The Next DSLR from Canon Will Be....

[et31]

What will happen afterwards when Canon comes out with the 90D model? :
Start all over again with the Canon 10D Mark II, etc. or a new naming convention?f ;D

 

[whothafunk]

Yes, you are right. The 70D came out almost 4 years after the 7D, compared to 1.5 years from 7D2 to 80D.
On the other hand the 80D will be priced close to 7D2. And if they want to offer better AF than 70D, using 7D2 AF would save development cost. Maybe partial 7D2...

Look, even if Canon decided to give 80D the 65 point AF from the 7D2, it still wouldn't feature 6 advanced AF cases and superior lens drive. They would probably skip the spot and expansion modes as well on the 80D.

 

[Loswr]

What will happen afterwards when Canon comes out with the 90D model? :
Start all over again with the Canon 10D Mark II, etc. or a new naming convention?f ;D

 

[pierlux]

Will it be DIGIC 6 or DIGIC 6+?

The 70D is DIGIC 5 but with the 1DXII, Canon leapfrogged DIGIC 6 and went straight to DIGIC 6+.

The only case where Canon have continued with older DIGIC chips has been the EOS 1x00D line.

If the 80D is DIGIC 6+ what does that mean for the rest of the camera?

I'd be willing to bet that it would therefore include 4K, for starters.

Also, after Canon delivered 1080p in the 5D Mark II, 1080p was in all DSLRs from Canon except the 1x00D line.

4K is the "new normal video" feature now.

The 70D id Digic 5+, not Digic 5. But, in one of your previous posts (in another thread), you were suggesting the possibility fo the 80D to have Digic 7. OK, we didn't know at that time the 1DXII has dual Digic 6+, but I think you might be right about Digic 7. It has happened in the past that Canon launched a new Digic even in compact cameras and, as you correctly evidenced, Digic 4 was introduced with the 50D just before the 5DII. I suspect you might be right, why not a Digic 7 in the 80D, just before the 6DII and 5DIV?

Just a thought...

If what you're suggesting is true, then Canon is jumping through their CPU numbers too quickly. You have to remember that the Digic 6 was only recently introduced in the 7D2 in 2014 and then in the rebels, 5DS, and M3 and we are just now seeing the introduction of Digic 6+ in the 1DX2. It would be too soon to see the Digic 7 come to life for another 2 years at least. We would be lucky if Canon will even put the 6+ in the 80D, as I guess the 6+ will only be used for 4K cameras.

I think we will see the Digic 7 chip when Canon will show the 7D3, just like how it introduced the Digic 6 chip in the 7D2. Just my two cents.

The Digic 6 was introduced in a p/s camera a year before the 7D2 came out....

Indeed. And also the Digic 5, first in the Powershot S100 (2011). Nevertheless, though being possible, I said "might" and "suspect" about the Digic 7, in fact I don't think it's probable.

Anyway, R&D of a 1-series body is way longer than that of any lower-end product. And engineers at Canon are surely already researching & developing Digic 8 while we're writing...

 

[asanmartinjr07]

I wish Canon would update most of their middle of the line EF lenses to complement their newer crop sensor D-SLR's. Full frame lenses are too expensive for a crop sensor camera.

 

[RGF]

……. the EOS 80D.</p>
<p>I do realize most of you care about the replacement for the EOS 5D Mark III, but for the moment, there’s nothing solid on its development that we can report. I suspect we’ll get at least one “5D” camera some time before the summer.</p>
<p><em>More to come…</em></p>
<span id="pty_trigger"></span>

At least one "5D" - besides a replacement for the 5D M3 what else could there be.

Low resolution, low light 5D body?
An updated to the 5DS/SR?
Something else?

 

[pierlux]

I wish Canon would update most of their middle of the line EF lenses to complement their newer crop sensor D-SLR's. Full frame lenses are too expensive for a crop sensor camera.

Canon are indeed constantly updating the EF line, but each release is no cheaper than what it replaces. You probably mean you'd wish more EF-s lenses to be released, and in fact this is what's (slowly) already happening. The recent EF-s releases are good performers at an affordable price.

BTW, welcome!

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

I wish Canon would update most of their middle of the line EF lenses to complement their newer crop sensor D-SLR's. Full frame lenses are too expensive for a crop sensor camera.

I particularly wish lens EF-S high quality and lower price than equivalent series "L".
But the years of waiting has shown that Canon does not want to cannibalize their more expensive lenses and EF-S launched a few models.

Small and cheap lenses that Canon offers today are:
EF 50mm F1.8 STM
EF 40mm F2.8 STM
EF-S 24mm F2.8 STM
EF-S 60mm F2.8 Macro
10-18mm F4.5-5.6 EF-S STM
18-55mm F3.5-5.6 EF-S STM
55-250mm F4-5.6 EF-S STM

Lenses that I wanted are
EF-S 10mm F2.8
EF-S 15mm F2
EF-S 22mm F1.8
EF-S 30mm F1.4
EF-S 15-50mm F2.8

While my desires are not met by Canon, I bought the Sigma 30mm Art, which is a beautiful lens.

 

[unfocused]

I still expect that the 80D will continue the differentiation between video and specialized stills that exists between the 70D and 7D II.

Canon could make a few tweaks to the 80D to make it better for video: headphone jack, variable speed focusing in live view (for follow focus), improvements in live view focusing generally, etc.

I'm not convinced it definitely won't be 4K, in fact it would not surprise me at all.

In effect, make the 7D II line the crop sensor equivalent of the 1D X for stills and the XXD the crop sensor equivalent of the 1D X for video.

The future of the camera market is in specialized, more niche-like products that can be sold at a premium. A premium video-oriented DSLR in a crop format fills a demand that won't steal sales from either the sports-birding oriented 7D or the full-frame XD line.

