What’s next from Canon?

[Ah-Keong]

Next would be the " 1DX iii " coming for the Olympics 2020
I hope the upcoming " 5DsR ii " or " 5D v " would have the specs of the Nikon D850.
by the way, where is the RF mount for 5DsR replacement ?

 

[12Broncos]

Let’s see. A response that reads as a meaningful sentence until you realise that wording is carefully constructed to be abstract enough to fit in almost any conversation. Can this be analysed? Your answer, please

Or...Somebody who is on a bizarre crusade to promote Sony, or somebody who pops into various forums to be contrary, or somebody trapped in a fortune cookie factory and forced to post the same theme over and over, or somebody who wants to be a political gadfly and comes to tech forums to practice? That's my analysis!

I hope Canon announces a Pro Mirrorless camera soon.

 

[rbielefeld]

As long as you can afford the new stuff and don't actually need to get paid enough to cover the cost plus make a decent living, it is.

Sell your older stuff to get the newer stuff. That is what I do. I got my a9 used for 2300 and a 200-600 costs under 2k. Then I adapt my already acquired Canon glass to the a9. Not an extravagant amount of new costs to try out a newer camera and lens IMO.

 

[StoicalEtcher]

That's not an unreasonable option. I do remember how camera store clerks seemed to be either clueless or impossibly arrogant (from the perspective of a newbie). Now I miss them!

Yes: but those features are big part of why they are now on the demise (or gone altogether in many instances) - too many of them were not customer-friendly enough, hence why so many (newbie) customers are happy to buy from the 'net.

 

[SteveC]

Yes: but those features are big part of why they are now on the demise (or gone altogether in many instances) - too many of them were not customer-friendly enough, hence why so many (newbie) customers are happy to buy from the 'net.

There are still some brick-and-mortar camera shops around; one here really takes care of me, whether it's a case of GAS or just making prints (at least they can alter the settings on their system, unlike Walmart).

But in most cases your choices are the web, Walmart or Best Buy. At Best Buy the sales rep is generally clueless but hasn't the integrity to ever answer a question with "I don't know." They'll make something up if they have to. Yuck.

 

[StoicalEtcher]

There are still some brick-and-mortar camera shops around; one here really takes care of me, whether it's a case of GAS or just making prints (at least they can alter the settings on their system, unlike Walmart).

But in most cases your choices are the web, Walmart or Best Buy. At Best Buy the sales rep is generally clueless but hasn't the integrity to ever answer a question with "I don't know." They'll make something up if they have to. Yuck.

Yep: still some good ones around. Here in the UK I'm lucky enough to be looked after by Dale Photographic in Leeds - a Canon and Leica specialist - who manage to combine decent knowledge, excellent customer service, and still match most web-prices (ignoring grey market).

 

[stevelee]

At Best Buy the sales rep is generally clueless but hasn't the integrity to ever answer a question with "I don't know." They'll make something up if they have to. Yuck.

Fortunately the sales guys at the Best Buy I go to are rather knowledgeable. If you go at times when there are several guys on hand, they will steer you to the one who specializes in the brand you are considering. The guy who sold me the 6D2 and the 16-35mm told me, when I bought the latter, that his photography business was picking up so much that he was cutting way back on hours in the store. He also expressed interest in hearing about my experience with the 6D2 when I would see him later.

When I was back there recently to look at the G5X II, the guy who helped me had helped me with something minor before, and I had gathered he knew what he was talking about.

The camera department at that store seems fairly well stocked with Canon and Sony gear, and I think a decent amount of Nikon, though I have not checked out the Nikons in a long time. Also, the web seems pretty good at letting you know what they have in stock. I think that store is trying to fill the vacuum from the demise of standalone camera stores in the area.

 

[Michael Clark]

Sell your older stuff to get the newer stuff. That is what I do. I got my a9 used for 2300 and a 200-600 costs under 2k. Then I adapt my already acquired Canon glass to the a9. Not an extravagant amount of new costs to try out a newer camera and lens IMO.

