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Types of Photographers (Seinfeld Edition)

mackguyver said:
Slide rules - Ha! In my day we used an abacus and had to walk to school uphill, both ways.

CarlTN said:
Humorous, but I don't really see the connection as to which Seinfeld characters match up to the ones listed.

Sorry in advance if I take this too seriously or diverge from where the OP originally wanted this thread to go!!

For me personally, my life is most like George on Seinfeld! But my photography isn't...and doesn't really apply much to Seinfeld. In that world, everything is funny and relatable. In the real world you kind of have to make life funny and see the humor in everything yourself, because life overall, is anything but funny. If you disagree, you haven't watched a family member die slowly yet...

Most people don't have a "good" sense of humor, or even think the show 'Seinfeld' was funny...or even ever watched it. Part of this is generational, and much of it is regional, but most of it is gender related. Women usually watch tv shows about women nowadays, for example. If Seinfeld was a single woman about town who always dished about sex-capades, fashion, drinking, clubbing, travel, and food with her girlfriends, then they would watch. Since it wasn't "Sex and the City", they weren't interested. Was "sex and the city" funny? To most women it was. Is "Family Guy" funny? I used to not like it, but have come to appreciate it more. Why do I mention it? Because 'Family Guy' is the true "guy humor" equivalent to "sex and the city", where "Seinfeld", was more of a timeless classic that will (and is even now) compared to other TV classics such as "I Love Lucy", etc. "Seinfeld" is more comparable to the "Simpsons"...it had sophistication and didn't always stoop to the lowest common denominator such as fart jokes or extreme violence such as chopping people's heads off, etc. But it's the cruelty in the humor aspect of 'Family Guy' that makes it the equivalent of 'sex and the city'. In particular, look how Meg is treated...
Carl, no apology necessary - this isn't a serious topic, so divergence is interesting, not troublesome. I could explain all of the Seinfeld references but it might take a while to write it all out. If you got some of them, or found any humor in the post, then I was successful. I've seen each Seinfeld episode way too many times, so it was easy to load them with all of the craziness of the show, which I agree is more timeless than most comedies.

And yes, life is hard, and humor is necessary. I try to laugh at myself often and in that spirit with lots more Seinfeld references:

The Comedian - his photos aren't funny, but he thinks he is - always offering a witty or sarcastic remark. Like his fictional counterpart's double purchase of a Cadillac, likes to buy (Canon) things twice at great expense. He has no interest in sharing his commercial work, and prefers to work alone to avoid Ovaltine-obssessed mentees riding his coattails. Cashiers don't respect what he does, and his two photo books have been flagged by Brentano's bookstore. He shoots with a (gripped ;D) 5DIII because he can't "afford"a 1DX despite having spent enough on Rebels, XXDs, 7Ds, to buy 3 of them. A long-term sufferer of G.A.S., he recently had to seek treatment for his latest relapse, but unlike Kramer, he prefers doctors to veterinarians even if they are superior because they "gotta be able to cure a lizard, a chicken, a pig, a frog, all on the same day." He recently celebrated Festivus but realized that St. Nick doesn't put new Canon gear under aluminum poles, even without distracting tinsel. Finally, he has been injured for several months, but the other day, he worked out with a dumbbell and now he feels vigorous!

Nice job tying so many episodal anecdotes together! I really like the later episodes, currently on our fox network reruns are from early 1997...but I also like the older episodes...like the one a week or so ago where they were trying to attend a play, and the insane clown guy talking to Kramer while waiting in line, Kramer says he was always afraid of clowns as a kid. Insane clown guy asks, "are you still afraid of clowns?"...Kramer: "Yea-hhhh"....hahaha :P
 
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PS, I were dream to be Photographer since I am 7 years old, And My Daddy let me use his Rolliflex and Leica, But When I grown up, I know that My brain and My heart do not have Artistic ability, Just "Form follow Functions"---That why I go to school and Be Architect, Make Money/ Easy Money, and Beg my wife( my Vice President/ Book Keeper in the Company) to buy the Tons of Photography equipment for The Office Equipments---Yes, I get them in my ways---Ha, Ha, Ha, But, I must do 2-3 Wedding Photos per years, and Do the Photos for the county tourism department for booklet= Afew US Dollars, Just for my CPA. and My Happyness, Who can call my self as " The Low PRO "-----Ha, Ha, Ha.---Ha, Ha, Ha.
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Surapon! You are awesome!
I did the same and dream of being great at my hobby
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your family!
Seán
 
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I am of Slavic descent (Russian in particular), so the Latvian one intrigued me...

