*UPDATE* 5D Mark III Sighting?

[kapanak]

Did anyone else notice the bird on LCD is the thought-to-be-extinct Ivory Billed Woodpecker? This gets more interesting every second.

So the next big Canon announcement would be with regards to the revival of an extinct bird through their genetics research department, eh?

 

[Stu_bert]

Re: 5D Mark III Sighting?

I believe this is a Canon employee being shot by another Canon employee (with a 5D mk III as well) for a controlled leak to hype up the camera. Why would Canon charter a safari outing with the public when they could just easily go on private outing?

Exactly, cameras can be tested in Japan just as well as any other location.

I want my 5d3.

Perhaps as the 200-400mm is aimed at nature photographers, and pairing it with the 1Dx to test the combination makes sense in the real world, in real conditions??

And since flying from Japan to Kenya and staying in the Mara is not cheap, they threw in another body for comparison.

The 1DX, 600mm and 200-400mm are all announced. The fever on the site is due to the other body which clearly the tester slightly slipped up on, but not really. He did not inform anyone, he just had a picture taken of him by another photographer who then decided to tell the world....

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

Re: 5D Mark III Sighting?

Oh dear god, no. Not that stupid mode dial unlock button.

You obviously don't spend a lot of time with a camera hanging by your side.

I do. Hours and hours walking around streets with my 5DII hanging at my side, or hours and hours hiking through the wilderness with my 7D hanging at my side.

Number of times I've accidentally rotated a mode dial? Perhaps 3-4.

Number of missed shots resulting from that? One - the first time.

Number of times I've looked up to see an action scene unfolding on front of me or a bird flying close by, and been able to quickly spin the mode dial to the hard stop at C3 to get the shot? Probably in the hundreds.

Number of missed shots resulting from having to press a button before spinning a dial? I don't know, but I can almost guarantee it'll be more than one.

Good point though that it would make it trickier to use C functions to replace their feeble AutoISO modes. SO maybe they finally have delivered fully working autoiso ;D. And maybe they also keep video and stills settings apart so they don't get mixed, makes it a pain to swap stills and video shooting now as you settings are a mess and if each needs to be constantly adjusted for conditions just a total mess.

Although for your specific usage it might not quite do it and the lock might still bother you.

 

[Stu_bert]

Re: Feel sorry for the photographer...

Looking at the labels on the lenses, I'm pretty sure someone at Canon knows exactly who it is and what body and lenses they are using.

I hope the photographer in question doesn't suffer because of this.

Just looking at the location would suffice, I doubt there are too many people in Kenya with that kit

I think that the tester has not revealed too much. I think that the fact it is in a public place means Canon is not too worried about leaked photos. Having been to the Mara last September, everyone looks at what the other vehicles' shooters are using. Canon is not stupid. But apart from the excitement on this forum, and soon elsewhere on the net, have they really let any IP slip?

I share your concern however, that they will not punish the tester for talking to another photographer - but again, one presumes he was briefed as to what he was allowed to do / say....

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

Did anyone else notice the bird on LCD is the thought-to-be-extinct Ivory Billed Woodpecker? This gets more interesting every second.

Looks like archaeopteryx to me!
Curiouser and curiouser ;D


(being serious, as I suggested earlier it is a guinea fowl, and as someone later said it is the helmeted type, I thought it looked familiar, shoot those a few years ago)

 

[traveller]

The next generation will be called; 1d "Y", because it's that good....

No, Y will be because everyone will ask "Y" are we meant to upgrade... By the next generation everyone will have totally lost interest, so it will be generation "Z", followed by "ZZ" and "ZZZ"!

Seriously, I just went out for a couple of hours and I came back to find fifteen pages of 5D MkIII... Whoa! I'm just surprised how little the "3D" has been mentioned! Ah, what the hell, I'll start it... Maybe Canon has two new full frame prototypes, the 5D MkIII and the higher-spec 3D; that would explain why we're hearing rumour with such wildly different specifications... [There, I said it!]

 

[pwp]

Re: 5D Mark III Sighting?

Oh dear god, no. Not that stupid mode dial unlock button. To me, that's one of the most useless additions that Canon can put on a semi-pro body. I can see the reason for putting it on the 60D, but come on. Anyone using a 7D or higher should have some idea of what they're doing and in all my years of photography I've never heard of anyone accidentally switching the mode dial unintentionally. If the new 5D is in fact coming standard with the unlock button, I hope that one can "downgrade" and remove it. Even for a fee, I'd do it.

It depends entirely how you work. My experience with 5D and 5D2 has been constant, highly irritating, professionally embarrassing bumping of the mode dial. This primarily happens when working with two or more bodies. When I know I'm working in certain conditions, I routinely lock the mode dial with gaffer tape.

