longtallkarl said:I have both the 17 and 24II ts-e lenses, and while I certainly agree that to get the most out of them it's best to use the tripod / live view combination, most often I use them hand held. It takes a bit more patience, but for stationary subjects the results are fairly easy to obtain. (I mostly use shift, only occasionally tilt.) One thing to note is that when shifting more than about 5mm off center, the in camera meter gets pretty inaccurate. i often meter and focus first, then shift. The image below was taken with the 17mm with about 10 mm of shift, handheld.
can only fully agree with everything in that statement!!!!
Two handheld examples from travelling Tuscany below.
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