The Future of EOS M [CR1]

[pdirestajr]

I was/ am surprised that thew EOS M doesn't even have a presence at my local Best Buy. Um, isn't that where it NEEDS to be?! It has no chance at success otherwise.

 

[gjones5252]

I was sorely disappointed in the EOS M. It was t a game changer at all so this news is somewhat exciting for me although I am not getting my hopes up.
My opinion is that they could blow things away if they had a large sensor with some quick basic lenses. Go very simple on body design as well like x100s. I am very tempted right now to getting that camera. I know canon can come out with something better but it may not be good for business to do so.

 

[eric_ykchan]

To throw the manufactured EOS-M into rubbish bin and then replace it by another similar model that will not sell well?

 

[Random Orbits]

Well that gives me some comfort that I did not sink my money into the current version, coz on many occasions I thought of getting the EOS-M but just kept putting it off as it wasn't a priority for me ... maybe the newer version(s) might lure me into buying one :-\

Although if it drops below 400 with the prime kits lens, I'd get it to replace the P&S...

Not a bad idea ... but wasn't there a deal recently mentioned in CR for around $396?

It was temporarily at 399, and I had that screen open on my computer for while I was trying to decide, and then the deal was over. Hopefully the price will drop further when Gen 2 comes out. It would be nice if the AF were better, but a P&S-equivalent AF is good enough being used as a P&S, and for 400, it's not a bad deal knowing that I can use it as a backup (however painful) and maintain compatibility with all my lenses. Better than the S90 we used to have (before it met its early demise in a pool) and better than the HS230 that we currently have. The 22mm lens is fine for snapshots and as a walkaround, which is how my wife would use it. I wouldn't bother with any other EOS-M lenses though. They're too slow for indoor use and Canon's APS-C sensors aren't that clean at high ISOs.

 

[hiplnsdrftr]

Or just buy a Nikon A and don't worry about what half baked reiteration Canon comes out with...

As a CPS member, I'm fine with my 1Dx, 1Ds3 etc... I've given up on Canon otherwise.

 

[Deleted member 7828]

I'm more interested in the lenses they come up with. The current one is serving me just fine- I've been taking it out recently and the more I use it, the more I like it...if I need the AF performance (or IQ), I've already got the DSLR.

I wish they'd come out with a relatively fast ~50mm lens with IS that doesn't add considerable bulk to the camera. Between that, the 22 and the 18-55 I'd be all set for that system.

 

[paul13walnut5]

That's all good, but when a company like Canon admits that there are issues with the current model and decides to relaunch it, then why not wait a couple of months. I personally do not see the price going up that much, if at all, as it is not a new model but a replacement of a model that had issues.

Where did canon admit anything? It's not in their DNA.

And launching a new camera or expanding a range, isn't that the norm?

And the successors price? It won't be $50 more. Not for the first 6 months at least. So that wait becomes 9 months.

 

[HarryWintergreen]

I've got the Fuji x100s which really is a jewel. I'm not a since-I-got-my-mirrorless-I-don't-ever-use-my-dslr-gear-again-guy, but there are at least two things Canon seems to turn a blind eye to. Street photography is what many people seek in times of a suffocating trend towards photographic perfection. And it's such a joy to use a tool made by a company listening to customers.

 

[distant.star]

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I don't know what reality may or may not emerge from this. But after reading it, my gut, emotional reaction is "Yeah, yeah, yeah...blah, blah, blah."

 

[jcollett]

Hello
The problem is that the eos M looks like a plastic toy .
The Fuji looks good , even the nikon looks good
It's a meter of What Is transceiver.
Unfortunately, Canon's camera looks cheap plastic .
The canon design is ugly .
And last very Important detail - they must use - WI-FI & GPS - this is MUST !
Thanks every body
SHAI

If the EOS-M had Wi-Fi and GPS running along with a lens with IS going, the battery may only get like 40 shots on a charge! They may need to develop a battery grip for the body to drive all these extra features.