1. I love my 7D's. Far too much (all of you have heard this too often!)

2. I LOVE the look of the 7D auto-white balance!!! I never take it off auto, and only occasionally tweak in post.

3. I did start an application for a CPS account, but stopped short, fearing Canon would find out I am not a full time paid shooter (We fear the KGB, and know it knows so much.)

4. I am infamous for writing on my hands, and also an important lecture on a small scrap of paper from the backing of a sticker.

5. I have no 70D, but wouldn't anyway because I hate video. I have a 5D mk II, because my wife loves the look of it's files. It does great permanently mated to my 24-105, and shoots only landscapes, because, it is useless for any other application.

6. I shoot an old Takumar on occasion, because I cannot find a battery for my Rebel G. I really SOOO tried to buy velvia once, but it was not in stock. Now, I would still get it, if I looked online, I believe they are making it again, but, unlike my artistic Latvian cousins, I am cheap.

7. Velvia really is the most seductive of the film stocks.

8. I am amazed and in awe of how well this fits me!!!
 
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Still have the bamboo K&E in a closet. Lost the Rapidographs years ago. Still have a David White sextant and sight reduction tables (H.O. 229) I used in the Pacific and Indian Oceans when I was a young man with a full head of black hair. During a tedious Pacific crossing, I became somewhat proficient with an abacus, nothing's faster for adding and subtracting. My only experiences with T-squares were during my pitiful attempts at drafting (I was wretched), but I used to wield a mean three-arm protractor in my naviguessing days. Now you just get lat and long with a Garmin. Or a 6D! And both are faster and more accurate. Shot a Nikon F2 and a Nikkormat back then.
 
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Hi Folks
First thanks Mackguyver for the laugh, really liked the personalised references to Mr Surapon and to Neuro, very clever and funny without being mean or rude.
Don't remember slide rules but do remember long calculations done using log tables!
I spent 14 very happy years as a toolmaker doing all my own drawings using paper pencil T square and adjustable protractor triangle.
I finally succomed to the need to make things again and bought a Colchester lathe with 48 inch bed, the manual that came with it was a replacement in 1957 but it is a beautiful bit of kit to me! I wish more things today were as durable as that chunk of iron, not broken or obsolete like everything today seems to be after such a short time.

Cheers Graham.


Don Haines said:
JPAZ said:
Nice thread.

Question for Surapon. I do remember T-squares. How many of use used slide-rules?

I am at a stage where the long-term memory is still intact. The rest, well..

Happy Holidays.
Still have my slide rule....
 
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emag said:
Still have a David White sextant and sight reduction tables (H.O. 229) I used in the Pacific and Indian Oceans when I was a young man with a full head of black hair. During a tedious Pacific crossing, I became somewhat proficient with an abacus, nothing's faster for adding and subtracting. ..... I used to wield a mean three-arm protractor in my naviguessing days. Now you just get lat and long with a Garmin.

Ah. A comrade! Some vaguely remember the days before ***. I also remember using a LORAN!
 
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Since so many of you seem to have done drafting, I admit I did it in a high school class which lasted 3 hours every day. I was 15 to 16 years old. The teacher was usually gone for 1 to 2 hours at a time. The class was 95% male, and turned into "lord of the flies" while the teacher was gone. I learned how to prank and get pranked. I got to see a lubricated condom stretched over a soda pop bottle...then watched as the unsuspecting butt of the joke guzzled the drink. We all laughed, and when he was told what had been done, he got sick. Another favorite with drink bottles, was where they would put graphite from sharpened drafting pencils, around the lip of the bottle. The person would have a dark ring around their lips, and was promptly laughed at. One of the more dangerous weapons they would make, would be a ball made out of masking tape pieces that were used to hold the corners of the paper down. Someone had made a heavy ball about the size of a softball (took 2 or 3 years to become that size)...but it was not soft! It was hard as steel!! There were various fights as well. My former best friend at the time, was convinced it would be funny to sneak up behind me while I was at my drafting table working, and cut a huge gash out of the back of my hair with scissors. After I decided what to do in retaliation, it also was not pretty. I squirted black ink all over his white shirt his parents had bought him for his birthday. He then tried to wash it in the sink, and his white shirt turned a very irregular, splotchy gray! The least fun thing that happened to me in particular, was where someone came up behind me and got me in a hold, while someone else held an open pocket knife to my neck. The remark was "you're not so tough now are you?". After this class, I decided drafting was not for me!!
 
