The Future of EOS M [CR1]

[Canon Rumors]

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<strong>Sputtered out of the gate</strong>
The Canon EOS M system hasn’t been  the sales success Canon had hoped. Bad press about the autofocus and lack of lenses are probably big reasons why. There’s also a feeling Canon isn’t totally committed to the mirrorless market, as the segment hasn’t really been a dominant player in the United States, like it has in parts of Asia.</p>
<p>We’re told Canon plans to “relaunch” the system in the coming months with 2 new cameras. A direct replacement of the EOS M we have now, and a higher end model. The higher end model would get the viewfinder and other accessories. It’s also mentioned that the system could see as many as 3 new lenses launched in 2013 to give the system a better chance against the likes of M4/3 and NEX.</p>
<p>A new autofocus system will come with the new cameras and promises to be “class leading”.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

 

[ddashti]

I can't really see much change if Canon "relaunches" this.

 

[paul13walnut5]

Dilemmas dilemmas. I'm about to buy an M+22mm+Adaptor.

Do I wait and see if the new model makes the current M drop even further in price?

 

[nubu]

Paul, buy it! The new cams will be more expansive. I was thinking about this for months to add it to my 5DIII and 7D as a small back-up and always in the bag solution but it was too expansive. Now I got it in Austria for 390 euro including the 18-55 and the flash. That is really a bargain. I like it a lot. It is very well made. it makes fantastic pics (better than the 7D) and I have no problems with the focus in normal (not sport or wildlife) situations. It works very good with my EF collection from the 8-15 fisheye to the 500mm plus 1.4x. Buy it and be happy. Cheers

 

[Rienzphotoz]

Well that gives me some comfort that I did not sink my money into the current version, coz on many occasions I thought of getting the EOS-M but just kept putting it off as it wasn't a priority for me ... maybe the newer version(s) might lure me into buying one :-\

 

[Inspiron41]

i would love to see their high end version be near 5D mark3 version.

 

[lol]

I got the feeling the existing M was Canon reacting slowly to mirrorless, and when they eventually decided to join in, they wanted to get a product out faster (but still far later than everyone else), than get it out done well. They certainly have room for performance improvement and need to get competitive at least. To say they will aim for class leading is a bit of a challenge, one I'm not sure they will be able to reach. But for now we have to bare in mind it is a CR1 source saying that, not Canon.

Looking at the others, micro4/3 was slow AF when it first came out and they certainly sped it up. Same with Fuji. Can't remember about NEX, don't think they're that fast but they're not that bad either. And about the only good thing about the Nikon 1 was the AF, so that's more the exception than the rule. You would have thought that with Canon joining so late with the M they could have got it right first time...

 

[paul13walnut5]

Paul, buy it! The new cams will be more expansive. I was thinking about this for months to add it to my 5DIII and 7D as a small back-up and always in the bag solution but it was too expansive. Now I got it in Austria for 390 euro including the 18-55 and the flash. That is really a bargain. I like it a lot. It is very well made. it makes fantastic pics (better than the 7D) and I have no problems with the focus in normal (not sport or wildlife) situations. It works very good with my EF collection from the 8-15 fisheye to the 500mm plus 1.4x. Buy it and be happy. Cheers

I have my old camcorder on ebay just now, if it sells I'll be straight to the EOS M shop! Current prices very good and I love the form of the camera with the pancake.

 

[Random Orbits]

Well that gives me some comfort that I did not sink my money into the current version, coz on many occasions I thought of getting the EOS-M but just kept putting it off as it wasn't a priority for me ... maybe the newer version(s) might lure me into buying one :-\

Although if it drops below 400 with the prime kits lens, I'd get it to replace the P&S...

 

[WoodyWindy]

Between this, and the recent rumors about Canon rethinking the 70D sensor, I wonder if maybe someone at Canon is getting the idea that they need to reassert the lead in all major areas of the camera's design. It is no longer enough in this competitive landscape to be "good enough" to do the job - you need to be at least as good as the competition average in every respect (you can't bring up the rear in any specification - especially focus speed), and preferably exceed them in a few key areas.

