256 GB RAM, PCIe Gen 5 SSDs, and an RTX 5090. After moving to the R1 (and selling the R3), I sold the R6 II as well and now use the R8 as a second body.

[I used the R6II with a 70-200 when I had the EF 200-400 1x4x TC on the R3 for youth soccer. 200mm wasn't quite wide enough as I positioned myself at the goal line. When I got the RF 100-300mm, which I use with a 1.4x TC, the 140mm on the wide angle did the trick and I just have an R8 with the RF 24-105 F2.8 which stays in the bag during the match and only comes out for pre/post match. For non-sports events, I find the R8 to be fine. I tried the R8 for soccer when I had the 200-400mm 1.4x, but I found that I greatly preferred the more rugged body of the R6II.]

I really like the idea of having a lower-end, but still rugged, body with the same resolution as the R1 and perhaps inheriting the sensor after some time. If the R6III goes to 32MP, then we loose the LP-E6P battery body to pair with the LP-E19 battery main body.

But one can dream! Perhaps Canon could launch a 32MP LP-E19 R3II body and it could be paired with the 32MP LP-E6P R6III. They could then launch a 24MP LP-E6P R4 body to pair with the 24MP LP-E19 R1. The R5 line could then go up res, 60/70/80MP. They could also then launch a high-res LP-E19 R2 body line to pair with the R5 line! And while we are at it, Canon would also allow Sigma (and others) to sell RF FF AF lenses so we could get lenses like the Sigma 500mm F5.6, 200mm F2.0, 135mm F1.4, 35mm F1.2 (Mark II, not to rub it in), 14mm F1.4, 300-600mm F4, etc.

If only Canon would stop concentrating on being a healthy and profitable company with attractive returns to stakeholders and would instead just focus on my dreams. :cool:
 
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If the news about the sensor is true then I will be disappointed… I’m so sick of all these companies chasing resolution. 24MP was a perfect range for the R6 and if they had just pulled the R3 or R1 sensor it would have been amazing. I’m a hybrid shooter, when manufacturers add more resolution, video features then tend to suffer. 24MP/6K is a great middle ground between high resolution and managing a sensors video performance, especially in regard to readout speed, something that would have been phenomenal if they went with an R3 or R1 stacked sensor.

The technology can do it now so why not do it?

I think pushing the resolution of the R6 is a good move.

The iPhone now outputs 48MP in the iPhone 17 Pro. They don't do pixel binning or force pixel bining anymore. In fact, they now have THREE 48MP sensors in the iPhone 17 Pro. I think all three of them will output 48MP files, or 24MP binned.

I don't think the average person realizes how far we are from where we could be with regards to camera technology.
 
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If the news about the sensor is true then I will be disappointed… I’m so sick of all these companies chasing resolution. 24MP was a perfect range for the R6 and if they had just pulled the R3 or R1 sensor it would have been amazing. I’m a hybrid shooter, when manufacturers add more resolution, video features then tend to suffer. 24MP/6K is a great middle ground between high resolution and managing a sensors video performance, especially in regard to readout speed, something that would have been phenomenal if they went with an R3 or R1 stacked sensor.
Seems more people have similar view, look at this thread at DPR: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/68432262 I still hope this 32MPix rumor will turn inaccurate.
 
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Seems more people have similar view, look at this thread at DPR: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/68432262 I still hope this 32MPix rumor will turn inaccurate.
Not a very big thread. A few people chimed in... Canon will do what they do. I personally think they should push forward. I also thought the R5 mk II would be higher resolution and top 16 stops of DR... Canon took a dump on us with that one. The obsession with "readout speed" and "stacked sensors" is getting ridiculous. I think we all know who talks endlessly of this... (Sony users). The original R5 already took flawless action photos with the mechanical shutter. Still better than what the mk II does with ES only. IE, stacked sensor amounts to jack squat in the final photo. So with the MK II they got us paying for something that did nothing to the end result. If isn't better it isn't an upgrade or am I just the last sane person on this godawful planet? Stacked may be better, it may not be. It's hard to say. BSI on the other hand I'm pretty sure is bunk. With BSI the light has to pass through a thin layer of silicon to hit the pixel. That sounds like the opposite of a good sensor design. So, I think Canon should just get back in the megapixel race and see where that leads.
 
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Not a very big thread. A few people chimed in... Canon will do what they do. I personally think they should push forward. I also thought the R5 mk II would be higher resolution and top 16 stops of DR... Canon took a dump on us with that one. The obsession with "readout speed" and "stacked sensors" is getting ridiculous. I think we all know who talks endlessly of this... (Sony users). The original R5 already took flawless action photos with the mechanical shutter. Still better than what the mk II does with ES only. IE, stacked sensor amounts to jack squat in the final photo. So with the MK II they got us paying for something that did nothing to the end result. If isn't better it isn't an upgrade or am I just the last sane person on this godawful planet? Stacked may be better, it may not be. It's hard to say. BSI on the other hand I'm pretty sure is bunk. With BSI the light has to pass through a thin layer of silicon to hit the pixel. That sounds like the opposite of a good sensor design. So, I think Canon should just get back in the megapixel race and see where that leads.
The R5 in mechanical shutter has a maximum fps of 12 while the R5ii does up to 30 fps in ES, which is a real reason why some of us who take action shots use ES. BSI lets more light hit the photodiode, not less, as light is not scattered by the wiring in front of the sensors for front side illuminated. That's why BSI has been standard for small sensors for several years, and is not bunkum. I use high fps for birds in flight, use the pre-capture mode to get me shots I couldn't in the past on the R5, and the very good rolling shutter makes the R5ii even better for freezing insects and birds wings when beating fast or minimizing bending of vertical lines on background when panning. Even so, I was very happy for most of the time with the R5, which I always used with ES at 20 fps for action and not 12 fps MS, but the R5ii has an edge for what I do. If you don't do action shots where high fps is useful and 12 fps is more than enough for you and you don't use the pre-capture mode, then stick with the R5 as it is a superb camera and the R5ii has no real advantage for you. But it does for others.
 
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Give me a non-vcm 21 or 24mm 1.2 stabilized prime to pair with my 50mm 1.2 on my R3. With excellent optics, could be an unreal landscape/astro/travel lens without the extreme camera corrections of the VCM lenses.
Well, maybe by chance Canon already did this with 85mm (85/1.4 VCM and 85/1.2 'normal'). At the moment VCM has priority (bigger market), but once that market is saturated Canon might think about a 'photography-only' with excellent optics f/1.2 lens(es). Big, heavy and $$$$ of course.
 
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