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JPAZ said:
Ah. A comrade! Some vaguely remember the days before ***. I also remember using a LORAN!
Yup - LORAN-A, LORAN-C, Omega and the mercifully defunct Navy Navigational Satellite System (NNSS). NNSS posited us consistently about 50 miles inland all along the northwest coast of Borneo. Before this thread I hadn't thought about those days for years.
 
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Thanks you sir, Dear Mackguyver and all friends, You made my beautiful Saturday morning to day= Fill with smile, Laugh and Happyness to read great post like this. Yes, Human life are too short, The Smile, Laugh and Happyness in every days will make our life happy and live longer, plus have a great meaning to live, Yes, Because of Closed Great Friends near by, Are better than Our relative are live far away.,
Have a happy holiday, and may all Gods in this world and Lord Buddha Blessing you and your family to have a great health and get all the good wishes that you want in this coming year 2014---That Include getting 1DS MK IV, 3D, 7D MK II and EOS-M MK II.
Surapon, Your friend.
 
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surapon said:
Thanks you sir, Dear Mackguyver and all friends, You made my beautiful Saturday morning to day= Fill with smile, Laugh and Happyness to read great post like this. Yes, Human life are too short, The Smile, Laugh and Happyness in every days will make our life happy and live longer, plus have a great meaning to live, Yes, Because of Closed Great Friends near by, Are better than Our relative are live far away.,
Have a happy holiday, and may all Gods in this world and Lord Buddha Blessing you and your family to have a great health and get all the good wishes that you want in this coming year 2014---That Include getting 1DS MK IV, 3D, 7D MK II and EOS-M MK II.
Surapon, Your friend.
+1!
you also Surapon!
 
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Ha, Ha, Ha---Thankssss, Dear Spl and Efka 76.
Sorry, 5D MK IV will not come yet this coming 2014, Because Canon Still sell 5D MK III like the hot cake, We can see in the far future if Canon 5D MK III price drop to $ 1700 US Dollars, That will be the sign that The New 5D MK IV is comming soon---Similar to EOS-M Price drop from $699 to $ 299---Yes, I will fly to Japan soon, to get EOS-M MK II Which sell only Japan and Asia.
Nice to talk to you Both.
Happy Holiday.
Surapon
 
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AprilForever said:
I am of Slavic descent (Russian in particular), so the Latvian one intrigued me...

AFAIK, I wouldn't really call Latvia Slavic per se at all and the Latvian language speakers were not really of Slavic descent. I know many in the U.S. seem to think of Latvia as some sort of Eastern European and Russian land, but that's basically a total misconception simply because the U.S.S.R. was occupying the country recently and the whole Eastern Block/Western Block thing. Latvia is Western/Northern European and more tied to Germany/Sweden/Norway, if anything, and really not so much Eastern European and it really had nothing to do with Russia whatsoever. The culture and vibe really was not Russian at all, but much more like Northern Europe or Germany. The alphabet is a modified western (modern Latin) one, not Cyrillic. The language retains more archaic forms than most other Indo-European ones still around.

I mean the U.S.S.R. took control of Latvia for a few decades post WWII since they wanted the nice sea port on the Baltic and all but that was basically the Russian connection, that the lands got taken over and occupied by force for a few decades (1940-1941 and 1945-1991), although the population is about 30% of Slavic decent currently now.

(and getting back to the Seinfeld episode, the whole big thing with the Latvian Orthodox church was 100% totally made up and somewhat ridiculous (granted most things on Seinfeld are ridiculous), yes the Slavic countries were almost all Orthodox or Catholic, but Latvia is not and it's mostly Lutheran and I hate to say it but basically not a single Latvian thing in the episode is even remotely Latvianish at all)
 
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LetTheRightLensIn said:
AprilForever said:
I am of Slavic descent (Russian in particular), so the Latvian one intrigued me...

