Upgrading from 5DIII to 5DIV -- your probable reasons?

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#21
j-nord said:
Im upgrading from my 6D so Im looking forward to 35 mpix at 8fps, huge DR boost, ISO boost, color boost, smaller body, lighter, better AF, f8 AF on all AF points, longer battery life, cheaper, and most importantly Im excited that it will be pink.
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It isn't going to be pink. It will be puce. :) :) :) :)
 
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#22
5D Mk2 is aging, is well past it's projected shutter life,
5D Mk3 ditto - and buying a brand new one will currently
likely give me one with firmware incombatible to Magic Lantern.

5D Mk IV will be a little better in everything and a lot better in video.

It will be the major industry workhorse refreshed.
Licked it, mine.

Nikon will show an APS-C mirrorless for Photokina with 28MP. Yes.
Canon will likely show M4 (M Pro?), 6D Mk2 and a FF mirrorless for
Photokina, Olympus will show the OM-D E-M1 MkII.

But Canon will be next right this month with the 5D Mk IV.
 
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#23
Hey I am going to be perfectly honest here, the only reason I will be purchasing the 5Div is G.A.S. That's it plain and simple. My 5D3 is the perfect camera, but it will be 3 years old in October, and I want a new toy!!!!
 
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#24
Besides wanting to go FF, it's the anticipated improved video for me. I bought the 70D because if you are going to have video, it needs to be able to track a moving target in AF. Or IMO don't do it at all. At that time to my knowledge, the 70D was the best best SLR camera Canon had with that feature. Also, as my first FF camera, like computers I want the latest tech to give the longest service life without feeling left behind right after purchase. Plus, who doesn't like new toys?
 
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#25
A well balanced, well rounded jack of all trades camera like the mark III, but with much needed upgrade in IQ. I never really hated the old mark II but it had some odd quirks in image quality at low iso and really didn't cut over iso 1600.
 
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#26
Drum said:
Hey I am going to be perfectly honest here, the only reason I will be purchasing the 5Div is G.A.S. (...) I want a new toy!!!!
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When I get a new camera I tend to go out and take more pictures for around the next 18 Months (based on the last 8 years stats). So the joy of having something new can certainly inspire taking more photos and thus be a perfectly good reason to get new stuff.

I'm conservative with camera bodies. But I have enjoyed buying/selling lenses a lot over the last several years. Shooting various exotic lenses for a year or two and then selling them again for a very marginal loss - or even sometimes a small profit. Big whites, fisheye, super fast primes, T/S. I could wish for all photographers to have the chance to shoot with it all.
 
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#28
Drum said:
Hey I am going to be perfectly honest here, the only reason I will be purchasing the 5Div is G.A.S. That's it plain and simple. My 5D3 is the perfect camera, but it will be 3 years old in October, and I want a new toy!!!!
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Just as good a reason as any my friend! Ooo-rah! :)
 
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#31
The only reasons I am going to upgrade:

- Dynamic Range
- Slight increase to MP count (anything slightly closer to 28 MP is good). Not a must but would be added bonus.
- Quicker and More accurate AF. 5D MKIII isn't too bad but I think there is definite room for improvement.

Something that shouldn't even be included:

- GPS. No clue why this is so seemingly important to anyone. It doesn't make your photos any better.

Freebie:

Wifi file transfer - Again not a must. I might use something like this 10% of the time. Would be more meaningful in a mirrorless.

Wishful thinking:

IBIS as mentioned by everyone else.
 
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#33
dilbert said:
I don't think the 5DIV/5DX is going to be that great. For the statistic lovers, it will have a few more fps, a moderate increase in MP and do 4K ... but otherwise it'll just be like the 5DIII. Thus I can't see a reason to upgrade, unless 7fps vs 6fps is a compelling reason? The thread about how using Sony bodies is a bad idea because of lens size has pretty much convinced me that the reasons to choose Canon are fast disappearing. So the "probable reason" - there is no reason to do it.
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Have you ever shot under crappy stadium lighting? Two words: flicker reduction.

That alone was worth the price of upgrading from the 7D to the 7D Mark II. Going from having about 7 out of every 10 frames ruined by the differences in light from one side of the frame to the other in terms of brightness and color, seeing color temp vary from one side of the frame to the other, seeing it vary by as much as 500-800K (also on the M <---> G axis) from one frame to the next, getting really ugly narrow spectrum light at the darkest point, and having the overall exposure vary by as much as two stops from peak to trough in the lighting cycle, to having every single frame look the same in terms of brightness and color is transformative.

