Wait for Sigma 50mm Art or purchase Canon 135 f2L.

sagittariansrock said:
candyman said:
surapon said:
Dylan777 said:
You forgot the portrait KING, Canon 85L II

yes, Plus 1 for me too, Dear friend Dylan777.
But, I do not have the " ART" of Sigma yet, Just old Sigma 50 mm F/ 1.4
I Agree with you, I use my dear EF 85 MM F/ 1.2 L MK II for all Portraits and Wedding Photography---And 50 mm, Plus 135 mm are sit on the shelf most of the time , Yes, I use 24-70 F/ 2.8 L and 70-200 f/ 2.8 L IS. with me all the time too.
Have a great work week, Sir.
Surapon

These are dangerous photos for those of us that suffer from G.A.S ;)

@OP I use the 135 for portrait and indoorsports

+1.
I hardly use the 85mm FL and have no particular need for a designated portrait lens, but that front element looks sexy! (Although, reportedly it isn't very ergonomic)

First photo is 85L II @ f1.6, something that 135L can't match ;) 135L would be my 2nd choice for portrait on Canon gear.

I recently shoot quite a bit with my A7r + Zeiss FE 55mm(second photo). This camera has "eye-detection" feature, therefore, composing the shot is very easy. I think we all know how fun it is to compose the shot with big aperture lenses ;D
 

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Dylan777 said:
First photo is 85L II @ f1.6, something that 135L can't match ;) 135L would be my 2nd choice for portrait on Canon gear.

I recently shoot quite a bit with my A7r + Zeiss FE 55mm(second photo). This camera has "eye-detection" feature, therefore, composing the shot is very easy. I think we all know how fun it is to compose the shot with big aperture lenses ;D

I need to find someone to sell me the 85L for $1500. I'm jealous.
 
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Dylan777 said:
First photo is 85L II @ f1.6, something that 135L can't match ;) 135L would be my 2nd choice for portrait on Canon gear.

Totally agree with the fact that 85L is THE portrait lens. It's just something I want, but don't particularly need (looking at my most-used FL histograms, at least). :)
By the way, when you say 'eye detection' does it mean it detects the subject's eye, or is it eye-controlled focus like the Elan 7NE/EOS 3?
 
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Gooniesneversaydie11 said:
You could always sell the 85mm with its terrible CA and pick up a 100mm f/2. Then pick up the 50mm ART. You didn't mention which body you have, but the 100mm f/2 gets the same dxo overall score on a 6D and 5D MKIII as the 135mm albeit a shorter focal length.

I must be blind to the purple and green fringing on the 85mm... I swear in the year and change that I owned it... I didn't see many... if any examples of CA. So weird. And I know when and where it shows up... and I used it in a ton of different settings...
 
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sagittariansrock said:
Dylan777 said:
First photo is 85L II @ f1.6, something that 135L can't match ;) 135L would be my 2nd choice for portrait on Canon gear.

Totally agree with the fact that 85L is THE portrait lens. It's just something I want, but don't particularly need (looking at my most-used FL histograms, at least). :)
By the way, when you say 'eye detection' does it mean it detects the subject's eye, or is it eye-controlled focus like the Elan 7NE/EOS 3?

To be exact, this feature calls "Eye AF", in "Custom Key Setting". You need to assign this "Eye AF" to one of the button on your camera. In my case, I assigned to Center Button.

Camera will focus on subject eye, by pressing down Center Button( in my case). By the way, the eye AF is VERY-VERY accurate. Even at wide open aperture.

Check this video @ :55 Sony A7, A7R Eye-AF Test
 
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Dylan777 said:
sagittariansrock said:
Dylan777 said:
First photo is 85L II @ f1.6, something that 135L can't match ;) 135L would be my 2nd choice for portrait on Canon gear.

Totally agree with the fact that 85L is THE portrait lens. It's just something I want, but don't particularly need (looking at my most-used FL histograms, at least). :)
By the way, when you say 'eye detection' does it mean it detects the subject's eye, or is it eye-controlled focus like the Elan 7NE/EOS 3?

To be exact, this feature calls "Eye AF", in "Custom Key Setting". You need to assign this "Eye AF" to one of the button on your camera. In my case, I assigned to Center Button.

Camera will focus on subject eye, by pressing down Center Button( in my case). By the way, the eye AF is VERY-VERY accurate. Even at wide open aperture.

Check this video @ :55 Sony A7, A7R Eye-AF Test

I have no clue what I'm looking at. Was he focusing on his computer screen? Why not do something in 3 dimensions... heck a ruler... but ok. That is a cool feature... though I think the demonstration is lost on me.
 
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Dylan777 said:
Camera will focus on subject eye, by pressing down Center Button( in my case). By the way, the eye AF is VERY-VERY accurate. Even at wide open aperture.

Got it, thanks!

jdramirez said:
I have no clue what I'm looking at. Was he focusing on his computer screen? Why not do something in 3 dimensions... heck a ruler... but ok. That is a cool feature... though I think the demonstration is lost on me.