 

[whatta]

While my desires are not met by Canon, I bought the Sigma 30mm Art, which is a beautiful lens.

+1 for the sigma. I have the older version (30 1.4), not yet the art, but my favorite lens.
have you tried both, or only the art?

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

While my desires are not met by Canon, I bought the Sigma 30mm Art, which is a beautiful lens.

+1 for the sigma. I have the older version (30 1.4), not yet the art, but my favorite lens.
have you tried both, or only the art?

I just used the 30mm version Art.
According to the review on the link below, Art version is better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuKIm2loKn0

 

[Nininini]

I wish Canon would update most of their middle of the line EF lenses to complement their newer crop sensor D-SLR's. Full frame lenses are too expensive for a crop sensor camera.

I want a 100mm prime, similar to the 100mm f/2.0

but:
-EF-S
-small (smaller than the 18-135mm)
-f/2.0 or f/2.8
-IS
-anti-flare coating


or, alternatively, make a smaller 18-135 STM that actually isn't terrible lol

the distortion on that lens is really bad

 

[Nininini]

nm, was about to say they hadn't released an EF-S since 2014, but I forgot they release the 50mm 1.8

 

[whatta]

or, alternatively, make a smaller 18-135 STM that actually isn't terrible lol
the distortion on that lens is really bad

isn't it something very easy to correct or maybe even auto corrected by the body?

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

I wish Canon would update most of their middle of the line EF lenses to complement their newer crop sensor D-SLR's. Full frame lenses are too expensive for a crop sensor camera.

I want a 100mm prime, similar to the 100mm f/2.0
but:
-EF-S
-small (smaller than the 18-135mm)
-f/2.0 or f/2.8
-IS
-anti-flare coating
or, alternatively, make a smaller 18-135 STM that actually isn't terrible lol
the distortion on that lens is really bad

According to the optical knowledge I learned in CanonRumors and elsewhere, EF-S longer than 60mm lens has little glass economy, compared to EF lenses.
This explains why, even Sigma declined further lenses longer than 60mm, APS-C only.

On the other hand, lens 30 mm or shorter glass has a good economy, size, weight, if it is only APS-C.

Canon 100mm F2 is wonderful for APS-C cameras, and an updated version with Image Stabilizer would cost close to $ 1000.

 

[pedro]

……. the EOS 80D.</p>
<p>I do realize most of you care about the replacement for the EOS 5D Mark III, but for the moment, there’s nothing solid on its development that we can report. I suspect we’ll get at least one “5D” camera some time before the summer.</p>
<p><em>More to come…</em></p>
<span id="pty_trigger"></span>

At least one "5D" - besides a replacement for the 5D M3 what else could there be.

Low resolution, low light 5D body? - Yes, please!
An updated to the 5DS/SR?
Something else?

 

[Nininini]

or, alternatively, make a smaller 18-135 STM that actually isn't terrible lol
the distortion on that lens is really bad

isn't it something very easy to correct or maybe even auto corrected by the body?

the lens profile in the body just does CA and vignetting afaik

and yah, in theory you can correct it in post, but
-the 18-135mm distortion is bad, it's never going to correct it properly
-it takes time, time I don't want to spend in lightroom
-it doesn't work for video


basically, I want a small medium telephoto for APS-C that is sharp, without a ton of distoriton

I use the 100mm f/2.0..it's nice....but....no anti-flare coating...no IS...

if they updated that lens, I would be happy, but I'm not sure Canon wants to...they basically are right now releasing either super expensive L glass, or super cheap EF-S zooms....the 24mm EF-S prime is nice lol

 

[Nininini]

Canon 100mm F2 is wonderful for APS-C cameras, and an updated version with Image Stabilizer would cost close to $ 1000.

Tamron is going to release a 85mm f/1.4 prime with VC, but full frame, and it will be costly and massive

I'll take a 100mm f/2.0 update with flare coating then lol

 

[roxics]

Sensor size has a large effect on heat during video, and it's an issue with DSLR, especially full frame. From an interview with Canon’s Masaya Maeda:

What is actually generating this heat, I'm not so sure....Canon has said "the sensor" in an interview if I remember correctly. The sensor isn't very specific of course.

It can't be the 4k encoder, even small ARM chips in smartphones can encode 4k without generating much heat.

Another problem is the weather sealing of course, it's blocking the heat from escaping.

The Samsung NX1 downsamples 7K to 4K internal recording and has been out for a year now.
The new Sony A6300 downsamples 6K to 4K internal recording and is $1000 and has SLog3.
Both are APS-C sensors. Both offer 4K HDMI output.

If Canon can't do 4K downsampled from a 6K sensor and offer 4K HDMI out in the 80D, then something is seriously wrong at Canon. Either they're being greedy and just don't want to or they don't have the technology. In which case we shouldn't buy their old technology for the same price as new technology offered by others.

I fully expect the 80D to shoot 4K. Anything less at this point would be ridiculous.

 

[mackguyver]

I'm mostly interested because I'm hoping there's significant overlap with the 6D successor.

This is what I want. Canon baffle me with these new APS-C bodies and poor focus on APS-C lenses, and wonderful catalog of full frame lenses, but (now consumer at least) full frame bodies are very neglected. My 6D is perfectly serviceable, but sometimes I do wonder what I'm missing out on shooting on a body that has one focus point.

A few months back I grabbed a SL1 with the 10-18, 18-55, and 55-250 STM lenses and I am blown away by how good the new lenses are. Sure, they aren't quite like the many L lenses I have, but for the money, they are freaking amazing. I know people want more EF-S lenses, but I can't see how Canon could do much better for this market. Also, the XXD series are always fairly innovative and I'm expecting this one will be as well.