 

[c.d.embrey]

Three NEW lenses. Or three NEW Kit Zoomz ??? Me, I'm wanting a f/4.5-f/8 18-400mm

 

[Pieces Of E]

I dropped $900 on the EOS-M package with the 22mm, the EF lens adaptor and I haven't even charged the battery yet. Why? Because of the bad press on the slow AF and the bad rumour of a firmware update that hasn't materialized. Today, I just ordered the EF-S 18-135 STM lens, with hood and Tiffen ND .03 filter because I had $250 worth of Amazon gift cards from Christmas. Damnit, I am now totallly commited to this thing come hell or high water. Like Paul13walnut5 here, I bought this camera to only shoot video because I have a 7D for stills. My wife is pissed at me for spending the money and not using the camera yet, so here I go. I am also watching MagicLantern closely as they develop their software package for the EOS-M and really want to see where it all goes. My video background goes back to the 1990's when Sony introduced the Digital 8 format and their first VAIO Digital Studio pc packaged with Adobe Premiere LT. I still have the TRV-103 camera, a VX-2000 mini DV cam, a recent model Panasonic AVCHD camera and Premiere Pro CS-5.5, soon to be CS-6. I'm gonna see what the EOS-M will do with my slight arrray of EF and EF-S lenses. When I shoot something decent, I'll be sure and share and enjoy the critiques! . Happy Friday everyone.

 

[preppyak]

But the problems folk have found aren't necessarily problems for me.

I have my 7D for the fast stuff. Even with a shorty forty my 600D wouldn't fit in my pocket. And the reviews I've seen all rate the M quite highly for video. Which is very useful for me. And the price is getting very right.

That's all good, but when a company like Canon admits that there are issues with the current model and decides to relaunch it, then why not wait a couple of months. I personally do not see the price going up that much, if at all, as it is not a new model but a replacement of a model that had issues.

Because the EOS-M, on launch, was $799 for that kit. The new EOS-M, at cheapest, will be $799.

Currently the EOS-M is $469 at Amazon, which means its probably going for $400 in some deals. That's half off...so, why wait for improvements you dont really need when the price is 50% off.

 

[Ivar]

I've got the Fuji x100s which really is a jewel. I'm not a since-I-got-my-mirrorless-I-don't-ever-use-my-dslr-gear-again-guy, but there are at least two things Canon seems to turn a blind eye to. Street photography is what many people seek in times of a suffocating trend towards photographic perfection. And it's such a joy to use a tool made by a company listening to customers.

Same here, not a single moment of hesitation when I decided for the Fuji 100s.
Canon seems too conservative and protective: too late, too little, use the same old tech. That for well established mirrorless/bigger sensor compact market. Sounds crazy to me. The Fuji x100 was crazy too looking at the issues, but they were first, and there was something in it which resonated.

 

[Lee Jay]

I think everyone with a Canon DSLR kit would pick one up just for a back-up body...and then be drawn in to buying some of the smaller lenses.

Everyone? Wanna bet?

 

[t.linn]

I have to admit that I'm happy the response to this product has been tepid. Sometimes I think that Canon believes it can put out a product which isn't remotely competitive and, because it says "Canon" on it, people will pay whatever price Canon chooses to charge. Maybe someone over at Canon HQ will realize that protecting their existing product line is not the best long term strategy.

 

[QBNY]

All Canon needs to do is make a G12 mirrorless with a proper sensor. They don't need to make a new body, Take the G12, make it able to swap lenses and they'll have a hit.

 

[East Wind Photography]

I really don't know what the big deal is. The AF system could be much improved by using 1/2 of the pixels for AF and the other half for a view finder (Interlaced). Once locked, all pixels go to the RAW image. This mirror requirement and the old school live view AF system is so out of date. It's no wonder the M didn't take off.

I would definitely consider an M if it had AF as good as the other EOS DSLRs and an improved frame rate because of the lack of mirror.

Lenses are not a big deal for me. I would never buy an M lens anyway...maybe just small one for street shooting. EOS lenses will be the way to go. Adapter should be included with the camera.

All Canon needs to do is make a G12 mirrorless with a proper sensor. They don't need to make a new body, Take the G12, make it able to swap lenses and they'll have a hit.

 

[robbinzo]

I was about to go for it and buy a 5d iii but since I'm not a pro I doubt that I will get enough use out of it to justify the price. I have also realised that in most situations now i dislike carting around bulky gear.
I really liked the look of the Sony RX1 but the price is horrific & the autofocus mediocre. The Fujifilm X100S sounds terrific from the reviews. The X100S sensor has built in phase detect pixels & has a great AF system as a result.
Now, this new eos m has my attention if canon can better the X100S. I'm in no hurry to buy a new camera so I don't mind waiting to see how this pans out.
I wouldn't mind seeing 240 fps video in future eos m models. Nikon have a strange aspect ratio in their nikon 1 high speed video which I don't like at all.
Just hoping that someone at canon reads these threads...

 

[QBNY]

Here Ya go, Canon...

Don't want a check, just make it.

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