The only ruler with eyes I could find online. A bit creepy if you ask me...
 

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sagittariansrock said:
Dylan777 said:
Camera will focus on subject eye, by pressing down Center Button( in my case). By the way, the eye AF is VERY-VERY accurate. Even at wide open aperture.

Got it, thanks!

jdramirez said:
I have no clue what I'm looking at. Was he focusing on his computer screen? Why not do something in 3 dimensions... heck a ruler... but ok. That is a cool feature... though I think the demonstration is lost on me.

The only ruler with eyes I could find online. A bit creepy if you ask me...

And here I thought that the camera tracked where your eye was looking and then focused there. Silly me.
 
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I'm finding that the ""EOS iTR AF" face detect mode (which is through the viewfinder, not LiveView) in the 1D X works exceptionally well on people and wildlife alike. I haven't had the camera for very long, but people, deer, and owls are all giving it a thumbs up :)

Back to the lens debate...the Sigma's looking better by the day (sharp [as in Otus sharp], no distortion, low CA, low LoCA, pretty good bokeh, color & contrast) and if it comes in around $1,000 it will be quite a lens.
 
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mackguyver said:
I'm finding that the ""EOS iTR AF" face detect mode (which is through the viewfinder, not LiveView) in the 1D X works exceptionally well on people and wildlife alike. I haven't had the camera for very long, but people, deer, and owls are all giving it a thumbs up :)

Back to the lens debate...the Sigma's looking better by the day (sharp [as in Otus sharp], no distortion, low CA, low LoCA, pretty good bokeh, color & contrast) and if it comes in around $1,000 it will be quite a lens.

It will still be a Sigma...and thus will have a stigma...
 
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CarlTN said:
mackguyver said:
I'm finding that the ""EOS iTR AF" face detect mode (which is through the viewfinder, not LiveView) in the 1D X works exceptionally well on people and wildlife alike. I haven't had the camera for very long, but people, deer, and owls are all giving it a thumbs up :)

Back to the lens debate...the Sigma's looking better by the day (sharp [as in Otus sharp], no distortion, low CA, low LoCA, pretty good bokeh, color & contrast) and if it comes in around $1,000 it will be quite a lens.

It will still be a Sigma...and thus will have a stigma...

Nice line... but @ 949 per the email I got this morning... it is a steal.
 
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jdramirez said:
CarlTN said:
mackguyver said:
I'm finding that the ""EOS iTR AF" face detect mode (which is through the viewfinder, not LiveView) in the 1D X works exceptionally well on people and wildlife alike. I haven't had the camera for very long, but people, deer, and owls are all giving it a thumbs up :)

Back to the lens debate...the Sigma's looking better by the day (sharp [as in Otus sharp], no distortion, low CA, low LoCA, pretty good bokeh, color & contrast) and if it comes in around $1,000 it will be quite a lens.

It will still be a Sigma...and thus will have a stigma...

Nice line... but @ 949 per the email I got this morning... it is a steal.

But it won't have a red line on it...and thanks...occasionally I am clever.

Btw, if it's only $949, maybe the 35mm Art will come down to $600 or something. That would be nice.
 
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sagittariansrock said:
jdramirez said:
And here I thought that the camera tracked where your eye was looking and then focused there. Silly me.

I thought that at first, too. I had the 7NE- a very cool feature. Dunno why Canon discontinued it.

The Canon A2E also had eye controlled focus but the camera only had 5 AF points. I don't think you could do eye controlled focus with todays cameras with 5 dozen AF points. ;D
 
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AcutancePhotography said:
sagittariansrock said:
jdramirez said:
And here I thought that the camera tracked where your eye was looking and then focused there. Silly me.

I thought that at first, too. I had the 7NE- a very cool feature. Dunno why Canon discontinued it.

The Canon A2E also had eye controlled focus but the camera only had 5 AF points. I don't think you could do eye controlled focus with todays cameras with 5 dozen AF points. ;D

Neither could you, with the restless eye of today's average smartphone user :P
Anyway, Canon did not have this feature in their flagship models (e.g., EOS 1-v, although oddly v apparently stood for 'vision') with 45 AF points, so they could have given this feature to 6D or to the Rebels.
 
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So after reading your responses I ended up ordering the 135L. I thought you all might find it funny that I just pre-ordered the 50mm Art today. The 135 is an amazing lens.

Looking forward to the new art. I hope I'm not too far down the pre-order list.
 
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metacove said:
So after reading your responses I ended up ordering the 135L. I thought you all might find it funny that I just pre-ordered the 50mm Art today. The 135 is an amazing lens.

Looking forward to the new art. I hope I'm not too far down the pre-order list.

Awesome. I hope you are blown away by it... I am in the 85L camp right now, but I'm always willing to consider something else... though I think my next lens is going to be the sigma 24-70 f2... if it ever exists.
 
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