Tokina 24-70 f/2.8 Pro FX Spotted

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<p>Tokina showed off an AT-X PRO SD 24-70mm f/2.8 this past weekend at CP+ in Tokyo.</p>
<p>The new lens is expected until Photokina for an official announcement.</p>
<p>Source: [<a href="http://photorumors.com/2014/02/16/new-tokina-at-x-pro-24-70mm-f2-8-sd-if-fx-lens-spotted-at-cp/">PR</a>]</p>
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[pj1974]

Well... that's an interesting move from Tokina. The Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 has been received quite well.

Tokina has a number of very good PRO lenses... looking forward to seeing what they can offer here...

Competition is good (for us consumers!)

PJ

 

[traveller]

This lens would need to have excellent optics combined with a low price to compete against the current offerings, given that it looks like retains an out of date DC motor and clutch mechanism. I might be wrong, they could have incorporated an ultrasonic motor and retained a clutch type mode switch for retro appeal. In any case, I'm not keen on Tamrons and Tokinas because their rings tend to rotate the Nikon way round, which I find annoying when combined with a bag of Canon lenses!

 

[Lee Jay]

No stabilization? Not interested.

Bring on the Sigma 24-70/2 OS!

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

Tokina makes some lenses as tough as a tank. They do not have ultrasonic motor and Image stabilizer, but serve well for photographers old school style. I wish they come back to offer something like 16-50mm F2.8, which does a good job, and competes very well with Sigma and Tamron.

 

[raptor3x]

In any case, I'm not keen on Tamrons and Tokinas because their rings tend to rotate the Nikon way round, which I find annoying when combined with a bag of Canon lenses!

If you look at the photo you can see the zoom ring rotates in the Canon convention. Maybe they'll have the different mounts rotate in different directions for consistency with the OEM lenses.

 

[RomainF]

What's the interest in coming out with the same old lens ? 24-70 2.8 ? We already have the best one ever in Canon lineup and a cheaper -and still good- alternative with Tamron. If it is better and cheaper than the Tamron one, why not, but i have my doubts.

 

[traveller]

In any case, I'm not keen on Tamrons and Tokinas because their rings tend to rotate the Nikon way round, which I find annoying when combined with a bag of Canon lenses!

If you look at the photo you can see the zoom ring rotates in the Canon convention. Maybe they'll have the different mounts rotate in different directions for consistency with the OEM lenses.

I stand corrected, it's just Tamron (should have looked twice at the photo in the post!).

I still can't see the point of this lens unless it has an ultrasonic motor. All the other major manufacturers have moved on (except for Zeiss and Leica, obviously) from this eighties arrangement. Who cares if it's built like a tank, I don't intend to use it to invade another country ;D.

 

[wickidwombat]

No stabilization? Not interested.

Bring on the Sigma 24-70/2 OS!

+100000000000000

 

[raptor3x]

In any case, I'm not keen on Tamrons and Tokinas because their rings tend to rotate the Nikon way round, which I find annoying when combined with a bag of Canon lenses!

If you look at the photo you can see the zoom ring rotates in the Canon convention. Maybe they'll have the different mounts rotate in different directions for consistency with the OEM lenses.

I stand corrected, it's just Tamron (should have looked twice at the photo in the post!).

I still can't see the point of this lens unless it has an ultrasonic motor. All the other major manufacturers have moved on (except for Zeiss and Leica, obviously) from this eighties arrangement. Who cares if it's built like a tank, I don't intend to use it to invade another country ;D.

Tokinas usually have the zoom ring rotating in the opposite (Nikon) direction as well, at least, that's the way it is on the 16-28.

 

[duydaniel]

VERY NICE!!!

 

[Rienzphotoz]

The Tokina lens has to be mind blowing or very cheap to compete in this focal range/aperture ... Canon 24-70 f/2.8 L II is the undisputed king of the hill in that range/aperture, with Tamron also doing a fantastic job ... it'll be very tough for Tokina to sell their new 24-70 f/2.8 lens, unless it is very cheap or it has truly awesome image quality or both.

 

[tron]

Excellent for young people who were not let down by older Tokina lenses not working even on a few years younger analog bodies.

My Tokina ATX 28-70 f/2.8 working on EOS 600 series (late 80s) and EOS1n (1994) cameras didn't work on my 50E (I believe 1996). So it is a nice paperweight.

So if their new lens firmware is not upgradeable by the buyers feel free to risk your money to ... save some in the first place.

 

[Rudeofus]

So if their new lens firmware is not upgradeable by the buyers feel free to risk your money to ... save some in the first place.

Fortunately these times are over now. Almost every programmable circuit nowadays uses flash memory for holding its firmware, and flash memory can be reprogrammed, usually with the circuit in place. As a result, Canon has not pulled another "we'll change the protocol a tiny bit so some third party lenses won't work with new camera models" stunt since 2003.

 

[Rienzphotoz]

So if their new lens firmware is not upgradeable by the buyers feel free to risk your money to ... save some in the first place.