The lock is an essential and welcome upgrade.

Paul Wright

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

Did anyone else notice the bird on LCD is the thought-to-be-extinct Ivory Billed Woodpecker? This gets more interesting every second.

So the next big Canon announcement would be with regards to the revival of an extinct bird through their genetics research department, eh?

i think some were spotted in Arkansas and Florida a few years ago
so it seems they've been putting this new 5D3 through it's paces for a while

 

[fussy II]

Did anyone else notice the bird on LCD is the thought-to-be-extinct Ivory Billed Woodpecker? This gets more interesting every second.

Even found a picture of an Ivory hammering a tree: http://cdn2.arkive.org/media/F2/F2C1E94F-8F8B-475A-8688-17AD57F2CC71/Presentation.Large/African-elephant-stripping-bark-from-an-acacia.jpg

 

[Stu_bert]

I'd be very surprised if this was a replacement for the 5D2 as it's got so much of the 7D about it. Also why would you test a 5D replacement on wildlife? That's 7D territory isn't it?

The large pentaprism housing could simply be that large for aesthetics / ergonomics and it is still APS-C or maybe H.

Interesting that no-one seems all that bothered that the 200-400 and 600 lenses are clearly on show here but all we care about is what body he's using them on!

The first thing I noticed was indeed the 200-400mm lens, and then I looked at the guy resting the collar on a bean bag and winced. Personal preference I know, but if I mount on a wimberly then I use the collar / tripod mount obviously. When I use the beanbag, I flip the collar around and rest more of the lens on the bag - just gives me more stability and sharper shots, but hey that's probably more a reflection on me ;D

 

[thatcherk1]

It's too bad that the tester didn't leave the camera body on a bar stool in Redwood City, California.

I'm referencing http://gizmodo.com/5520438/how-apple-lost-the-next-iphone for the uninformed.

 

[Loswr]

Re: 5D Mark III Sighting?

Oh dear god, no. Not that stupid mode dial unlock button.

You obviously don't spend a lot of time with a camera hanging by your side.

I do. Hours and hours walking around streets with my 5DII hanging at my side, or hours and hours hiking through the wilderness with my 7D hanging at my side.

Number of times I've accidentally rotated a mode dial? Perhaps 3-4.

Number of missed shots resulting from that? One - the first time.

Number of times I've looked up to see an action scene unfolding on front of me or a bird flying close by, and been able to quickly spin the mode dial to the hard stop at C3 to get the shot? Probably in the hundreds.

Number of missed shots resulting from having to press a button before spinning a dial? I don't know, but I can almost guarantee it'll be more than one.

It's really not that hard. You don't use an extra hand and the other finger that is required is generally not far away (for most people, anyway.)

Do you have a 60D or mode dial-converted 7D or 5DII that you've done this with? Currently, the camera hangs at my right hip on a BlackRapid strap. I grab it with my right hand and as I'm bringing it up in front of my body, I rub the mode dial across the palm or fingers of my left hand as that hand reaches for the lens barrel. It's one smooth, fast motion, and I can't see how having to use a thumb or finger to press a button and then spin the dial can be as smooth or as fast.

OTOH, I run into this mostly with the 7D and birds. So, in a 5DII replacement it probably isn't a big deal. Personally, considering that I'm planning to get a 1D X with no dial at all, changes are in order for me, regardless.

 

[wickidwombat]

Re: 5D Mark III Sighting?

Oh dear god, no. Not that stupid mode dial unlock button. To me, that's one of the most useless additions that Canon can put on a semi-pro body. I can see the reason for putting it on the 60D, but come on. Anyone using a 7D or higher should have some idea of what they're doing and in all my years of photography I've never heard of anyone accidentally switching the mode dial unintentionally. If the new 5D is in fact coming standard with the unlock button, I hope that one can "downgrade" and remove it. Even for a fee, I'd do it.

It depends entirely how you work. My experience with 5D and 5D2 has been constant, highly irritating, professionally embarrassing bumping of the mode dial. This primarily happens when working with two or more bodies. When I know I'm working in certain conditions, I routinely lock the mode dial with gaffer tape.

The lock is an essential and welcome upgrade.

Paul Wright

Oh yeah aint that the truth!

 

[Craig Richardson]

Perhaps the photographer is sending us a coded message in the EXIF data. The pic is 25.2 megapixels, why not 25 exactly? Because the new camera has 25 megapixels and is .2 or version ii, therefore it is code for 7D mk ii. ;D

 

[Gothmoth]

Re: 5D Mark III Sighting?

It's really not that hard. You don't use an extra hand and the other finger that is required is generally not far away (for most people, anyway.)

yep it´s not as if you need a third hand.

