What Canon Body is threatened buy the Nikon D5200?

[docholliday]

Nikon is not really threatening any Canon camera, and Canon is not threatening Nikon.
Each have their proponents, but buyers of that level of camera are most often guided by the price. They go down to Best Buy, and checkout the price of a camera / lens kit and, if it looks professional to them, they buy it. Then, it sits in a closet because the images all look out of focus due to the shallow depth of field, and the controls are too complicated.
Of course, most of those who post here know what they are doing, but they are also a tiny minority.

I've bought many (un)used cameras locally from the closets of buyers who went back to point and shoot cameras because they like everything to be in focus, and they like the ease of use.

My advice to someone wanting a DSLR is to first help them to determine if they really understand what they are getting into. I gave my daughter one of my Canon DSLR's and lenses, I think it is gathering dust as well, since she prefers the old Nikon CP-990 I gave her many years back. She mostly takes photos of projects she has made to list on Etsy or Ebay, and the CP-990 is fantastic for that.

Oh please. No need to be so elitist. Give people more credit. Most people aren't that dumb. Yeah there are many who just use auto on their dslr, but many consumers actually want to learn and that's the reason why they buy the camera in the first place. And these days, people know what specs are and can tell which one is better. If they can't, most people have friends who do know to ask for advice. I mean, people get started somehow right? I started using a DSLR without a clue what any of the settings were but I learned.

Actually, no people aren't that dumb - they're that gullible. Yup, they read those specs. They read the reviews. But, those specs and reviews are taylored for that exact type of person - the consumer. It's called marketing. Can an 8mp camera do "better" than a 24mp? Yes, if that 8mp MF sensor is in the hands of a person who knows what they're doing and/or if the 24mp is a P&S TINY sensor. I've seen 6mp shots that are 40x60 that people swore was shot on a MF camera. The consumer actually doesn't want to learn, they just want the results and to figure out how to get them with the least amount of effort - they aren't trying to be a "pro". If the camera did it for them, great. If not, they'll try to find another one that does. If they can't, they'll do something to the picture and call it artistic.

Yup, they have to get started somewhere. BUT, most of the people get a camera that auto-does-all and get disappointed when they kick it out of "P"erhaps mode and their shots are all screwed up, so they go back to the P&S. They buy a 1Dx and get mad when the shot didn't come out at all. They whine because the 5D doesn't have a built-in flash. They do all this online somewhere and then when the unknowing consumer comes along, reads these postings to "learn", and join the bandwagon that the equipment is just poorly designed. Sometimes, asking their friends for advice is just nothing more than the blind leading the blind.

Photography is more than just learning the camera. Yeah, you started using a DSLR without a clue, as I started not knowing what the little numbers moving on my light meter were. Now that you know your DSLR settings, I've got to ask: if you were shooting portraits, do you know how to get/calculate/configure a good lighting ratio? If you were shooting landscapes, do you know how to calculate hyperfocal distance? If you were shooting macro, do you know how to calculate max/proper DoF to get just your subject in focus? If you were shooting food, do you know how to get a good line of steam off the veggies? If you were shooting a model, do you know how to get a proper high-key shot without blowing out the edges?

Or, does that matter? I don't know what your subject of shooting is, maybe it's nothing specific. It's not elitist - it's what you do and what the market wants. If your a food shooter, then that's your market and if you can't get that steam right, what's an auto-do-it-all camera going to help? The market wants those pictures of Aunt Bee to be visible, not perfect. That auto-all camera, priced in their budget, is the ideal choice for that customer.

 

[docholliday]

@docholliday

Most people never look at their shoebox of images from 20 years ago, until a wedding or funeral - and yes, I've shot those too.

True. My Aunt gave me some photographs of my Grandparents, who have been dead 20 years now, some of as I remember them- as pensioners, but also photographs of them as a young couple, of my Mum and Aunt as kids. Photo's I'd never seen before. And pretty good quality, in terms of archival at least, usual family box brownie pics of a certain age. Absolutely priceless to me, and probably nobody but me. And some of them just bring back the most treasured memories. And I could cry typing this. And not a megapixel in sight.

Exactly! I feel that nowadays, with the tons of images posted to FB, but with no actual prints will make the future a different world. In 20 years from now, people are going to have a fun time findng the cherished memories. Not that they won't exists (maybe on an old USB drive, uh, how do you hook up a USB device?) but there'll be so many to weed through that none of them will truly be as thoughtful and invoking as that *one* frame which captured a moment in time of history. Instead, it'll be "let's watch this 10000 frame slideshow" that everybody falls asleep during because of so many blah frames.

 

[birtembuk]

Actually, no people aren't that dumb - they're that gullible. Yup, they read those specs. They read the reviews. But, those specs and reviews are taylored for that exact type of person - the consumer. It's called marketing. Can an 8mp camera do "better" than a 24mp? Yes, if that 8mp MF sensor is in the hands of a person who knows what they're doing and/or if the 24mp is a P&S TINY sensor. I've seen 6mp shots that are 40x60 that people swore was shot on a MF camera. The consumer actually doesn't want to learn, they just want the results and to figure out how to get them with the least amount of effort - they aren't trying to be a "pro". If the camera did it for them, great. If not, they'll try to find another one that does. If they can't, they'll do something to the picture and call it artistic.

I'd agree to that. Never mind the green square, thanks to the masses who buy gear by the truck load. Keeps it from reaching stratospheric price. Yeah, yeah, I know, it's already tropospheric, but still ...

 

[paul13walnut5]

@birtembuk

I'd agree to that. Never mind the green square, thanks to the masses who buy gear by the truck load. Keeps it from reaching stratospheric price. Yeah, yeah, I know, it's already tropospheric, but still ...

+1

And thank you also to the early adopters who selflessly pay a third more to have their camera club bragging rights and beta test the new kit so that it's firmware works 6 months later when the smart folk buy it. God bless you all!

 

[Rienzphotoz]

Not sure which body will be "threatened" by the Nikon D5200 but Nikon Rumors just posted this info:

The sensor inside the Nikon D5200 camera is made by Toshiba. This is what Chipworks discovered after they took apart the D5200:


In our recent technology blog entry on full-frame format image sensors, we speculated on the possibility of new entrants in the FF CIS space. What we didn’t expect was a new entrant into the APS-C game with Toshiba winning the primary CIS socket in the Nikon D5200.

FYI: the sensor inside the D3200 is made by Nikon.

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[docholliday]

@birtembuk

I'd agree to that. Never mind the green square, thanks to the masses who buy gear by the truck load. Keeps it from reaching stratospheric price. Yeah, yeah, I know, it's already tropospheric, but still ...

+1

And thank you also to the early adopters who selflessly pay a third more to have their camera club bragging rights and beta test the new kit so that it's firmware works 6 months later when the smart folk buy it. God bless you all!

There's a reason I always buy used...I don't think I've bought retail for anything photo or computer in the last 25 years...maybe some connectors, bulk cable and solder. Oh, and bulbs.