Fortunately these times are over now. Almost every programmable circuit nowadays uses flash memory for holding its firmware, and flash memory can be reprogrammed, usually with the circuit in place. As a result, Canon has not pulled another "we'll change the protocol a tiny bit so some third party lenses won't work with new camera models" stunt since 2003.

I think Canon/Nikon do continue to pull stunts with firmware upgrades that mess around with the AF of third party lenses or third party batteries suddenly stop working/report errors etc ... I've had several Sigma, Tamron lens that had developed sudden change of behavior after a firmware update from Canon/Nikon. True they can be fixed by the lens manufacturer's service center (if your city or country has one ... unfortunately, the country I live in, does not have a service center for third party lens manufacturers).

 

[tron]

So if their new lens firmware is not upgradeable by the buyers feel free to risk your money to ... save some in the first place.

Fortunately these times are over now. Almost every programmable circuit nowadays uses flash memory for holding its firmware, and flash memory can be reprogrammed, usually with the circuit in place. As a result, Canon has not pulled another "we'll change the protocol a tiny bit so some third party lenses won't work with new camera models" stunt since 2003.

I think Canon/Nikon do continue to pull stunts with firmware upgrades that mess around with the AF of third party lenses or third party batteries suddenly stop working/report errors etc ... I've had several Sigma, Tamron lens that had developed sudden change of behavior after a firmware update from Canon/Nikon. True they can be fixed by the lens manufacturer's service center (if your city or country has one ... unfortunately, the country I live in, does not have a service center for third party lens manufacturers).

I do not think Canon has to care about third party lenses (unless there is a contract saying otherwise). Anyway if someone wants to risk with third party, it's their money. For me the actions of the past define the future. I have had my share with 3rd party lenses. Now I have sold anything Sigma and Tamron I had and I am left with a Zeiss.

 

[Albi86]

I agree with Rienz, this lens has to offer a particularly good price/quality advantage to be competitive.

The Canon is super good and super expensive, with a rumored IS version coming up next.

The Tamron is outstanding in price/performance and also has VC.

Sigma eventually needs to refresh their f/2.8 zooms too.

 

[tron]

So if their new lens firmware is not upgradeable by the buyers feel free to risk your money to ... save some in the first place.

Fortunately these times are over now. Almost every programmable circuit nowadays uses flash memory for holding its firmware, and flash memory can be reprogrammed, usually with the circuit in place. As a result, Canon has not pulled another "we'll change the protocol a tiny bit so some third party lenses won't work with new camera models" stunt since 2003.

I think Canon/Nikon do continue to pull stunts with firmware upgrades that mess around with the AF of third party lenses or third party batteries suddenly stop working/report errors etc ... I've had several Sigma, Tamron lens that had developed sudden change of behavior after a firmware update from Canon/Nikon. True they can be fixed by the lens manufacturer's service center (if your city or country has one ... unfortunately, the country I live in, does not have a service center for third party lens manufacturers).

+1 Having flash memory (if they indeed have flash memory) is NOT ENOUGH. It's their willingness to backup their lenses with GOOD SUPPORT. So, they have to MAKE the firmware to upgrade the one residing in ... flash memory... So, as I said feel free to spend your money and test good support later. And by later I mean many years actually as many as with Canon lenses. Because if someone gets an expensive lens with very good IQ they want to keep using it or ... sell it. Certainly not ditch it...

 

[Rudeofus]

+1 Having flash memory (if they indeed have flash memory) is NOT ENOUGH. It's their willingness to backup their lenses with GOOD SUPPORT. So, they have to MAKE the firmware to upgrade the one residing in ... flash memory... So, as I said feel free to spend your money and test good support later. And by later I mean many years actually as many as with Canon lenses. Because if someone gets an expensive lens with very good IQ they want to keep using it or ... sell it. Certainly not ditch it...

You just brought up a great new idea: third party makers could add a USB connector to their flash devices or make a special USB dock for their lenses. This would make firmware upgrades really easy ....

 

[Rienzphotoz]

+1 Having flash memory (if they indeed have flash memory) is NOT ENOUGH. It's their willingness to backup their lenses with GOOD SUPPORT. So, they have to MAKE the firmware to upgrade the one residing in ... flash memory... So, as I said feel free to spend your money and test good support later. And by later I mean many years actually as many as with Canon lenses. Because if someone gets an expensive lens with very good IQ they want to keep using it or ... sell it. Certainly not ditch it...

You just brought up a great new idea: third party makers could add a USB connector to their flash devices or make a special USB dock for their lenses. This would make firmware upgrades really easy ....

For several years now, Metz, (a German consumer electronic company) has been routinely providing firmware updates on their flashes (for customers to update on their own), to address compatibility issues with newer cameras. I still have the Metz 58 AF 1 flash (which I bought in 2008) and have updated the firmware at least twice, until the plastic hot shoe broke ... now it just sits in my cupboard to be used as a wireless flash once in a while. Also, Sigma has the USB dock for their newer lenses. I think in future we will see more and more manufacturers coming up with USB firmware updates for their lenses and flashes etc.