Touchscreen Coming to EOS 5D Mark IV? [CR1]

[Canon Rumors]

<p>We’re told that there’s a good possibility that one of Canon’s professional cameras will get a tilting touchscreen LCD. We don’t think such a thing would appear on the EOS-1D X Mark II, but could find a home on the EOS 5D Mark IV. Both the tilting and touchscreen LCD features are asked for by a lot of Canon shooters.</p>
<p>The EOS 5D Mark IV isn’t going to be an incremental update, so expect lots of new technology added to the nameplate.</p>
<p>This comes from a new source.</p>

 

[YuengLinger]

Nooooo...

The more gimmicks, the less chance of a sensor breakthrough.

Ok, maybe I could live with A rugged well executed touch screen. But a flip screen is just a hazard.

 

[addola]

It would be useful for macro shots on live view. But then they should have nice features like focus peaking and exposure preview with flash.

I use Canon 6D and I find myself needing to stick my head in the bushes to take a shot with reversed lenses and a flash. Not very convenient.

 

[Bennymiata]

Being left eyed, I'd really appreciate a swing out screen as I put persperation from my face all over the screen.

 

[mackguyver]

Being left eyed, I'd really appreciate a swing out screen as I put persperation from my face all over the screen.

+1 and it would be nice for macro and studio work, but it better be rugged.

 

[Proscribo]

But a flip screen is just a hazard.

Where does this myth come that flip screen would be more vulnerable to damage than a fixed one?

I'd think it's even the other way around, as you can optionally turn the flippy screen around so that the screen itself isn't even exposed.

 

[sunnyVan]

I would have no trouble believing that a flip screen would appear on a new 6d model. But on 5d series? Much harder to believe!

 

[pedro]

Whatever we see as an improvement in IQ is of higher priority for me... But maybe for astro at night I could like a flip screen...

 

[Mr Bean]

Nooooo...

The more gimmicks, the less chance of a sensor breakthrough.

Ok, maybe I could live with A rugged well executed touch screen. But a flip screen is just a hazard.

+1. A touch screen I don't have an issue with. But a flip screen is just something else to break off. Being held onto the camera by a solitary connection is increasing the chance of something going wrong. Sure, for macro work, I would like it. But, that's why I bought the right-angled finder.

 

[PhotographyFirst]

Nooooo...

The more gimmicks, the less chance of a sensor breakthrough.

Ok, maybe I could live with A rugged well executed touch screen. But a flip screen is just a hazard.

Of course. The is a mountain of evidence that flippy screens are a hazard and break all the time. I mean, just look at the countless threads on DPR and CR of people snapping off their screens. Biggest gimmick ever invented by mankind!

Seriously though, I bet the number of people hurting their back, knees, and necks from not having a flippy screen is many times greater than the number of flippy screens that have broken.

If the flippy screen is not put into a 5D4, it's because of the buttons on the left side, not because Canon can't make one strong and weather proof. Making a hinged screen weather proof and strong could be done by even the most incompetent engineers.

Edit:

A google search for broken articulating screens yielded nothing at all for me.

Here's a thread poll on POTN. Tons of users with cameras that have articulating screens. Failure rate is pretty much zero.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1017777&page=1

 

[wsmith96]

I welcome the addition. I doubt they would add it to the 5D if it were flimsy. Has anyone had a negative result with an articulated screen? I've had a 60D for a while with no issues. I can't comment on the touch part.

 

[lidocaineus]

I registered JUST to say this:

For all you people who think tillable and/or articulating screens are delicate or weaken a body, all I have to say is you must have very limited shooting experience.

- There has been no evidence of articulating screens being the source of numerous returns, warranty claims, or malfunctions.

- The usefulness of an articulating screen is incredible. Being able to shoot easily from different levels without having to contort your body into weird positions is a godsend, and if you think it's only when you shoot macro, again, I have to wonder what kind of shooting you do. And no, a 90 degree viewfinder won't help you when you're holding your camera above your head or dropping it close/on the ground. And have you ever tried to shoot yourself in a group? Do you know how much easier it is to flip a screen 180 degrees and get the framing right in real time?

- If you're worried about damage, you realize you can keep the screen locked in place, right? And that if it's an articulating screen, you can actually protect the screen even more by having it face the inside?

Once you use a hinged screen you realize just how limiting a fixed screen is. I love my 5DIII but I've lost count of the number of times I've wished I had my old 60D's rotating screen. These arguments against tilting and articulating screens are tiring.

