The world’s best webcam on sale for $399

[koenkooi]

I think that's when they changed the M line from EOS to Powershot firmware.

And there are still persistent rumors that it wasn't using a Canon sensor. My guess is that the powershot firmware colour science was targeted at Sony sensors and the powershot team did a really bad job adapting it to proper Canon sensors.

 

[sanj]

It’s a camera that takes pictures. To me that’s all that matters.

It’s often on sale for very low prices, even here, on the other side of the world. I recommend it to a lot of people starting out. Their first camera won’t certainly be the last, and this puts them on a modern mirrorless system. What they need is to learn the exposure triangle and composition, and this will do just right.

You can fight me as much as you want, but this is enough to take pictures.

What a fantastic reply. BRAVO.

 

[Richard CR]

What was wrong with the M3 ? It was a perfectly capable mirrorless crop camera offered at an attractive price that undoubtably got many into the M system, including myself.

don't have me go down that rabbit hole. I'll start and finish with AEB.

 

[Richard CR]

And there are still persistent rumors that it wasn't using a Canon sensor. My guess is that the powershot firmware colour science was targeted at Sony sensors and the powershot team did a really bad job adapting it to proper Canon sensors.

it was a very weird one-off sensor with lines of phase detect pixels, but right after canon introduced DPAF and the rest is history.

hard to say if it was a canon sensor, or just that the powershot development team was just completely overwhelmed, but it was decidedly the worst. they could have turned it around by releasing firmware updates, but instead they just quietly made a M5/M6 to replace it.

 

[Deleted member 383640]

We are actually finishing up an article on this, but the R5 Mark II and R1 is keeping us busy (and the site too).

Don't announce an article so that it doesn't suffer the same fate as the announced article about the state of Canon that hasn't seen the light of day (yet).

 

[Richard CR]

Don't announce an article so that it doesn't suffer the same fate as the announced article about the state of Canon that hasn't seen the light of day (yet).

we are still working on that one too.

some of these articles are really complicated - and we wanted to give Canon time to respond to some questions.

 

[John Wilde]

It’s a camera that takes pictures. To me that’s all that matters.

It’s often on sale for very low prices, even here, on the other side of the world. I recommend it to a lot of people starting out. Their first camera won’t certainly be the last, and this puts them on a modern mirrorless system. What they need is to learn the exposure triangle and composition, and this will do just right.

You can fight me as much as you want, but this is enough to take pictures.

"The M100 is aimed squarely at smartphone photographers looking to get their first 'real' camera, and its polished touch-centric control scheme reflects this." - DPR's review

I guess the target audience of the R100 is people who have never owned a smartphone.

 

[Navism]

BCN lives and dies by discounted cheap camera and kits. and the R100 is nowhere to be found. That's not without reason.

But in this one case (webcam), not having a touchscreen isn't that important, so it works for the R100.

I have already checked BCN.
R100 is selling good. It has its own position.
I can say the sale units and value is higher than someone global shutter camera.


If Canon really make this for webcam or other business, they should remove the evf and sell 299.

Canon webcam utility pro can support multi camera function. If buying 5 R100 for steaming. It is cheaper than other cameras.

 

[JonS]

Does this have the 30 min limit when putting out 'clean' HDMI?

 

[Loswr]

I have already checked BCN.
R100 is selling good. It has its own position.
I can say the sale units and value is higher than someone global shutter camera.

Do you think the R100 will outsell the R1, as well?

 

[Richard CR]

I have already checked BCN.
R100 is selling good. It has its own position.
I can say the sale units and value is higher than someone global shutter camera.

position 28 is disastrous for such a camera. usually these inexpensive ones are bundled with double lens kits and live in the top 10 until they are discontinued.

 

[Richard CR]

Does this have the 30 min limit when putting out 'clean' HDMI?

when you use it as a webcam, you don't actually record.

you have a clean HDMI stream and basically you are outputting 4k via the live stream.

I did this with my M6 Mark II for ages. the quality was amazing.

 

[Loswr]

position 28 is disastrous for such a camera. usually these inexpensive ones are bundled with double lens kits and live in the top 10 until they are discontinued.

Agreed. That’s the R50, which stepped into that position after the M50 II was discontinued.

Either Canon blew it with the R100, or they had specific B2B markets in mind (e.g., photo booth companies, cruise ship lines, mall portrait chains, etc.), and selling it as a consumer offering is merely ancillary.

 

[Navism]

Do you think the R100 will outsell the R1, as well?

If Canon announces Nov is not enough stocks, the total dollars can win R100.
3700 units x 6299usd vs "20000" (is it too much per month? ) x 399usd.

Rush calculate: Canon sells around 2.5M units per year. I guess R100 can be 5-10% of total units.

 

[Navism]

position 28 is disastrous for such a camera. usually these inexpensive ones are bundled with double lens kits and live in the top 10 until they are discontinued.

Come on! R100 has 2 big brothers R50 and R10.
Those really hurt R100 sale! .
But I am confident to guess R100 total units can be more than Nikon APSC total units.

 

[Richard CR]

Come on! R100 has 2 big brothers R50 and R10.
Those really hurt R100 sale! .
But I am confident to guess R100 total units can be more than Nikon APSC total units.

Sadly Nikon took a left turn off the bridge somewhere.

Still though Canon can make a R110 and make me happy.

 

[blackcoffee17]

"The M100 is aimed squarely at smartphone photographers looking to get their first 'real' camera, and its polished touch-centric control scheme reflects this." - DPR's review

I guess the target audience of the R100 is people who have never owned a smartphone.

Unfortunately, they still marketed the R100 as an upgrade to a smartphone. Imagine coming from a smartphone and having to click-click-click to control everything...

 

[koenkooi]

Unfortunately, they still marketed the R100 as an upgrade to a smartphone. Imagine coming from a smartphone and having to click-click-click to control everything...

Wait till people discover that to edit the pictures, you'll need to have an additional device, like a smartphone.

 

[Kharan]

It’s a camera that takes pictures. To me that’s all that matters.

It’s often on sale for very low prices, even here, on the other side of the world. I recommend it to a lot of people starting out. Their first camera won’t certainly be the last, and this puts them on a modern mirrorless system. What they need is to learn the exposure triangle and composition, and this will do just right.

You can fight me as much as you want, but this is enough to take pictures.

I think it massively depends on your market. Where I live, I found the R50 on sale for *less* money than the R100, which makes absolutely zero sense. Regularly, their price difference is about $100, which to me still makes it a no brainer to get the much better specced R50. I wouldn’t want to live without any of the features that the better camera offers.

 

[PinholeR5]

Get the R50 for webcam.

I do agree with the "cheap webcam" argument. I've never used the R100, so not sure of the IQ, etc.

I will argue, though, that for most cases the R50 is a much better deal. For starters, I think most people would be fine with FHD video for their webcam, that is, 1080P. In that case, the R50 supports UVC/UAC at 1080P and you can just plug the camera directly into the computer through the USB. No need for the capture card/HDMI cable. This reduces the price delta by the $69 for the capture card (of course, at the expense of HD vs 4k) and no need for HDMI cable.

I have two of these myself for that reason! The R50 is also a much nicer camera. I recently bought the Sigma RF 18-50mm f/2.8 lens and have been very impressed with the combo. I was a bit disappointed with the fact that the Sigma lens didn't have a control ring so I couldn't get two dials for the R50 setup, but then found that you can set the focus ring on the lens to a control ring!

You can save with cheaper power adapters as well. I use the Gonine one. I think the R50 is a great solution.