Where shooting raw and custom post-processing of each individual frame was needed to get color and exposure remotely right, now the results are consistent enough to do batch processing or even shoot straight to JPEG and be able to use a much higher percentage of the frames taken.

Not only that, but since the camera times the shutter release with the peak of each light cycle I can now shoot at 2/3-1 stop faster under the same lights! Where I used to shoot at 1/500, f/2.8, ISO 2500 I can now shoot at 1/1000, f/2.8, ISO 2500, or 1/640, f/2.8, ISO 1600, etc. This also increases the keeper rate.

The much improved AF of the 7D Mark II compared to the 7D made it usable, but I'd love to have this feature in a FF body without springing $6K for the soon to be released 1D X Mark II. As improved as the AF in the 7D Mark II is over the 7D, it's still not as consistent from shot-to-shot as the 5D Mark III. The narrower baseline of the APS-C sized mirror and PDAF array limits it in terms of accuracy compared to its FF counterparts.
 
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#34
Memdroid said:
Don't forget the most powerful custom function: Assigning the AI Servo- OneShot switch on the AF-ON button. The 5d3 was missing this and so did I :)
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I prefer to use the DoF preview button. It's already directly under the ring finger of my right hand when shooting.

But I also tend to turn off AF with the shutter button most of the time. Half pressing the shutter button starts metering but does not start AF. Pressing the AF-ON button starts AF, releasing it effectively locks AF. IF I'm in AI Servo and release the AF-ON button, for all practical purposes I just switched to One Shot!
 
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#35
My primary reasons to upgrade from MkIII to MkIV would be to pick up the unannounced but inevitable improvements, plus my Mk III is now very high milage, it's on it's third shutter and might appreciate a graceful retirement.

-pw
 
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#36
pwp said:
My primary reasons to upgrade from MkIII to MkIV would be to pick up the unannounced but inevitable improvements, plus my Mk III is now very high milage, it's on it's third shutter and might appreciate a graceful retirement.

-pw
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At how many clicks did they break? My 1dx went at 167k.
 
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#37
I do not own a 5d3 however i do own a 5dsr, 1dx and have preordered the 1dx2. For me to buy this camera i will require these specs and in order of highest priority

DPAF
Clean HDMI out
C-log
60fps 1080p
13 stops DR
1Dx2 autofocus system
External mic and headphone jack
Low light high iso quality between 1dx and 1dx2
24MP+

4K would be nice

Basically i want to have every reason to buy this camera over a C100mk 2 so ill have a nice backup to the 1dx2 when im not using this for video. If the above specs are confirmed then ill sell my 1dx for 3,000. The 1st 3 specs however are a must.
 
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#38
Can't see them not including 4K into this camera, as Nikon seems to be including it in lower end cameras (D500), and all other cameras in this price range from other manufacturers have it. They might limit it to 24p to protect the 1DXII, given that the 1DXII actually is a merge of the 1DC and the 1DX as some say.

I totally agree with your first three points. C-log in the 5DIV and no 1DCII might suggest C-log in a firmware update for the 1DXII though.

brianftpc said:
I do not own a 5d3 however i do own a 5dsr, 1dx and have preordered the 1dx2. For me to buy this camera i will require these specs and in order of highest priority

DPAF
Clean HDMI out
C-log
60fps 1080p
13 stops DR
1Dx2 autofocus system
External mic and headphone jack
Low light high iso quality between 1dx and 1dx2
24MP+

4K would be nice

Basically i want to have every reason to buy this camera over a C100mk 2 so ill have a nice backup to the 1dx2 when im not using this for video. If the above specs are confirmed then ill sell my 1dx for 3,000. The 1st 3 specs however are a must.
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#39
The 5DIII is so good Canon might find it difficult to impress.

What would make me upgrade
a) My 5D III is well worn (it looks very worn even though its minded quite well - the black outside wears easily on my 5D III. I am showing alot of metal
b) Better ISO performance - at least one stop. The 7DII is poor in terms of ISO performance. The 5D III in its time was very good but I'd want the 5D IV to be visibly better allowing me to get clean images in low light when the only choice is increase ISO. Of a similar standard to the 1DX II would be good enough for me.
c) Better dynamic range on the sensor. Alot of people here think there's no requirement to have a better dynamic range on the sensor. Maybe it's where you live but alot of shots I take are in high contrast conditions. Sports are not played at sunrise or sunset. Photos can suffer simultaneously from over and under exposure. Often its recoverable but overexposed sky doesn't always look great when highlights are reduced. I'd like a sensor with a bit more dynamic range.
 
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