What is more important to you?

slclick said:
Dylan777 said:
slclick said:
Jopa said:
Dylan777 said:
Arrived yesterday and it's fun to hold and shoot with, especially BW, Across :)

It looks AWESOME! :) Congrats!

Do you think this could be the (not so) poor man's Monochrom ? I've always liked Neopan Acros....

These are BW, across, -2Highlight, +1shadow, -1sharpness in camera setting. No edit, only resized to post here.

I don't have much experience with BW until I recently with Fuji gear. Raw with LR Across profile is always better. Will share some later from Xt2 BW Across. LR doesn't support x100f at this moment.

Nice. I come from a B&W film self processing background (something I have always recommended digital B&W aficionados to embrace and understand contrast a bit better) and this camera is making me rethink my 2nd body dilemma. Perhaps my B&W love is more powerful than my need to use my EF lenses on something else! Take that M5. I look forward to seeing more from you and hearing your thoughts after some use.

I own Canon and Sony for number of years now. Sharing jpeg SOOC from both companies is never an option, especially shooting under natural light. Fuji however, it gives excellent JPEG skin tone right of out the cam. RAW is excellent for crop sensor.

This one was taken with Xt2 + 35f2, compact weather sealed combo.
 

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Dylan777 said:
slclick said:
Dylan777 said:
slclick said:
Jopa said:
Dylan777 said:
Arrived yesterday and it's fun to hold and shoot with, especially BW, Across :)

It looks AWESOME! :) Congrats!

Do you think this could be the (not so) poor man's Monochrom ? I've always liked Neopan Acros....

These are BW, across, -2Highlight, +1shadow, -1sharpness in camera setting. No edit, only resized to post here.

I don't have much experience with BW until I recently with Fuji gear. Raw with LR Across profile is always better. Will share some later from Xt2 BW Across. LR doesn't support x100f at this moment.

Nice. I come from a B&W film self processing background (something I have always recommended digital B&W aficionados to embrace and understand contrast a bit better) and this camera is making me rethink my 2nd body dilemma. Perhaps my B&W love is more powerful than my need to use my EF lenses on something else! Take that M5. I look forward to seeing more from you and hearing your thoughts after some use.

I own Canon and Sony for number of years now. Sharing jpeg SOOC from both companies is never an option, especially shooting under natural light. Fuji however, it gives excellent JPEG skin tone right of out the cam. RAW is excellent for crop sensor.

Have you used the Tele Digital Converter much yet? I understand that is jpeg only however I wondered how it compares to RAW crops
 
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privatebydesign said:
Jopa said:
Just looked at the Priolite web site: "The HotSync feature is currently compatible with select PENTAX, SONY, CANON, and NIKON cameras at any power setting of the strobe and at shutter speeds of up to 1/8000th of a second (1/4000th on Pentax 645Z) with no loss of power above x-sync.". What kind of magic is it? If it's not HSS which has a significant light loss and basically a continuous light for a short period of time, then what it is?

Marketing bull---- misdirecting lies.

That's what I thought. Still decided to spend some time on research - it looks to be very similar to HyperSync (PocketWizard). The Priolite strobes are very slow (1/200s t.5 @ full power), but it makes them easy to use with a technology similar to HyperSync. Quite interesting...
 
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Jopa said:
privatebydesign said:
Jopa said:
Just looked at the Priolite web site: "The HotSync feature is currently compatible with select PENTAX, SONY, CANON, and NIKON cameras at any power setting of the strobe and at shutter speeds of up to 1/8000th of a second (1/4000th on Pentax 645Z) with no loss of power above x-sync.". What kind of magic is it? If it's not HSS which has a significant light loss and basically a continuous light for a short period of time, then what it is?

Marketing bull---- misdirecting lies.

That's what I thought. Still decided to spend some time on research - it looks to be very similar to HyperSync (PocketWizard). The Priolite strobes are very slow (1/200s t.5 @ full power), but it makes them easy to use with a technology similar to HyperSync. Quite interesting...

Which makes the constant claims of "at all power levels" particularly deceptive and egregious.

If the flash has a full power duration of 1/200 sec then any speed less than that can't possibly give you full power. If they have squared off the power delivery to give even exposure across the frame (the HyperSync/Hi-Sync ideal) the 1/8000 sec equates to 5 and 1/3 stop power loss, so "full power" delivers less than 1/32 power. You don't need much power control if the max you get at shortest shutter speed is less than 1/32!
 
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Dylan777 said:
slclick said:
Dylan777 said:
slclick said:
Jopa said:
Dylan777 said:
Arrived yesterday and it's fun to hold and shoot with, especially BW, Across :)

It looks AWESOME! :) Congrats!

Do you think this could be the (not so) poor man's Monochrom ? I've always liked Neopan Acros....

These are BW, across, -2Highlight, +1shadow, -1sharpness in camera setting. No edit, only resized to post here.