 

[coltsfreak18]

Perhaps the photographer is sending us a coded message in the EXIF data. The pic is 25.2 megapixels, why not 25 exactly? Because the new camera has 25 megapixels and is .2 or version ii, therefore it is code for 7D mk ii. ;D

Unfortunately, the sqrt of 25 is 5, so it might signify a 5D MkII, hence the .2, replacement. Oh the dilemma we face...

 

[Ryusui]

Re: 5D Mark III Sighting?

Hmmm I thought it was the PROs who had MOST asked for that feature.
I've heard them complain of it switching as it rubs against chest as they are chasing down a shot and then they whip it up for a shot and it's a mess.

yes.... you have to carry the camera like a child all the time if you never changed the mode dial by accident.

some handle the gear not so gentle....

I admit, I presume that I take better care of my gear than many, but it does hang from an RS-7 and bumps around quite a few times.

 

[gmrza]

Re: Feel sorry for the photographer...

Looking at the labels on the lenses, I'm pretty sure someone at Canon knows exactly who it is and what body and lenses they are using.

I hope the photographer in question doesn't suffer because of this.

Just looking at the location would suffice, I doubt there are too many people in Kenya with that kit

I think that the tester has not revealed too much. I think that the fact it is in a public place means Canon is not too worried about leaked photos. Having been to the Mara last September, everyone looks at what the other vehicles' shooters are using. Canon is not stupid. But apart from the excitement on this forum, and soon elsewhere on the net, have they really let any IP slip?

I share your concern however, that they will not punish the tester for talking to another photographer - but again, one presumes he was briefed as to what he was allowed to do / say....

The shooter would be under strict instructions as to what he can/can't say. Canon also will not allow use of gear in public if it should not be visible. There's no IP lost here. Canon will definitely want to test bodies and lenses in places like Kenya, to actually observe performance under dust/temperatures etc. in which they will actually be used - much the same way vehicle manufacturers seek out very hot, very cold, very dry, very wet and very dusty locations for testing.

If Canon wanted to be more unobtrusive, shooting wildlife, the Kruger Park would offer better opportunities to photograph wildlife without drawing too much attention to yourself. There are also loads of private game farms/reserves in South Africa and Botswana where you could arrange to test gear without others being able to observe. I don't think Canon's priority was on being unobtrusive.

 

[traveller]

Re: 5D Mark III Sighting?

Oh dear god, no. Not that stupid mode dial unlock button.

You obviously don't spend a lot of time with a camera hanging by your side.

I do. Hours and hours walking around streets with my 5DII hanging at my side, or hours and hours hiking through the wilderness with my 7D hanging at my side.

Number of times I've accidentally rotated a mode dial? Perhaps 3-4.

Number of missed shots resulting from that? One - the first time.

Number of times I've looked up to see an action scene unfolding on front of me or a bird flying close by, and been able to quickly spin the mode dial to the hard stop at C3 to get the shot? Probably in the hundreds.

Number of missed shots resulting from having to press a button before spinning a dial? I don't know, but I can almost guarantee it'll be more than one.

It's really not that hard. You don't use an extra hand and the other finger that is required is generally not far away (for most people, anyway.)

Do you have a 60D or mode dial-converted 7D or 5DII that you've done this with? Currently, the camera hangs at my right hip on a BlackRapid strap. I grab it with my right hand and as I'm bringing it up in front of my body, I rub the mode dial across the palm or fingers of my left hand as that hand reaches for the lens barrel. It's one smooth, fast motion, and I can't see how having to use a thumb or finger to press a button and then spin the dial can be as smooth or as fast.

OTOH, I run into this mostly with the 7D and birds. So, in a 5DII replacement it probably isn't a big deal. Personally, considering that I'm planning to get a 1D X with no dial at all, changes are in order for me, regardless.

I can't see why Canon didn't just design a seperate lock switch that you could turn on or off instead of the 'push and turn' design. That way if you don't want to lock the mode dial, you don't have to use it.

 

[drozz]

I'd be very surprised if this was a replacement for the 5D2 as it's got so much of the 7D about it. Also why would you test a 5D replacement on wildlife? That's 7D territory isn't it?

The large pentaprism housing could simply be that large for aesthetics / ergonomics and it is still APS-C or maybe H.

Interesting that no-one seems all that bothered that the 200-400 and 600 lenses are clearly on show here but all we care about is what body he's using them on!

Yep, why a 5d in the wild?...
I repeat wht I wrote before: in 2007 canon celebrated their 20th EOS anniversary in the same Kenya safari and introduced their
sporty camera the 1dmIII...

Its obvious!! Canon is showing off the new AF in the 5d3. And probably the 6-8fps. Why wouldn't Canon use probably their best focusing, new tech lens to show it off?

Everyone for the last 2+ years wanted the full frame version of the 7d... well here it is. Similar layout and everything.