 

[TWI by Dustin Abbott]

I registered JUST to say this:

For all you people who think tillable and/or articulating screens are delicate or weaken a body, all I have to say is you must have very limited shooting experience.

- There has been no evidence of articulating screens being the source of numerous returns, warranty claims, or malfunctions.

- The usefulness of an articulating screen is incredible. Being able to shoot easily from different levels without having to contort your body into weird positions is a godsend, and if you think it's only when you shoot macro, again, I have to wonder what kind of shooting you do. And no, a 90 degree viewfinder won't help you when you're holding your camera above your head or dropping it close/on the ground. And have you ever tried to shoot yourself in a group? Do you know how much easier it is to flip a screen 180 degrees and get the framing right in real time?

- If you're worried about damage, you realize you can keep the screen locked in place, right? And that if it's an articulating screen, you can actually protect the screen even more by having it face the inside?

These arguments against tilting and articulating screens are tiring.

Here, here - a compelling first post.

 

[Maximilian]

I expect Canon beeing able to design this good and rugged.
But I also expect the body to become more edged and thicker.
This I don't like about the idea of a tilting screen.
And I also don't like finger marks on a fixed touch screen where I'd like to see the sharpness of a pic.

So definetly not my most desired feature for this camera.

 

[greger]

If you break a flippy screen on your camera, your gonna break your camera. I think having a flippy screen plus the other improvements will have some people over the moon with glee!

 

[unfocused]

And I also don't like finger marks on a fixed touch screen where I'd like to see the sharpness of a pic.

Sorry, don't mean to be rude, but that makes no sense at all.

If you are worried about finger marks on a screen, don't touch it. It's as simple as that. Just because a camera has a touch screen, it doesn't mean you have to use it. It's just a simpler, more efficient way to cycle through the menus and change settings. And, honestly, you are more likely to get marks on a screen from putting your eye up to the viewfinder and your cheek/nose against the camera, whether it is a touch screen or not.

There is no legitimate reason to object to a touch screen -- just myths. The only legitimate reason to object to a flip screen is that the hinge takes up additional real estate on the back of the camera, so the right-side buttons would need to be relocated.

 

[douglaurent]

The 5D4 still will be so far behind the A7R2 regarding specs, that such things are the minimum you can expect from Canon to show at least a handful of arguments to buy this camera. Also it would be no problem to release 2 different 5D4 versions, so that those who think less is more are still satisfied.

 

[ahsanford]

If the rumor turns out to be true:

1) As a long time resistor of flippy screens (principally for cost, more s--- that can fail, etc.), I'll live. I will just keep that screen locked on the body at all times.

2) One would imagine the 6D2 would also be a certainty to get a flippy screen now. Only the 'built for war' field rigs -- the 7D2 and 1DX/1DX II -- or the super cheapo 1200D slot would probably not get one in the future.

3) Canon apparently didn't like my gamechanger idea of making a modular LCD mount for the 5D line. (Want rigid? It's kitted with the body. Want tilt only or tilty-flippy? $199 add on, they snap on an off like a cartridge.) Our loss, I guess -- that would have been awesome.

- A

 

[ahsanford]

The 5D4 still will be so far behind the A7R2 regarding specs, that such things are the minimum you can expect from Canon to show at least a handful of arguments to buy this camera. Also it would be no problem to release 2 different 5D4 versions, so that those who think less is more are still satisfied.

You know what, you're right. I'm going to sell all my Canon gear right now.

[queue REO Speedwagon's "I Can't Fight This Feeling Any Longer"]

- A

 

[YuengLinger]

y..

And I also don't like finger marks on a fixed touch screen where I'd like to see the sharpness of a pic.

Sorry, don't mean to be rude, but that makes no sense at all.

If you are worried about finger marks on a screen, don't touch it. It's as simple as that. Just because a camera has a touch screen, it doesn't mean you have to use it. It's just a simpler, more efficient way to cycle through the menus and change settings. And, honestly, you are more likely to get marks on a screen from putting your eye up to the viewfinder and your cheek/nose against the camera, whether it is a touch screen or not.

There is no legitimate reason to object to a touch screen -- just myths. The only legitimate reason to object to a flip screen is that the hinge takes up additional real estate on the back of the camera, so the right-side buttons would need to be relocated.

You do have to use the touch screen if canon has removed the buttons!

Flip screens are for kids with toy cameras, seriously.