This is everything that's wrong with photogaphic kickstarters

Kit Lens Jockey

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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/126995799/the-worlds-first-fastest-and-coolest-always-in-foc/description

Who wants to pay $200+ for a 35mm lens that's permanently set to f8 and infinity focus?

Apparently some people will when it's marketed as cool and innovative.

I don't even know what else to say. It's nothing more than a trick to prey on people that don't realize they can do the same thing by setting any normal 35mm lens to f8 and infinity focus, and also have almost everything be "magically" in focus all the time.
 
Kit Lens Jockey said:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/126995799/the-worlds-first-fastest-and-coolest-always-in-foc/description

Who wants to pay $200+ for a 35mm lens that's permanently set to f8 and infinity focus?

Apparently some people will when it's marketed as cool and innovative.

I don't even know what else to say. It's nothing more than a trick to prey on people that don't realize they can do the same thing by setting any normal 35mm lens to f8 and infinity focus, and also have almost everything be "magically" in focus all the time.

Look at Meyer Optics Goerlitz. Succesfully kickstarted 500 € + lens with only three lens elements (Trioplan 2.8/100) for it's bubbly bokeh feature. Also anodized in either gold or titanium shell. Apparently people will buy almost anything, if it's marketed the right way...
 
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Khalai said:
Look at Meyer Optics Goerlitz. Succesfully kickstarted 500 € + lens with only three lens elements (Trioplan 2.8/100) for it's bubbly bokeh feature. Also anodized in either gold or titanium shell. Apparently people will buy almost anything, if it's marketed the right way...
That seems expensive, but hell, I can even understand that if you just like the bokeh it makes. I'm not so elitist as to say that if someone wants to buy an optically imperfect lens just because of the effect it makes that that isn't ok. But really, this thing seems to just be a garden variety lens with a permanent f8 aperture and "hyperfocal technology" (focus permanently stuck at infinity.)

There is absolutely nothing this has over a normal 35mm lens.
 
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Kit Lens Jockey said:
Khalai said:
Look at Meyer Optics Goerlitz. Succesfully kickstarted 500 € + lens with only three lens elements (Trioplan 2.8/100) for it's bubbly bokeh feature. Also anodized in either gold or titanium shell. Apparently people will buy almost anything, if it's marketed the right way...
That seems expensive, but hell, I can even understand that if you just like the bokeh it makes. I'm not so elitist as to say that if someone wants to buy an optically imperfect lens just because of the effect it makes that that isn't ok. But really, this thing seems to just be a garden variety lens with a permanent f8 aperture and "hyperfocal technology" (focus permanently stuck at infinity.)

There is absolutely nothing this has over a normal 35mm lens.

You can find old Trioplan and Primoplan lenses for a 400 €, no need to shell out 1500 € for a newly produced ones. Also, there is Helios 44-2 58mm f/2 lens with distinctive bokeh and they go used for as low as 30-40 € :)
 
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SecureGSM said:
sorry, had to correct your typo there :D

Sporgon said:
Judging by comments here on CR this would be a good lens cap for 5D, 5DII and 6D owners :-X

Isn't that what the 40STM is for? That's what mine is for. And it's f/2.8 and cheaper than this! And I can set the aperture to f/8 and leave it at infinity and never touch the BBF if I don't want to...
 
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This page demonstrates everything I hate about U.S. advertising style, specifically tons of advertisements that all look the same, repeating the same catch phrases & buzzwords without meaning any of them.

In this case it's professional, spontaneity, highest standards, revolutionary, first ever, in the moment, express yourself, technology, etc. Only the gullible will believe any of this is true at all, or more so than a 35mm f/2 IS USM set to MF @ 10ft & the camera set to Av @ f/8 (which only the clueless would think couldn't be easily done).
 
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Kit Lens Jockey said:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/126995799/the-worlds-first-fastest-and-coolest-always-in-foc/description

Who wants to pay $200+ for a 35mm lens that's permanently set to f8 and infinity focus?

Apparently some people will when it's marketed as cool and innovative.

I don't even know what else to say. It's nothing more than a trick to prey on people that don't realize they can do the same thing by setting any normal 35mm lens to f8 and infinity focus, and also have almost everything be "magically" in focus all the time.

The everything that's wrong with photographic kickstarters is that people still haven't figured out what a raw deal participating in a crowdfunding effort is.
 
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The site says that I have to be at least 3 meters away from the subject. So what if I want to take a photo of building in 1 meter wide street? How can I get it in focus? What if the paintings on the roof of a temple is only 2 meters above me? But let's suppose that I have enough space. How long would it take to capture the paintings in a dark temple using f/8? If I can't use my tripod, the image will be blurry for sure. By the way, why would I want everything to be in focus everytime? The so-called kickstarters do not know anything about photography. :(
 
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I am with you, but for the Mr. Consumer this fixed aperture fixed everything lens idea may sound great?
Fixed everything lens is a new black. Let's face it! :D

LonelyBoy said:
SecureGSM said:
sorry, had to correct your typo there :D

Sporgon said:
Judging by comments here on CR this would be a good lens cap for 5D, 5DII and 6D owners :-X

Isn't that what the 40STM is for? That's what mine is for. And it's f/2.8 and cheaper than this! And I can set the aperture to f/8 and leave it at infinity and never touch the BBF if I don't want to...
 
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SecureGSM said:
I am with you, but for the Mr. Consumer this fixed aperture fixed everything lens idea may sound great?
Fixed everything lens is a new black. Let's face it! :D

LonelyBoy said:
SecureGSM said:
sorry, had to correct your typo there :D

Sporgon said:
Judging by comments here on CR this would be a good lens cap for 5D, 5DII and 6D owners :-X

Isn't that what the 40STM is for? That's what mine is for. And it's f/2.8 and cheaper than this! And I can set the aperture to f/8 and leave it at infinity and never touch the BBF if I don't want to...

yeah where could i possibly get a camera with approx 35mm FOV and near infinite depth of field so it barely needs to focus and is so small i could carry it everywhere?
 
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Like all sales pitches, common sense should prevail. Like if it looks too good to be true, then it probably is. On the other hand, a pitched item can make perfect sense and you get a positive response to the companies ethics and authenticity. Peak Design is a case in point. I've backed two of their Kickstarter projects and got entirely excellent products at a great price.

-pw
 
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pwp said:
Like all sales pitches, common sense should prevail. Like if it looks too good to be true, then it probably is. On the other hand, a pitched item can make perfect sense and you get a positive response to the companies ethics and authenticity. Peak Design is a case in point. I've backed two of their Kickstarter projects and got entirely excellent products at a great price.

-pw

They are indeed very good, but I would not consider them "great price" at all. I have a strap and small bag from them, quite happy with them, but their bags are quite pricey and e.g. Think Tank Retrospective or Signature are as good as Peak Design with better pricing.
 
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Khalai said:
They are indeed very good, but I would not consider them "great price" at all. I have a strap and small bag from them, quite happy with them, but their bags are quite pricey and e.g. Think Tank Retrospective or Signature are as good as Peak Design with better pricing.

True, Peak Design products are premium priced, particularly the bags. But this is a Kickstarter thread. There were great offers on the PD products for those who came in early on the Kickstarter campaign.

-pw
 
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