What Will The EOS 5D Mark IV Bring to the Table?

[Canon Rumors]

With the specifications of the EOS-1D X Mark II being made public, the obvious next question is what can we expect to see in the EOS 5D Mark IV, which is coming in 2016.</p>
<p>The EOS 5D Mark III followed the EOS-1D X quite closely in on paper specifications. Below is a prediction based of what we think we could see inside the next 5D.</p>
<ul>
<li>28mp</li>
<li>9fps</li>
<li>DIGIC 6+ (They won’t launch DIGIC 7 so closely to a flagship camera)</li>
<li>61 point AF</li>
<li>CFast & SD</li>
<li>Touchscreen</li>
<li>Built-in GPS & Wifi</li>
<li>Lighter weight</li>
</ul>
<p>The biggest question will be in regards to 4K video capture. It appears that on the EOS-1D X Mark II, you will be able to record 4K video to the CFast 2.0 slot. Will Canon put a CFast 2.0 slot in the 5D Mark IV along with the SD card slot and do away with CF? I don’t see them taking the SD card slot out of the camera in favor of dual slots for CF and CFast. Everyone we’ve spoken to has said 4K recording will not be part of the EOS 5D Mark III direct replacement camera, but that can obviously change.</p>
<p>A video oriented version of the 5D such as a 5D C? It’s possible and has been long rumored, but nothing reported can be considered reliable at this point.</p>
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[Big_Ant_TV_Media]

22-28mp
7-8 fps since 5d3 is 6fps "CANT BE 9fps you'd be in 7d2 10fps territory"
(7-8 would be great for sports/action shooters like me)
65 af points like the 7d2
touchscreen with anti flare and smudge
anti flicker 1 or 2.0 (same or newer version) like the 7d2
gps if not wifi 1 of the 2 if not neither
more robust body even better weather sealing
DPAF TECH & STM only stm dpaf lens are combo efs lenses eg: 24-105stm 55-250mm and 50mm1.8 stm
1080-4K VIDEO "MILLIONS OF PHOTOGS AROUND THE WORLD ARE BETTING NO 4K"

 

[DSLR]

9 fps would be nice but I think that's a bit ambitious ~ maybe 7fps in ff and higher in cropped mode? don't see 28mp either. Probably more in the 24 range.

 

[whothafunk]

1DX Mark II specs made public? All i've seen are still speculation topics about it with question mark at the end.

 

[unfocused]

I'm curious if this is based on leaks/rumors or just speculation. CR? Rating please.

If just speculation, then I would say I doubt some of it.

9fps would be nice, but I expect it to be closer to 8fps (sufficiently slower as to not challenge either the 1DX series or the 7D)

Like the 1DX, high ISO performance is more important than higher resolution, so I would prefer and predict something in the 24mp range.

Some autofocus improvement. Possibly mirroring the 7DII, but that might be optimistic. It can't be as good as the 1Dx II, but should be better than the current 5DIII, so it needs better tracking.

I seriously doubt it will have a Cfast slot. I expect it to retain the same SD/CF configuration. As the 1DX II shows, Canon is not ready to abandon CF cards yet and the CFast is a good differentiation for the 1D series.

Touchscreen and WiFi would be great.

 

[Mac Duderson]

Noooooo!!! 28mp!! If people want high mp those bodies are already out there. I have 30TB of drives for work already and don't need bigger files. Frick Canon keep it down in low 20mp's. I hate all this magapixel war stuff again.

 

[Hill Benson]

• Built in GPS and Wi-fi - I hope they don't include these if they have to compromise build quality.
  
• 4k video - Considering the impact the 5DII had on cinematographers I have my fingers crossed that 4k will make it to the 5DmkIV
• Antiflicker - yes please!
• Metering on the selected focus point would be a nice touch but I think that would be entering too much 1D territory

 

[pwp]

That spec list looks probable, possible and altogether likely. While I voted for twin Cfast in the 1DX2 thread, I sure wouldn't hope for a Cfast/SD match-up. Twin CF or twin Cfast, but not another mash-up please!

Do what Nikon has done, and offer the choice.

-pw

 

[JMZawodny]

I'm on the fence. I've been shooting the 5D2 and 7D2. The rumored specs of the 1Dx2 are likely sufficient to get me to upgrade, however, I plan to wait until I have definitive info on the 5D4 as well as real user reviews of the 1Dx2. So, what will the 5D4 have to offer to garner my interest? When I need the fps, I have the 7D2, so 7fps out of the 5D4 will do. I regularly shoot ISO 6400 on the 5D2, but I'd really like to shoot at ISO 12800 with the same level of noise. That seems like a reasonable request. I do expect both the 1Dx2 and 5D4 to offer a significant improvement in DR by incorporating on-chip ADC. I like my AF points to light up red, that is why I was never really interested in the 5D3. I have little interest in 4k video unless it comes with a high quality codec, so the 5D4 can live down to my expectations and I won't care too much. The spec I care most about is AF performance. If the 1Dx2 is the only camera that offers a respectable spread of AF points that work at f/8, that alone will make the decision for me. Given how the AF of the 1 series cameras are always a step above the other Canon offerings, I do not expect this to change and I'll most probably end up with the 1Dx2. I am prepared to be surprised, however.

