What We Want to See in the Retro Canon EOS R8 Mark II

[blobmonster]

More than a little bit bigger, which for some would be a significant negative and not at all an improvement.

Personally, I like that the R8 uses the LP-E17, because it shares that battery with other cameras that I have and often travel with – the PowerShot V1, M6II and my full spectrum M6. Three of those bodies can charge the battery in-camera, meaning I don't even need to bring the wall-wart charger.

Yes the size of the R8 is a massive advantage. Thats also ironically why Id love to see a built in flash.

Paired with the 28mm and a 50mm, there would be no lens shadow, and you don't need to bring a flash when travelling light. Its a real shame that you can buy the best full frame cameras but if you want a built in flash, you always need the aps-c. It makes little sense to me. If Im using a big lens, I will pack a big flash.

 

[neuroanatomist]

If Im using a big lens, I will pack a big flash.

When I travel with the R8, I take the 270EX II ‘just in case’.

 

[blobmonster]

When I travel with the R8, I take the 270EX II ‘just in case’.

Yes that' what I sometimes do, that way you have proper fill flash for hss with wide apertures. Unfortunately though, its just one more thing to remember to bring and its still bulky/not twistable when not needed or for in-home use, so I don't leave it on the camera.

I own lots of flashes, but my favourite flash is the built-in flash because I dont have to worry about charging it or putting it on if I need it for snapshots. I can just pop it up, and it doesn't get knocked when not in use, or add hardly any weight. With modern iso, they dont need to be powerful to make a big difference.

I own lots of big flashes, but I've never found a small flash that I love more than a built in flash. My favourite is the one on my little M6 cos' it bounces, but bounce is not necessary. I do still love the direct flash look with -1 exp comp or -1 fec. I dont like dingy/shady shots of faces, flash means I'm in control of the light and have options.

Edit: actually thinking about it, my favourite built in flash is the one on the Ricoh GRII. HSS and perfectly configurable controls. You can switch from ttl with super fast fec, to manual output (i e. For zero delay/ subject blink) really quickly.

With the 28mm, an r8ii would be brilliant to sling round the shoulder for casual outings, but unless it has a flash, I'd honestly prefer an r10 with ef-s 24mm.

 

[SnowMiku]

Yes the size of the R8 is a massive advantage. Thats also ironically why Id love to see a built in flash.

Paired with the 28mm and a 50mm, there would be no lens shadow, and you don't need to bring a flash when travelling light. Its a real shame that you can buy the best full frame cameras but if you want a built in flash, you always need the aps-c. It makes little sense to me. If Im using a big lens, I will pack a big flash.

I would also like to see a built in flash on the R8 II. I've used it a few times with my 90D and M50 II for butterflies to fill in the light.

 

[MayerMP]

Improvements like bigger battery, 2 slots etc would increase size and price.
And they would lower the distance to the R6 ii.

I just hope for a photocentric camera. My biggest wish is a tilting screen!

Design wise I would love to see parallels to the EOS 50e in the late 90s.

Lenses? Something better than the 24-50 but not L. Like the elder EF 24-85, 28-105 or 28-135 IS.
AND what about a 40mm 2,8 pancake?

I´m struggeling whether to wait for R8 ii or to buy an R8 now with good discount.

 

[HeavyPiper]

I´m struggeling whether to wait for R8 ii or to buy an R8 now with good discount.

I'm in the boat. I rented a R8 in May and found it fun to use. I'm older and finding my R5 is getting heavy.

 

[Danglin52]

I am a long time Canon user (1980’s) with R6 iii, r5 Ii and high quality wildlife lenses. That said, I hate dragging around FF gear for general recreational travel - cruises, city visit, etc. I had the M5 and sold it thinking canon would eventually replace with better features. Unfortunately, canon seems to have abandoned that space. What I would like to see with the R8 Retro is the Fuji x-t5 body w/ Canon AF and a set of small f2.8 zoom lenses (think Sigma f2.8 10-18, 18-50 and a Fuji 70-300 equivalent). I actually bought the x-t5 + Sigma 18-50 f2.8 and 70-300 f4-5.6 as a light travel kit three weeks ago but decided to returned due to the AF. That said, I plan to immediately buy back in if the rumored T6 solves my AF issues and they don’t drastically modify the body. I loved the old style dials/ergonomics with the exception of the small grip. Timing should let me determine if the new R8 meets my desires for a small, light fun to shoot travel package. I am definitely not giving up my canon gear for adventure trips, but I have a feeling the Fuji is in my future for general travel.