That still does nothing for the fact that images one could sell for $500 15 years ago now go for $5, and Getty keeps half of that and you have to give them all rights.

I was mostly referring to the new RF glass, which is not cheap.

The need to always have backup bodies and lenses when shooting professionally also complicates the timing of things when changing systems. If your 200-600 went on the fritz what other long telephoto lens do you already own that would work on an α9?

 

[McRphoto]

I'm anticipating seeing the M5 Mark II announced in February 2020. I remember thinking in 2017 when the M6 was announced that Canon would have generally been better off announcing the M6 first and the M5 later. Obviously there were reasons for the decision, but my guess is those reasons pertained to factors no longer relevant. The rumors of the M6 Mark II replacing the M5 don't hold water. In the marketing materials for the Canon operations around the world, the M5 continues to hold the flagship position (except in HK, where it's no longer even listed). Canon USA would not have told someone that the M6 Mark II replaces M5 (even if it does) if Canon is going to continue to sell the M5 and market it as the flagship. Before someone says "Canon does everything for a reason," I point you to Canon Australia's YouTube error. DPReview either didn't understand the nuance of Canon's statement or Canon's agent misspoke, unless I see something concrete that says otherwise. There's also not a lot of point to some of the feature restrictions in the M6 Mark II if you're not going to position a camera above it. I would be surprised if Canon saw EOS M sales as a potential threat to the more lucrative R ecosystem, so with a flagship EOS M, they're really just building it to be a threat to competitors, particularly if the flagship EOS M comes in at a price point equal to the RP.

I totally agree. It doesn't make sense that the M6 MKII replace de M5. I think there's something special coming for the M5.

 

[SteveC]

I totally agree. It doesn't make sense that the M6 MKII replace de M5. I think there's something special coming for the M5.

I'll wildly speculate here: Maybe they are going to put out something that can (mostly) succeed the 7D line. (Obviously, if someone hates EVFs, they won't ever agree it's a replacement for their 7D, regardless of other specs.) The fact that it would be an M mount shouldn't matter as every single lens that works on a 7D will work on any M camera.

 

[koenkooi]

I'll wildly speculate here: Maybe they are going to put out something that can (mostly) succeed the 7D line. (Obviously, if someone hates EVFs, they won't ever agree it's a replacement for their 7D, regardless of other specs.) The fact that it would be an M mount shouldn't matter as every single lens that works on a 7D will work on any M camera.

I've been thinking about that as well, and I can't decide what is more unlikely for Canon to do: A 'big' EF-M camera, or an RF APS-C camera.
And furthermore, since I have both an M and RF camera, I can't even decide which one I would like best, a big camera that can also use the EF-M 32mm f/1.4, 22mm, 11-22mm, etc or an crop RF that can use those fancy new RF lenses.

 

[SteveC]

I've been thinking about that as well, and I can't decide what is more unlikely for Canon to do: A 'big' EF-M camera, or an RF APS-C camera.
And furthermore, since I have both an M and RF camera, I can't even decide which one I would like best, a big camera that can also use the EF-M 32mm f/1.4, 22mm, 11-22mm, etc or an crop RF that can use those fancy new RF lenses.

The idea of taking the R mount and putting an APS-C sensor behind it doesn't make sense to me, to be honest. (However; I know that whether it makes sense to me doesn't matter a heck of a lot.) On the other hand, APS-C cameras really ought to get some truly awesome lenses, so coming up with L lenses for the M mount would be fantastic. It's as if Canon has a built-in mentality that APS-C is for the non-serious photographer, who simply won't be interested in top-end lenses, or a huge variety of them. Of course, you have access to some pretty darned good lenses with the M mount--they just need that adapter.

 

[jbracy]

5DX or 1DX? A 1DX certainly is coming, a 5DX would seem .. "odd"

I’m just saying what I heard. That the update to the 5D m4 would be called the 5DX. Seems like Canon don’t like to go to a Mark 5. Similar to how the 1DX was an update to the 1D m4.