 

[infared]

Looking at the others, micro4/3 was slow AF when it first came out and they certainly sped it up. Same with Fuji. Can't remember about NEX, don't think they're that fast but they're not that bad either. And about the only good thing about the Nikon 1 was the AF, so that's more the exception than the rule. You would have thought that with Canon joining so late with the M they could have got it right first time...

Yeah...I thought Canon was going to be the mirrorless slayer with the "M", too. What a disappointment. This news is encouraging, but with Canon's arrogance I will have to just keep using my MFT kit and watch with a little smirk to see what they deliver. Hope that they WOW me though! I certainly would love to see a POWERFUL mirrorless offering. I think everyone with a Canon DSLR kit would pick one up just for a back-up body...and then be drawn in to buying some of the smaller lenses.

 

[Shai]

Hello
The problem is that the eos M looks like a plastic toy .
The Fuji looks good , even the nikon looks good
It's a meter of What Is transceiver.
Unfortunately, Canon's camera looks cheap plastic .
The canon design is ugly .
And last very Important detail - they must use - WI-FI & GPS - this is MUST !
Thanks every body
SHAI

 

[Ellen Schmidtee]

My eye is on the new lenses' price - will Canon catch on to the fact the world is in a recession, or will it shoot itself in the leg with three more overpriced lenses?

 

[expatinasia]

Paul, buy it! The new cams will be more expansive

Sorry, what? Why do you think they will be more expensive?

If Canon are relaunching the M, the company is basically admitting they missed the mark. Why on earth would they make it better, and then make it more expensive? And why would anyone buy an M now when a lot of the issues are about to be addressed?

Paul, I would recommend you not to buy the current model and wait till they fix all the problems with the new model.

 

[Rienzphotoz]

Well that gives me some comfort that I did not sink my money into the current version, coz on many occasions I thought of getting the EOS-M but just kept putting it off as it wasn't a priority for me ... maybe the newer version(s) might lure me into buying one :-\

Although if it drops below 400 with the prime kits lens, I'd get it to replace the P&S...

Not a bad idea ... but wasn't there a deal recently mentioned in CR for around $396?

 

[paul13walnut5]

But the problems folk have found aren't necessarily problems for me.

I have my 7D for the fast stuff. Even with a shorty forty my 600D wouldn't fit in my pocket. And the reviews I've seen all rate the M quite highly for video. Which is very useful for me. And the price is getting very right.

 

[expatinasia]

But the problems folk have found aren't necessarily problems for me.

I have my 7D for the fast stuff. Even with a shorty forty my 600D wouldn't fit in my pocket. And the reviews I've seen all rate the M quite highly for video. Which is very useful for me. And the price is getting very right.

That's all good, but when a company like Canon admits that there are issues with the current model and decides to relaunch it, then why not wait a couple of months. I personally do not see the price going up that much, if at all, as it is not a new model but a replacement of a model that had issues.

Look upon it a different way, if they do release a nice new replacement with brand new AF and other improvements and it is only US$ 50 more then you can either splash out or still buy a probably even cheaper original version. You win either way.

 

[Dylan777]

Fix that AF & bring out FF.

I really want to see Canon kicks the RX1 in the Bbbb.....but I doubt it

 

[traveller]

Fix that AF & bring out FF.

I agree with you on the first point, Canon built their modern reputation on their AF performance (1D MkIII aside...); to have the slowest AF in class on their mirorless entry is a PR disaster!

I have to say that I disagree with you on the second point. Full frame is an issue that is confusing the mirrorless market, putting off potential buyers. I'm not trying to say that there aren't people that would be willing to pay $3000 on a mirroless camera, I just don't think that this segment is mass market enough for Canon at this point in time. Canon need to demonstrate their commitment to the EOS-M as a system if they expect pople to choose it over the competition; two lenses and a converter is not doing that.

 

[infared]

Well that gives me some comfort that I did not sink my money into the current version, coz on many occasions I thought of getting the EOS-M but just kept putting it off as it wasn't a priority for me ... maybe the newer version(s) might lure me into buying one :-\

Although if it drops below 400 with the prime kits lens, I'd get it to replace the P&S...

Not a bad idea ... but wasn't there a deal recently mentioned in CR for around $396?

That was $399 at big value with the 22mm f/2....but that has gone up to $449 now.