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Richard8971

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Oct 3, 2011
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I'll try not to bore you with my history details but I think I am wanting another camera. Let me try and explain...

I began shooting about 6 years ago with the XTi, a decent camera that I picked up used for a great price. As with most people who get into photography seriously I quickly "outgrew" the XTi, not because it is a bad camera, far from it. I had really starting enjoying photographing wildlife and I found myself wanting more than just 3fps, not to mention a larger camera body as I have large hands. I am not a "more megapixels are better" kind of person so I started looking for an affordable upgrade. The 60D had not been released yet and the reviews between the 40D and 50D pretty much stated that the image quality between the two are almost identical. Not to mention that the 40D, at the time was about $400-$600 cheaper than the 50D. So I settled for a very lightly used 40D (3800 clicks) for $500 bucks. The price increase for the 50D wasn't worth the few more features it had over the 40D. In fact I loved it so much I purchased a second 40D recently ($250) as a back up for my 7D.

I loved the image quality it had over the XTi (14 bit color vs 12 bit color) and the much faster frame rate. I had used it for a few months before I lost it to a theft. My insurance company offered me $1100.00 to replace it so I put up a few hundred more and bought the 7D for $1550.00

Now I LOVE my 7D, it does exactly everything I ask of it and more. I don't want to go full frame, even though I do love the way they process color, but I have been looking at the 1D mark 4. Right now, used copies run about $3000 ~ $3400. I don't mind dropping from 18MP to 16MP because, like I said at the beginning, I am not worried only about MP. I would love to gain a higher frame rate and I hear the AF system on that particular camera is lightening fast. The APS-H sensor would be a trade between FF and APS-C. I would imagine the slightly lower MP and larger sensor than the 7D would result in lower noise at higher ISO. I am not overly worried about the 7D noise because I don't "pixel peep" my images and any noise from high ISO images (ISO 2000+) don't show up in my 11 x 14 prints.

I shoot on a regular basis with the battery grip on my 7D so handling the larger body I would already be used to.

My question is, is the 1D4 worth $3000 over already owning the 7D? I figure it would be a great affordable alternative to the 1DX, I think the camera every one of us wants! LOL.

I appreciate your thoughts. Again, I don't want the 5D3. I am not really interested in going FF (unless it's the 1DX, got 7b grand handy?), so please keep your comments about the 1D4, I'm not really interested in hearing about how the 5D3 is superior to the 1D4. Nothing personal, I just want to keep this thread about the subject I am asking. :)

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Not by the sounds of your use and output, and that is not belittling it at all.

If you are as happy with your 7D as you sound then the 1D MkIV won't add much, other than it being a 1 series.

There are several drawbacks to the 1D series too, mainly lenses. Your EFs lenses won't fit on it so compatibility becomes an issue, there are no ultrawide zooms suited to the APS-H sensor size either. As with all digital 1 series, yes it has the built in grip, but that means you can never make it smaller, sometimes no grip is a much nicer way to go.
 
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privatebydesign said:
Your EFs lenses won't fit on it so compatibility becomes an issue, there are no ultrawide zooms suited to the APS-H sensor size either. As with all digital 1 series, yes it has the built in grip, but that means you can never make it smaller, sometimes no grip is a much nicer way to go.

I don't own (even though I love some of the EF-s lineup) any EF-s lenses so that is not going to be an issue. True, there are times I like taking the grip off... Hmmm...

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Ruined said:
If your 7D is still functioning, might be wise to see what the 7D2 brings next year for a whole lot less cash.

I understand that but I am not going to wait for a camera that hasn't even been released yet. If any such 7D2 is released while I am still in the decision making process, then that will be a different story. For now, the 1D4 is real and is a tangible option. The 1D4 is still a professional body and far from being obsolete. I can't imagine no matter how impressive any 7D2 is, it won't be a professional body for the price it will likely be released at. The 1D4 would probably have several advantages over it, at least that's my best guess at the moment.

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takesome1 said:
For wildlife it is a worthy upgrade.
The AF system is leaps and bounds above the 7D.
The micro-contrast and the files directly out of the 1D IV are much better than the 7D's.
It will be an upgrade you will not regret. It is an upgrade I made several years ago.

For the past 6 years I have rarely gone outside wildlife and for the few times I have done landscape and people, my cameras have been sufficient.

That's what I was hoping to hear.

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Richard8971 said:
My question is, is the 1D4 worth $3000 over already owning the 7D? I figure it would be a great affordable alternative to the 1DX, I think the camera every one of us wants! LOL.

I don't own a 1d (my bank account would object), but I'm with you that the 1d4 is a dream camera for outdoor (photo journalism, wildlife). It doesn't run Magic Lantern :-) but apart from that aps-h sounds about perfect because it still uses the lens' best bit and has a narrower fov. Since the 1d4 has a near-endless shutter rating I would gather a purchase not to be regretted if you have the $$$... but (yes, you don't want to hear it) only accompanied by the iq of a newer ff camera like the 6d.
 
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