No, but I have to believe it'll be better. I think the R3/R52 one is great... and it can probably be done without the eye-control. The R1 is just bonkers with its 0.9x.
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What Features I Want in the Canon EOS R6 Mark III
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No, but I have to believe it'll be better. I think the R3/R52 one is great... and it can probably be done without the eye-control. The R1 is just bonkers with its 0.9x.
Why ?
I mean of course I would love to have a better EVF on the R6 Mk3 but I fear Canon will think that the 32mp sensor and new tilt screen are enough to convince buyers over R5 MK1 and R6 MK2.
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You could be right. I'm not privy to how all of this is manufactured, but there is something to be said about economies of scale. It costs less per unit if you make more of the same thing a lot of the time.
Or as you suggest, make the same thing and continue it down the line.
The Z6 III EVF is about the same resolution as the R52.
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Resolution and speed have a direct impact. For now, I think CMOS sensors are maxed out as far as big improvements in SNR.
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For me, I'm not fussed about the rumoured MP bump. I'm more interested in better EVF and a stacked sensor. Give me those and I might stump up the cash of one of these. If it doesn't have a stacked sensor then a lightly used R5 might be a better all round proposition. Especially if I already have a R6ii.
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Most comments here prioritize photography first, with little written about video. But this is a hybrid camera and the video spec rumors are impressive. If they do in fact put the C50 sensor in the R6 Mark III it will have the video first / hybrid market intrigued... 7K 60p, open gate, C-Log 2. Throw in a full size HDMI port and this camera could be a beast for video. Of course, they could cripple it to push more video first people up to the C50. It is about $1,000 USD higher than I'd like to spend though. I'd be glad to give up some C50 features if they still bring the firepower of that C50 sensor for under $3,000.
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The C50 doesn't have a stacked sensor, so I'd be very surprised if the R63 had one (a lot of us think they'll share the sensor). They cost more to produce, and this camera will have to hit a competitive price point.
The C80 and C400 are stacked sensors, but much more expensice cameras.
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This will be my next camera, in two years.Digital Camera World Review of C50: "Speaking of the sensor, it’s a completely new one that’s been designed specifically for this camera. While it’s not a stacked design, its readout speed is fast enough for the camera to eschew a mechanical shutter entirely. This is evidenced both by the video framerates, which go up to full-width 4K 120p and 2K 180p in HFR mode, as well as the 40fps continuous shooting offered in stills mode."
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I would love to own a R3 or R1 but my budget cannot justify coughing up that much on a SLR when the R6 mark II can churn out images that are fairly close to the more upmarket models. I get that in some sports you can just do little bursts but when you have 30 motorbikes or mountain bikes all barreling towards you in a train, if you do the short burst method and a rider goes flying or something unexpected happens, chances are you miss it, not so if you have a continuous run of pics. Yes post culling is painful because you throw away so many in sorting but if you churn through several hundred pics to get that one where a rider flips or clips anuther rider or a wheel flies off (yes it happens) or any number of things, it's worth the effort to me. I note that my original post has vanished from the comments feed without any private message sent to me advising why. Interesting way to treat an original premium paid member.
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Though it was a pain to read through your OP without any paragraphs, IMO I see no reason to delete and not inform you directly.
The answer was given in the thread here:
Back to your arguments:
Of course it would be nice for us consumers if Canon would offer 40 fps+dual CFe slot+2x 512 GB Cards for free.
But that's not real life.
And your "rant" about a ProAm camera not delivering Pro spec list for ProAm or even consumer price is not real life as well.
That's why I mentioned Sony, too. You won't find such specs at other producers for the desired price, wouldn't you?
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There are different sizes of CF Express Card slots that are intended for different types & sizes of devices. Type A, B, and C. For R5, R6, or smaller cameras, CF Express Type A is the right size. Do like Sony and put two dual-use CF Express A/SD card slots in. Each slot can take either type of card.
Go with PCI Express v4.0 in the camera. It uses less power per PCIe lane while doubling throughput per lane at the same time. One PCIe v4 lane transfers as much data per second as two PCIe v3 lanes. Using only a single lane (Type A card) reduces power consumption further vs a 2-lane Type B setup. All this reduced power use means longer battery life and less heat generated.
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Stacked sensors are expensive and complex to produce, and yields are low. The two layers themselves require special production processes and the stacking requires an extreme level of precession.
There will need to be a revolution in the manufacturing process of stacked sensors to bring them down in price far enough to be used in an R6 camera. There will not be a stacked sensor in the R6 III and I would not expect one in an R6 IV either.
You're not alone in wishing for this, of course. There are many Sony users who have pipe dreams of Sony putting a variant of the A9ii fully stacked sensor into the A7 V. That is also not going to happen.
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You are asking for pro tier components on a consumer grade camera and this is not gonna happen.
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It sounds more like a list of definitive specs you weren't allowed to post as a list. And that's your way of publishing it
The 32MP sensor from the C50 is probably a very safe bet and concluding from its readout rates I think there won't be a bump of the 40fps of the R6II, which is fine given the resolution bump. The 2 SD slots unfortunately will also be the same like in the R6II, just because it saves cost. This will be a perfect competitor to the Sony A7IV, blowing its abysmal readout speed and framerates out of the water. However, I wonder if there will be anything really novel other than the new form of vari-angle screen.
Personally, I would wish for more implementation of A.I. magic on the software side. Just a few examples:
- A.I. upscaling and sharpening features, for instance a lossless crop feature.
- More intelligent auto mode (like in the R50).
- Taking a burst of photos and combining them into HDR RAW without any limitations (like having to use a tripod or artifacts with moving people).
- A.I. enhancing (color and crop). Google Pixel 10 Pro does that and its absolutely mind blowing how well it edits pictures in just a few seconds.
It sounds more like a list of definitive specs you weren't allowed to post as a list. And that's your way of publishing it
The 32MP sensor from the C50 is probably a very safe bet and concluding from its readout rates I think there won't be a bump of the 40fps of the R6II, which is fine given the resolution bump. The 2 SD slots unfortunately will also be the same like in the R6II, just because it saves cost. This will be a perfect competitor to the Sony A7IV, blowing its abysmal readout speed and framerates out of the water. However, I wonder if there will be anything really novel other than the new form of vari-angle screen.
Personally, I would wish for more implementation of A.I. magic on the software side. Just a few examples:
- A.I. upscaling and sharpening features, for instance a lossless crop feature.
- More intelligent auto mode (like in the R50).
- Taking a burst of photos and combining them into HDR RAW without any limitations (like having to use a tripod or artifacts with moving people).
- A.I. enhancing (color and crop). Google Pixel 10 Pro does that and its absolutely mind blowing how well it edits pictures in just a few seconds.
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Canon have done this many times before. Canon has put pro level sensors in many consumer grade cameras numerous times. Who knows what is in Canon's mind with the R6iii. If Canon wants too, they can easily have invested in chip etching machines to dominate the middle group market. Canon can easily put a stacked sensor in both the R6iii and the R7ii. Who's going to buy a R3 today? Very few....
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