I don't have much experience with BW until I recently with Fuji gear. Raw with LR Across profile is always better. Will share some later from Xt2 BW Across. LR doesn't support x100f at this moment.

Nice. I come from a B&W film self processing background (something I have always recommended digital B&W aficionados to embrace and understand contrast a bit better) and this camera is making me rethink my 2nd body dilemma. Perhaps my B&W love is more powerful than my need to use my EF lenses on something else! Take that M5. I look forward to seeing more from you and hearing your thoughts after some use.

I own Canon and Sony for number of years now. Sharing jpeg SOOC from both companies is never an option, especially shooting under natural light. Fuji however, it gives excellent JPEG skin tone right of out the cam. RAW is excellent for crop sensor.

This one was taken with Xt2 + 35f2, compact weather sealed combo.

So you got the XT2... probably the best Fuji out now, including the GFX. When I picked it up I sold off both of my X100's.
 
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Jopa said:
privatebydesign said:
Jopa said:
Just looked at the Priolite web site: "The HotSync feature is currently compatible with select PENTAX, SONY, CANON, and NIKON cameras at any power setting of the strobe and at shutter speeds of up to 1/8000th of a second (1/4000th on Pentax 645Z) with no loss of power above x-sync.". What kind of magic is it? If it's not HSS which has a significant light loss and basically a continuous light for a short period of time, then what it is?

Marketing bull---- misdirecting lies.

That's what I thought. Still decided to spend some time on research - it looks to be very similar to HyperSync (PocketWizard). The Priolite strobes are very slow (1/200s t.5 @ full power), but it makes them easy to use with a technology similar to HyperSync. Quite interesting...

It is and it works perfectly. Some have an issue with it not being HSS (consumer speedlite based marketing) but like Elinchrom's option... they work and work very well. I know this because I actually own these units and use them often, could care less about the symantics. Ask those who say it's BS if they actually use these units before taking their advice on real world use.
 
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Pookie said:
Jopa said:
privatebydesign said:
Jopa said:
Just looked at the Priolite web site: "The HotSync feature is currently compatible with select PENTAX, SONY, CANON, and NIKON cameras at any power setting of the strobe and at shutter speeds of up to 1/8000th of a second (1/4000th on Pentax 645Z) with no loss of power above x-sync.". What kind of magic is it? If it's not HSS which has a significant light loss and basically a continuous light for a short period of time, then what it is?

Marketing bull---- misdirecting lies.

That's what I thought. Still decided to spend some time on research - it looks to be very similar to HyperSync (PocketWizard). The Priolite strobes are very slow (1/200s t.5 @ full power), but it makes them easy to use with a technology similar to HyperSync. Quite interesting...

It is and it works perfectly. Some have an issue with it not being HSS (consumer speedlite based marketing) but like Elinchrom's option... they work and work very well. I know this because I actually own these units and use them often, could care less about the symantics. Ask those who say it's BS if they actually use these units before taking their advice on real world use.
::)
 
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privatebydesign said:
Pookie said:
Jopa said:
privatebydesign said:
Jopa said:
Just looked at the Priolite web site: "The HotSync feature is currently compatible with select PENTAX, SONY, CANON, and NIKON cameras at any power setting of the strobe and at shutter speeds of up to 1/8000th of a second (1/4000th on Pentax 645Z) with no loss of power above x-sync.". What kind of magic is it? If it's not HSS which has a significant light loss and basically a continuous light for a short period of time, then what it is?

Marketing bull---- misdirecting lies.

That's what I thought. Still decided to spend some time on research - it looks to be very similar to HyperSync (PocketWizard). The Priolite strobes are very slow (1/200s t.5 @ full power), but it makes them easy to use with a technology similar to HyperSync. Quite interesting...

It is and it works perfectly. Some have an issue with it not being HSS (consumer speedlite based marketing) but like Elinchrom's option... they work and work very well. I know this because I actually own these units and use them often, could care less about the symantics. Ask those who say it's BS if they actually use these units before taking their advice on real world use.
::)

Ok, what strobes do you shoot with your Pentax @ 1/4000 or GFX above 1/125?
 
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Pookie said:
privatebydesign said:
Pookie said:
Jopa said:
privatebydesign said:
Jopa said:
Just looked at the Priolite web site: "The HotSync feature is currently compatible with select PENTAX, SONY, CANON, and NIKON cameras at any power setting of the strobe and at shutter speeds of up to 1/8000th of a second (1/4000th on Pentax 645Z) with no loss of power above x-sync.". What kind of magic is it? If it's not HSS which has a significant light loss and basically a continuous light for a short period of time, then what it is?

Marketing bull---- misdirecting lies.

That's what I thought. Still decided to spend some time on research - it looks to be very similar to HyperSync (PocketWizard). The Priolite strobes are very slow (1/200s t.5 @ full power), but it makes them easy to use with a technology similar to HyperSync. Quite interesting...

