Well, well, well… could this be Canon’s lens roadmap for 2021? [CR2]

[Del Paso]

Autofocus tilt shifts are expected, I couldn't imagine Canon making a new mount and not thinking about how to make these possible and MF is a bit wonky for the new toys. And that line up of big whites seems to much for one year. Five big whites for the R1 in one year and not one of them being a ground breaking zoom? Though the 800/5.6 L is long overdue a new model.

Isn't the TSE 14mm whispering $4500 to our ears?
Fantastic news, not only for architecture, but also for landscapes (forests, deep canyons...)
The only lens I really miss is an affordable 500mm, like Nikon's.

 

[mpmark]

I don't see the point of the "Canon RF 100-400mm f/5.6-7.1 IS USM". Given we already got a "Canon RF 100-500mm f4.5-7.1 L IS USM" which is faster at the wide end and faster at the tele end for the same focal length. The only thing I can think of is that it's smaller or lighter or significantly cheaper. If it was f/5.6 at 400mm then I could see some advantage to giving up the 100mm of reach.

The 11-24 replacement seems to have gained 1mm at wide end again, just like the 15-35mm and it's EF equivalent. I see that the f/4 version of the 15-35 gains yet another 1mm at the wide end, 14-35mm.

I would have loved to see the long primes come with a built in switchable 1.4x TC built in (like the 200-400 f/4L) that was such a great idea.

really? You don’t see that one is L and one isn’t? That the price difference between the two will be substantial? That not everyone can afford the L version? Still don’t see it?

 

[YuengLinger]

Yes, it was confirmed that only a couple thousands units were produced and distributed in the US. Maybe you are in China where things are different though?

Yes, it has been confirmed that NONE have been produced since July, which is why they aren’t being delivered, duh.

Nobody has taken deliveries this week, that’s just made up ‍

Please go away paid Canon troll!

Did Canon confirm? Anonymous sources on the web cannot confirm anything. Rumors are fun, but don't confuse them with facts.

And I received an R5 last week. (Which was the "this week" CFB was talking about--today is Sunday.) What in the world are you talking about?

And, please, don't call regular members here who have expressed a wide range of opinions about Canon and many other topics "trolls." I'd suggest getting a little more sleep before posting insults, ok? Perhaps if you hadn't been so sleepy-sleepy (as I say to my four year old), you'd realize we have several threads about R5 deliveries, BUT YOU ARE POSTING YOUR ANGER IN A LENS ROADMAP THREAD!

 

[xps]

Have you tried the R5 with the EF100-400 and 2x extender , or even 1.4x and 2x stacked ?

My findings:
EF 100-400 II & R5 works super IQ&AF are very good
EF 100-400 II & 1.4x III & R5 works also very well. In the edges the pics are al little bit weaker & AF works slower in the edge-points. But with all other AF points really fast
With the 2x extender, mine R5 gets slower with AF-Fields out of the center, but fast enough for normal speeded BIF. IQ gets weaker outside of the center.

Limitation: I owned two extender 2x III, but one (i sold it) was definitively weaker than the one I still own. And a friend owns an extender that is much better than mine (I tried it). So - maybe - if you own better extenders, IQ will not go down like mine

 

[Deleted member 381342]

Isn't the TSE 14mm whispering $4500 to our ears?
Fantastic news, not only for architecture, but also for landscapes (forests, deep canyons...)
The only lens I really miss is an affordable 500mm, like Nikon's.

Things usually whisper dark secrets to my credit cards. And yes a 14mm tilt shift with AF would be a lens that can justify a R5 all on its own. Like the 500mm f/5.6 can justify its very own body.

 

[canonmike]

The 10-24 and 100 Macro are mine

Have to agree. The 10-24 put a nice smile on my face. Hope they make it, as I start saving my money in anticipation of its announcement. I'm sure this list has many fellow CR members drooling.

 

[Deleted member 381342]

It just crossed my mind. AF on a tilt shift makes a lot of sense if you are doing automatic stacked focus. I did this on my Nikon with the 50mm f/1.8 so I could have more than 1 inch in focus. So you get it all set up then set the how many pics you want and bang you have 100 shots at f/2.0 instead of needing something at f/22.

Edit: On a fast lens with your 20 FPS burst cameras and the possibility of 1/4000 or better, you don't usually end up with any weird stitching issues.

 

[canonmike]

I was expecting at least one EF-M lens

Don't give up hope just yet. It's just that RF lenses are where the action is right now. Perhaps, we'll see something accompanyning the Gen 2 M50, when it gets announced. Meanwhile, there's always Sigma to fill in the void. Still, looking at the upcoming projected RF list of new offerings, I must admit that this list looks pretty amazing. Bring em on, Canon....

 

[canonmike]

It's what you had to use back in the day when people wrote by making marks on clay tablets.

The DSLR is the perfect companion, designed to keep my dusty ole Canon EOS 3, Minolta SRT-101 and Pentax Spotmatic film bodies company, having been sitting patiently and ever so lonely now on my bookshelf for over 15 yrs. So, guys, please move over and make room for the DSLR(s).

 

[Richard CR]

Yes, it was confirmed that only a couple thousands units were produced and distributed in the US. Maybe you are in China where things are different though?

Yes, it has been confirmed that NONE have been produced since July, which is why they aren’t being delivered, duh.

would you care to share this "research"?

 

[Richard CR]

These rumored lenses won’t be released until 2022 at the earliest. And more than likely not until 2023.