AFAIK, I wouldn't really call Latvia Slavic per se at all and the Latvian language speakers were not really of Slavic descent. I know many in the U.S. seem to think of Latvia as some sort of Eastern European and Russian land, but that's basically a total misconception simply because the U.S.S.R. was occupying the country recently and the whole Eastern Block/Western Block thing. Latvia is Western/Northern European and more tied to Germany/Sweden/Norway, if anything, and really not so much Eastern European and it really had nothing to do with Russia whatsoever. The culture and vibe really was not Russian at all, but much more like Northern Europe or Germany. The alphabet is a modified western (modern Latin) one, not Cyrillic. The language retains more archaic forms than most other Indo-European ones still around.

I mean the U.S.S.R. took control of Latvia for a few decades post WWII since they wanted the nice sea port on the Baltic and all but that was basically the Russian connection, that the lands got taken over and occupied by force for a few decades (1940-1941 and 1945-1991), although the population is about 30% of Slavic decent currently now.

(and getting back to the Seinfeld episode, the whole big thing with the Latvian Orthodox church was 100% totally made up and somewhat ridiculous (granted most things on Seinfeld are ridiculous), yes the Slavic countries were almost all Orthodox or Catholic, but Latvia is not and it's mostly Lutheran and I hate to say it but basically not a single Latvian thing in the episode is even remotely Latvianish at all)

Latvians here substitute for generic Slav. Do not hate! :) Remember, from the Russian standpoint, all East Europe is Slavic!! (Or should be...)

Also, the 7D is a far more Russian style camera of use. Imagine, Hitler's troops, if cameras were guns (as the Youtube videos seem to show sometimes). They would be using 1DX's and even medium format SLR's. Stalin's men would have had to have slugged it with 7D's, a mixed hand full of Rebels, and sigma and Tamron lenses.
 
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AprilForever said:
LetTheRightLensIn said:
AprilForever said:
I am of Slavic descent (Russian in particular), so the Latvian one intrigued me...

AFAIK, I wouldn't really call Latvia Slavic per se at all and the Latvian language speakers were not really of Slavic descent. I know many in the U.S. seem to think of Latvia as some sort of Eastern European and Russian land, but that's basically a total misconception simply because the U.S.S.R. was occupying the country recently and the whole Eastern Block/Western Block thing. Latvia is Western/Northern European and more tied to Germany/Sweden/Norway, if anything, and really not so much Eastern European and it really had nothing to do with Russia whatsoever. The culture and vibe really was not Russian at all, but much more like Northern Europe or Germany. The alphabet is a modified western (modern Latin) one, not Cyrillic. The language retains more archaic forms than most other Indo-European ones still around.

I mean the U.S.S.R. took control of Latvia for a few decades post WWII since they wanted the nice sea port on the Baltic and all but that was basically the Russian connection, that the lands got taken over and occupied by force for a few decades (1940-1941 and 1945-1991), although the population is about 30% of Slavic decent currently now.

(and getting back to the Seinfeld episode, the whole big thing with the Latvian Orthodox church was 100% totally made up and somewhat ridiculous (granted most things on Seinfeld are ridiculous), yes the Slavic countries were almost all Orthodox or Catholic, but Latvia is not and it's mostly Lutheran and I hate to say it but basically not a single Latvian thing in the episode is even remotely Latvianish at all)

Latvians here substitute for generic Slav. Do not hate! :) Remember, from the Russian standpoint, all East Europe is Slavic!! (Or should be...)

Also, the 7D is a far more Russian style camera of use. Imagine, Hitler's troops, if cameras were guns (as the Youtube videos seem to show sometimes). They would be using 1DX's and even medium format SLR's. Stalin's men would have had to have slugged it with 7D's, a mixed hand full of Rebels, and sigma and Tamron lenses.

OK, ok, yes, but Latvia is northern European and didn't particularly tie-in to Russian culture at all (not that it really matters) but I mean come on to somehow tie in Latvians with Stalin and his army??? Stalin sent tons of Latvians to death camps in Siberia. You might as well say that Hitler and his armies were French if you are going to start making associations like that then. And that blue substitutes generically for green.
 
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