It is and it works perfectly. Some have an issue with it not being HSS (consumer speedlite based marketing) but like Elinchrom's option... they work and work very well. I know this because I actually own these units and use them often, could care less about the symantics. Ask those who say it's BS if they actually use these units before taking their advice on real world use.
::)

Ok, what strobes do you shoot with your Pentax or GFX?

What don't you understand about the question "What kind of magic is it?".

The question was not how well they work with anything, the question was how they function. I never said, hinted, or suggested they didn't work well, I said the terms they were using in the marketing spiel were bull----, and they are.

Can you explain how they can get full power into an image shot at 1/8000 sec when the flash duration at full power is 1/200 sec?
 
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Dylan777 said:
What is more important to you?

1. Larger & Heavier FF gear that give higher quality photos
OR
2. Smaller & lighter crop(1" etc...) gear that you enjoy carry and capture those special moments.

I'm 65% on #2 at this time in my life.

more & more (80+%) I find I only carry my Oly EM1 with a 12-60mm with the D800s and big glass only coming out when I have have huge print intent. Even then I sometimes find the EM1 kinda heavy and choose to take a tiny EM10 with 14-42 kit zoom for ultralight gear with good flexible abilities. Everything else in between when the mood suggests it.
 
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Jack Douglas said:
Scott, you're just raining on the party. Don't you believe in magic? :)

How about the 100W amp that draws 4A @12V. ;)

Jack

;)

But you don't know what you are talking about Jack because I have two of those speakers, and some $5,000 B&W's in my house on Maui and I just sold my Lambo because it doesn't matter how many cameras I buy I can only take one picture.

So there :'(


::)
 
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Dylan777 said:
What is more important to you?

1. Larger & Heavier FF gear that give higher quality photos

OR

2. Smaller & lighter crop(1" etc...) gear that you enjoy carry and capture those special moments.


I'm 65% on #2 at this time in my life.

Absolutely 1.! My next body is likely to be 5D IV and I have a Rokinon 14mm 2.4 on order. After that lens, I will buy a 400 or 500mm prime. I'm 66 but weight is not a big consideration, and I do take my gear when I'm hiking.
 
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Aglet said:
Dylan777 said:
What is more important to you?

1. Larger & Heavier FF gear that give higher quality photos
OR
2. Smaller & lighter crop(1" etc...) gear that you enjoy carry and capture those special moments.

I'm 65% on #2 at this time in my life.

more & more (80+%) I find I only carry my Oly EM1 with a 12-60mm with the D800s and big glass only coming out when I have have huge print intent. Even then I sometimes find the EM1 kinda heavy and choose to take a tiny EM10 with 14-42 kit zoom for ultralight gear with good flexible abilities. Everything else in between when the mood suggests it.

As the tech improves each year, EVF helps me getting proper exposure in little time.
 
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Pookie said:
So you got the XT2... probably the best Fuji out now, including the GFX. When I picked it up I sold off both of my X100's.

Very much in love with XT2 Pookie. The responsive is fast compared to any other mirrorless systems I have. Feel like DSLR level. The new tilt screen is very helpful, it works in hori & ver position now. I went to local mountain to catch some snow from last big storm in California. In blizzard condition, the weather sealed from XT2 + 35f2 WR + 90f2 WR are great.

Wish I can say that on my new x100f ;)
 
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Pookie said:
Jack Douglas said:
Scott, you're just raining on the party. Don't you believe in magic? :)

How about the 100W amp that draws 4A @12V. ;)

Jack

Ahh, the real magic is sharing your experiences using a camera and strobes neither of you own.

I generally don't comment on that which I know little/nothing about but as an electrical engineer I do know certain natural laws are in effect. That's for my own illumination. If others wish to hold differing views, they have my blessing and I have no interest in engaging in that case. Love and enjoy your gear; that's what it's all about.

Jack
 
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Dylan777 said:
What is more important to you?

1. Larger & Heavier FF gear that give higher quality photos

OR

2. Smaller & lighter crop(1" etc...) gear that you enjoy carry and capture those special moments.


I'm 65% on #2 at this time in my life.

Both!

I love my L-glass and I love my waterproof P/S......
 
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Well, I did it, I ordered a small ML fixed lens camera. (Who knows when it will come off backorder) but then I will see in real life and not conjecture just how much I will use one 'system' over the other. Supplement? Compliment? Time will tell.
 
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slclick said:
Well, I did it, I ordered a small ML fixed lens camera. (Who knows when it will come off backorder) but then I will see in real life and not conjecture just how much I will use one 'system' over the other. Supplement? Compliment? Time will tell.

As I'm about to pack my stuff for an over sea bus trip, my X100F + 1 extra battery will travel with me this time ;)
 
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