Canon is having MASSIVE production issues; their flagship camera hasn’t shipped new units for 3 months, so any new lenses are going to be years delayed.

Don’t get your hopes up!

just to comment on this particular piece of interesting fiction.

even IF Canon was having issues with the R5, Canon is, well, the largest camera manufacturer on the planet. They have multiple factories, even for just camera bodies, not to mention different factories for lenses. The R5 would have little to do with lens delivery or even lens manufacturing. Assuming most of the lenses are not completely manufactured from automation (as they are doing most now), the people that assemble lenses are specialists that only assemble lenses, they don't assemble cameras and they don't even work at the same locations.

Also Craig's source on this is like .. gold.

 

[usern4cr]

I just re-bought the 135mm f/2 a month ago.

I've been hoping for a RF 135mm f2L USM and RF 105 f1.4L USM (with IS if possible, but OK if not).
The fact that you re-bought an EF 135mm f2 a month ago might show Canon how much this type of lens is desired. Maybe they can bring out more primes with 70 to 75mm apertures in the 105 to 135 range and up into the long telephotos? (eg 200 f2.8, 300 f4, 400 f5.6, 600 f8). They did this with the RF 800 f11 DO and I bought it. If they could also give them a big max. magnification (.3 to .5X) then they would be spectacular.

 

[[email protected]]

1. "Couple of thousand units." You have no idea how many were in the first run.
2. You have no idea how many were produced since July.
3. People have been taking deliveries this week.
4. Pandemic vs supply chain.

To pile on...

1) We know that some countries were severely short shrifted on body deliveries in the first run. It appears that - as anemic as it was - the US got a disproportionate share. We saw multiple stories from Germany of major city retailers getting one or none. This means that there was likely a great, yawning chasm of demand outside the US for the next batches.
2) Japanese manufacturers lose a great portion of their margin if they air ship product. Instead, they like to pulse batches via boat when practical. It appears a decision was made that people were going to get their cameras one way or another, and if it took an extra 6-8 weeks, that was fine with them.
3) The R5 does pretty much exactly what it says it'll do in its manual, that was written before Youtuber video guys got their mitts on it and collectively clutched their pearls, swooning from heat limits. The notion that Canon has the humility to believe its specs were so wrong that it needed to redesign anything a few weeks into a release is a different reality than the one I've been living in since I started shooting the brand about 20 years ago.
4) Evidence of such an alternate reality would be easily proven with the new batch cameras showing different capabilities or behavior. (And they don't.) There are 5 known issues wrong with the R5, and these haven't been addressed.


... and to bring this all home to Bryan's original post...
5) The idea that Canon is going to announce - never mind deliver - all these lenses in a year would be to say that Canon is going to triple its cadence of lens deliveries at a time when it has major supply bottlenecks. If Canon were a company that ever (ever) published a lens roadmap, you might think that this was merely an outline of what was to come for the next few years, but - frustratingly - Canon isn't a company that publishes roadmaps.
6) I was supremely wrong on the rumor about the R5, disbelieving that Canon was a company either capable or willing to put that much power in a mirrorless body at this point in time. I sincerely hope I'm as wrong this time with my skepticism as I was then.

 

[Deleted member 381342]

If Canon does release 5 super tele primes(At least 1 of them costing more than most cars), these could almost be built to order and few would be wise to it. Unless I am very much mistaken, Canon could today say you can order a 1200mm f/8 today and the five people able to buy one will put their orders in and wait the 3-6 months for their build to order lens.

 

[Ozarker]

How is that possible? I preordered from B&H in early July and haven’t received mine yet.

I don’t think you are being honest; the first batch is all that has shipped. Thousands of us that pre ordered haven’t even heard an update yet!

Well, he probably used a valid credit card.

 

[privatebydesign]

Yes, it was confirmed that only a couple thousands units were produced and distributed in the US. Maybe you are in China where things are different though?

Yes, it has been confirmed that NONE have been produced since July, which is why they aren’t being delivered, duh.

Nobody has taken deliveries this week, that’s just made up ‍

Please go away paid Canon troll!

I personally know somebody who got a new R5 from a New York retailer last week. Before she got it in the mail I told her to check the shutter count and look at it very closely for fingerprints and evidence of it being a return.

She said there wasn't a finger mark on it, all the bits were in their own plastic bags and none of those bags had been stressed where the clear tape was. Sutter count was set to continuous and when she put a clean card in it it had not been used. So pretty conclusively not a return.

 

[degos]

It just crossed my mind. AF on a tilt shift makes a lot of sense if you are doing automatic stacked focus

If you're doing focus-stacking on a tilt-shift then you've probably missed the point of tilting the focal plane...

 

[fox40phil]

No DO lenses?!
A new 1200mm ?! Really?

dayum!
It will cost maybe 20k€?!

135 1.8 would be enough otherwise it is to heavy...
But in the meantime they could build a new 200 1.8 ^^... and where are the 5.6 Tele ...

 

[Chig]

really? You don’t see that one is L and one isn’t? That the price difference between the two will be substantial? That not everyone can afford the L version? Still don’t see it?

I do wonder how the RF100-400 will compare with the EF100-400 ii in terms of price and performance

 

[Ian K]

Why a Canon RF 100-400mm f/5.6-7.1 IS USM if there is already a Canon RF 100-500mm f/5.6-7.1 IS USM

I missed it but the 100-500 is an L lens and the 100-400 is not. It will be much cheaper and likely not weather sealed etc.