AAPhotog said:paul13walnut5 said:Jim O said:The truth is she wouldn't be able feed her child with pride.
This is a horrific reflection on your parenting. There are many ways to earn a living and feed your kids. Becoming a prostitute, bartering sex for success needn't be one of them. Any daughter I have will value herself more.
A hypothetical properly raised daughter would have left the hypothetical room at the first hypothetical hint of anything untoward.
You are looking increasingly nutty and increasingly isolated.
KIDS. IF SOMEBODY EVER TRIES TO MAKE YOU DO SOMETHING YOU DO NOT WANT TO DO, KICK, PUNCH SHOUT FIRE. GET OUT THE ROOM AND CALL THE POLICE.
Don't think 'Oh my career' or 'How shall I feed my kids' and tolerate it.
Yet, I would be the bad parent, for teaching my kids morals, self respect?
You hit it right on the head, sir!
Said by two non-parents with no clear sense of reality.
I'll take my PROVEN parenting skills over either of your "if" parenting skills any day. My three adult children have in fact been taught better. But several things you'll learn should you ever be privileged enough to have one or more:
- You can't be there all the time.
- Kids make bad choices. The ones who have been well parented make fewer of them and learn from them.
- Virtually all children, especially adolescents and young adults, go through a period where anything a parent recommends is highly likely to have the opposite of the desired effect.
Now some things about every decent parent:
- They love their kids unconditionally. This is a type of love that people who do not have kids might think that they understand. They do not even if they think that they do. Think back to this when you are holding your first child in the delivery room and you will admit I was right about it.
- A good parent will do anything to provide food, shelter, and safety for his or her child. That means anything. You cannot understand this. Why? See the comment directly above this. I would kill for any of my children without hesitation or guilt.
Once again, I will state it:
One cannot feed his or her child with pride. Perhaps one of you non-parents would argue this but it is the case. Had I had to prostitute myself in order to feed and clothe and shelter them I would have done it gladly and without second thought. Happily for me, that never happened. For some there are few if any options. Go ahead and tell me that loving my children unconditionally makes me "nutty".
Anytime either of you ignoramuses want to compare parenting skills and experience, have three children and a combined nearly 70 years of parenting and you'll have some standing. Right now neither of you do. For the record, two of my children have college degrees and one is still an undergraduate. One is about to finish a masters in public health and then go to Senegal in the Peace Corps for two years. She plans a career in public health in HIV/AIDS prevention and treatment in the third world. What a terrible kid, huh? One is a highly successful computer engineer who could probably buy and sell either (perhaps both) of you for lunch. He lives in one of the most expensive zip codes in Manhattan and he's completely self made. He hasn't needed to ask for a penny since he finished college. Also a terrible kid I guess, and highly reflective of my terribly "nutty" parenting skills. None have an alcohol or drug problem. None have ever been arrested. There have been no unplanned pregnancies. Oh, and yes, I would know.
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