 

[pwp]

...I like my AF points to light up red, that is why I was never really interested in the 5D3.

OMG yes please. The 5DIII & 7DII AF point blackout drives me crazy. I lose shots all the time searching for the AF point. When you shoot for spontaneity the illuminated current AF point is pure gold.

-pw

 

[jebrady03]

I'd like to see a 5Dc so that people will stop calling the 5D that.

 

[hmatthes]

If we look at "applications", most of us gravitate to one body of another based upon our primary subject interest.
1D.. = The top of the line, "does everything better", cost be damned machine whose specs exceed lesser cameras.
5D.. = Image quality above all else. AF needs to be very close to 1D, DR likewise. All else is nice, not necessary.
6D.. = FF compromise that can do everything more than adequately but with excellent DR
7D.. = Performance above everything else. Highest frame rate, fastest AF selection, images that can be cropped.
##D = The best blend of the above for prosumers. Most features, fewest pinnacles compared to above.
###D= Amazing quantity of features that may never be realized, great Green Zone and icons for situations
I went from several great film bodies (remember A2e eye-control?) to the 20D and never looked back.
Now with the 70D I have nearly everything in a body that lends itself to fast, intuitive field work and GREAT IMAGES!
Wanting to move to FF for superior ISO performance and RAW image creation, I'll wait for the 5D4 so as not to lose DPAF, WiFi, gain GPS, gain DR etc. The 70D can remain my video camera with all the STM glass.
Canon, I'd be glad to test one for you!!! ;D

 

[roxics]

It would be great if it had a CFast 2 slot as I'm sure that would help drive the price of that media down. But I'm skeptical of that happening. Even so you don't need CFast to shoot 4k, depending on the way you encode that 4K. CFast would certainly help if it's higher bitrate 4K and the Magic Lantern guys would probably love it, which would be nice, but again it's not something I would count on.

At this point I'd be happy with a nice clean 4K image, using the full sensor width(unlike Nikon or Panasonic which crop) and recorded at 100Mbps to SD or CF card at frame rates up to 30fps.

 

[wtlloyd]

Yep. Enjoy that cloud sandwich. I'll wait for the meat and potatoes to be served.

1DX Mark II specs made public? All i've seen are still speculation topics about it with question mark at the end.

 

[Zv]

I'm curious if this is based on leaks/rumors or just speculation. CR? Rating please.

If just speculation, then I would say I doubt some of it.

9fps would be nice, but I expect it to be closer to 8fps (sufficiently slower as to not challenge either the 1DX series or the 7D)

Like the 1DX, high ISO performance is more important than higher resolution, so I would prefer and predict something in the 24mp range.

Some autofocus improvement. Possibly mirroring the 7DII, but that might be optimistic. It can't be as good as the 1Dx II, but should be better than the current 5DIII, so it needs better tracking.

I seriously doubt it will have a Cfast slot. I expect it to retain the same SD/CF configuration. As the 1DX II shows, Canon is not ready to abandon CF cards yet and the CFast is a good differentiation for the 1D series.

Touchscreen and WiFi would be great.

+1 My thoughts exactly!

 

[Jack Douglas]

...I like my AF points to light up red, that is why I was never really interested in the 5D3.

OMG yes please. The 5DIII & 7DII AF point blackout drives me crazy. I lose shots all the time searching for the AF point. When you shoot for spontaneity the illuminated current AF point is pure gold.

-pw

Neuro says this is no longer possible with the present tech change from the 1D IV. Has he ever been wrong?

Jack

 

[JMZawodny]

...I like my AF points to light up red, that is why I was never really interested in the 5D3.

OMG yes please. The 5DIII & 7DII AF point blackout drives me crazy. I lose shots all the time searching for the AF point. When you shoot for spontaneity the illuminated current AF point is pure gold.

-pw

Neuro says this is no longer possible with the present tech change from the 1D IV. Has he ever been wrong?

Jack

It is not like it is Rocket Science.

Not even a neurosurgeon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNPmhBl-8I

 

[mclaren777]

I'll buy two 5D4s at launch if it has the following two features...

1. A sensor that is ISO-invariant
2. AF sensitivity of at least -3 EV

That's all Canon needs to do to please me.

 

[scottkinfw]

better AF, modest iso bump, modest iq, modest bump in fps, modes improvement in shadows. The rest is gravy.

For me, focusing is most important.

sek

 

[privatebydesign]

btw, if you look at the prices of Canon's last pro 1-series film camera, the EOS 1V, it makes you want to cry when you see 1DX/1Ds pricing.

I paid a touch over $2,000 for each of my two 1VHS's when new, at the time Vevia cost me $1 per frame after film and processing costs, it didn't take long for my 1 series digital cameras to be considerably cheaper to run........

I've got around 200,000 images from my main 1Ds MkIII and it cost me a touch over $4,000.