 

[esspy2]

I am a long time Canon user (1980’s) with R6 iii, r5 Ii and high quality wildlife lenses. That said, I hate dragging around FF gear for general recreational travel - cruises, city visit, etc. I had the M5 and sold it thinking canon would eventually replace with better features. Unfortunately, canon seems to have abandoned that space. What I would like to see with the R8 Retro is the Fuji x-t5 body w/ Canon AF and a set of small f2.8 zoom lenses (think Sigma f2.8 10-18, 18-50 and a Fuji 70-300 equivalent). I actually bought the x-t5 + Sigma 18-50 f2.8 and 70-300 f4-5.6 as a light travel kit three weeks ago but decided to returned due to the AF. That said, I plan to immediately buy back in if the rumored T6 solves my AF issues and they don’t drastically modify the body. I loved the old style dials/ergonomics with the exception of the small grip. Timing should let me determine if the new R8 meets my desires for a small, light fun to shoot travel package. I am definitely not giving up my canon gear for adventure trips, but I have a feeling the Fuji is in my future for general travel.

I’m sure you’ve considered it, but the R7 probably focuses better than the X-T6 and can take the sigma 10-18mm and 18-50mm. If they can put out a 50-140mm or 70-300mm equivalent you’re most of the way there, just without retro features. But I have a hard time seeing canon putting an APS-C sensor in an R8 retro body

 

[Danglin52]

I’m sure you’ve considered it, but the R7 probably focuses better than the X-T6 and can take the sigma 10-18mm and 18-50mm. If they can put out a 50-140mm or 70-300mm equivalent you’re most of the way there, just without retro features. But I have a hard time seeing canon putting an APS-C sensor in an R8 retro body

Sorry, I went temporarily brain dead and forgot the R8 was FF. I am going to blame Canon naming conventions since they slipped the R8 FF in between the R7 &R10 APS-C. As to the R7, I owned one and was never totally happy with the high ISO performance and hit some erratic AF issues during burst shooting. I replaced the R7 with the R6 III and am extremely happy with the R5 II / R6III combination for wildlife. I did consider the Sigma lenses with the R7 or R10, but the R7 is still a bit large and not sure I would be happy with the R10. For most trips in ‘civilization”, I find I do not want to carry something that is heavy and bulky. I did some research and bought the T5 setup to try since I have not looked outside of Canon in years. I was looking for something different and it was a blast. Loved the retro dials, small size and light weight you could manage with a wrist strap. It also did not take a large bag to haul around. Made me really want my M back with a full retro update. I would look seriously at a retro vs of the R8 if they went to a more tactile interface, but the reliance on heavy FF glass would kill my interest. I think doing a retro full frame may not be the best direction. I am going to see what Fuji does with the AF on the T6 and will dive back in with the body plus the 2 f2.8 zooms that cover [email protected](15-75) as a small, lightweight, capable package. The setup is really fun to carry and shoot! That does not mean I will be moving away from my Canon gear for wildlife, aviation and other challenging adventures.

 

[DocInfoSci]

Sorry, I went temporarily brain dead and forgot the R8 was FF. I am going to blame Canon naming conventions since they slipped the R8 FF in between the R7 &R10 APS-C. As to the R7, I owned one was never totally happy with the high ISO performance and did hit some erratic AF issues during burst shooting. I replaced the R7 with the R6 III and extremely happy with the R5 II / R6III for wildlife. I did consider the Sigma lenses with the R7 or R10, but the R7 is still a bit large and not sure I would be happy with the R10. For most trips in ‘civilization, I find I do not want to carry something that is heavy and bulky. I did some research and bought the T5 setup to try since I have not looked outside of Canon in years. I was looking for something different and it was a blast. Loved the retro dials, small size and light weight you could manage with a wrist strap. It also did not take a large bag to haul around. Made me really want my M back with a full retro update. I would look seriously at a retro vs of the R8 if they went to a more tactile interface, but the reliance on heavy FF glass would kill my interest. I think doing a retro full frame may not be the best direction. I am going to see what Fuji does with the AF on the T6, but I may dive in with the body plus the 2 f2.8 zooms that cover [email protected](15-75) as a small, lightweight, capable package. The setup is really fun to carry and shoot! That does not mean I will be moving away from my Canon gear for wildlife, aviation and other challenging adventures.

I was wondering... but then, the R6 body is really nice so was like who knows?!