Where is the EOS 5D Mark IV? [CR2]

[Canon Rumors]

<p>We <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2015/01/eos-5d-mark-iii-replacement-talk-cr2/" target="_blank">reported a few weeks ago</a> that the “5D” line would be split into the 3 cameras, the two 5DS cameras as well as the 5D Mark IV.</p>
<p>Today we were told that the 5D Mark IV is indeed coming in 2015 and will focus on being a lowlight event and sports type of camera with good enough image quality for pretty much anything else you throw at it. The camera could also be the next Canon DSLR to get 4K video recording, along with new video features. We haven’t heard anything in regards to an EOS-1D C replacement, which lends some credence to the rumors that the next 5D Mark XX will take over where the 1D C will leave off, though we don’t want to say that’s a for sure thing right now.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_5d4.html" target="_blank">Northlight</a> reports that the camera is currently scheduled for an announcement in August and will see a modest increase in megapixels.</p>
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[PureClassA]

4k in a Mk3 successor would only make sense, I just wish it wasn't delayed til August (if this is accurate). $4000 price drop on the 1DC suggests this may well come true. 4k at $3500 in a 5 series and 4k in a 1DC at $8000 makes a lot more sense. (a la Sony a7s vs Sony FS7)

 

[docsmith]

They are saying all the words I want to hear. That could be a worthy successor to the 5DIII. Now, they just have to make it so.

24-28 MP
Cleaner low ISO noise
Whatever benefit they can get out of higher ISO
8 fps
etc....

 

[unfocused]

I certainly hope it has a touch screen and wi-fi. It's long past time for these features to be integrated into upper end cameras.

 

[preppyak]

I certainly hope it has a touch screen and wi-fi. It's long past time for these features to be integrated into upper end cameras.

Wi-Fi might be toucher because of how they build in the waterproofing.

Touchscreen is an altogether different problem. The 5D is still a prosumer and pro market camera...who may not want touchscreen to work through menus, etc.

 

[blackbox]

I'm sure they will increase the ISO, but Dynamic Range is still lacking with this camera

1DX replacement??

 

[justsomedude]

I'm sure they will increase the ISO, but Dynamic Range is still lacking with this camera

I would assume this is the main reason for the delay in the 5D Mark IV. Canon must be well aware by now that they can't just drop a 5D3 with a few tweaks and a bump in ISO. They got raked over the coals by Nikon and their loyal fans with the weak DR in the 5D3.

Fingers crossed they are listening, and using the extra time to deliver a solid punch in August.

Come on, 5D4, I have high hopes for you!

 

[kevl]

Better dynamic range, better low light noise performance, and focus points that I can see against a dark scene and I will simply say "Take my money please!"

 

[candyman]

And don't forget.... EC in M-mode when using Auto ISO

 

[DonS]

Why keep the same name? These are really all different cameras. Why not the mythical 3D and a 4D and the 5D Mk IV? Why all variations of the 5D? I know they will all use the same body, but they are really different cameras.

 

[pedro]

They are saying all the words I want to hear. That could be a worthy successor to the 5DIII. Now, they just have to make it so.

24-28 MP
Cleaner low ISO noise
Whatever benefit they can get out of higher ISO
8 fps
etc....

A most modest increase in MP would be 24 MP for me.

 

[agierke]

Touchscreen is an altogether different problem. The 5D is still a prosumer and pro market camera...who may not want touchscreen to work through menus, etc.

count me in this camp. not once have i ever had trouble accessing a canon menu quick enough and thought to myself "i wish this was touchscreen so it would be easier"

on the contrary...my fat fingers had issues with the touch screen on an iphone 4s. i can only imagine how infuriating trying to deal with a touch screen that is much smaller would be.

for me...no thank you.

 

[photo212]

Great news for those chasing megapixels today concerning the 5DS, but really disappointing that those wanting modest improvements in the current line will need to wait until August 2015 for the 5D Mk IV. And even wait longer for the prices to drop a tad.

So, do I go another year with my 5D MkII? Or do I grab a Mk III when prices come down even more? Or wait?

"modest increase in megapixels"? 20+ megapixels is enough for anything I need. I want the increase to be in the quality of pixels themselves, not the quantity. If Canon says the Mk IV would be best as a 18MP, I'd take it, too. when chasing megapixels numbers, I consider the upgrade to my computer to process them as well. Better pixels, not more pixels for me.

 

[JonAustin]

I certainly hope it has a touch screen and wi-fi. It's long past time for these features to be integrated into upper end cameras.

Wi-Fi might be toucher because of how they build in the waterproofing.

Touchscreen is an altogether different problem. The 5D is still a prosumer and pro market camera...who may not want touchscreen to work through menus, etc.

I don't see any technical conflicts between WiFi and waterproofing.

I agree about touchscreens, though; I'd never use it. But I'm not opposed to touchscreen capability being added, so long as it can be turned off and doesn't degrade the visual quality of the LCD.

It would be great if the 5DIV would include the 1.3x and 1.6x cropping modes of the 5DS variants.

 

[docsmith]

Great news for those chasing megapixels today concerning the 5DS, but really disappointing that those wanting modest improvements in the current line will need to wait until August 2015 for the 5D Mk IV. And even wait longer for the prices to drop a tad.

So, do I go another year with my 5D MkII? Or do I grab a Mk III when prices come down even more? Or wait?

All depends on your needs and state of your current gear. I can tell you, I am not sure I will be upgrading from the 5DIII. Great camera.

 

[andrewflo]

I certainly hope it has a touch screen and wi-fi. It's long past time for these features to be integrated into upper end cameras.

Wi-Fi might be toucher because of how they build in the waterproofing.

Touchscreen is an altogether different problem. The 5D is still a prosumer and pro market camera...who may not want touchscreen to work through menus, etc.

I don't see any technical conflicts between WiFi and waterproofing.

I agree about touchscreens, though; I'd never use it. But I'm not opposed to touchscreen capability being added, so long as it can be turned off and doesn't degrade the visual quality of the LCD.

It would be great if the 5DIV would include the 1.3x and 1.6x cropping modes of the 5DS variants.

I believe Canon has stated something about a full magnesium alloy body making WiFi difficult. Which is why the top of the 6D is plastic. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

I use an EOS M and the touch screen is really really nice quality. Like more responsive/accurate than an iPhone. I'm not saying that I would prefer a touch screen to physical controls by any means, but if it was literally just a freebie (that could be turned off) and physical control took zero hit, I see no disadvantage to it

Swiping and zooming through photos is quite pleasing with the touch screen on the EOS M. And quickly tapping to position the focus box is fantastic. Though that only helps in live view.

For video (especially if there is DPAF), a touch screen might have major value. Might be more 6D territory than 5D though.

 

[dolina]

If a 5D Mark IV mentioned here with no Optical Low Pass Filter would be announced next Friday would be PERFECT to me.

Although I do wonder how CFA will useful considering printing and display technologies may not take advantage of it for the next 5 years or so?

 

[Lee Jay]

August?

Grrrr....

Trying to figure out what to do with replacements for my 20D and 5D.

I'm now leaning toward replacing the 20D with the 7DII for now, but this puts my lens switcheroo a bit out of order.

However, a 24MP 5DIV with great low-light performance, the 7DII AF system (or better), dual-pixel and 4k could well lead me to part with more cash than I was planning on.

 

[mrsfotografie]

Great news for those chasing megapixels today concerning the 5DS, but really disappointing that those wanting modest improvements in the current line will need to wait until August 2015 for the 5D Mk IV. And even wait longer for the prices to drop a tad.

So, do I go another year with my 5D MkII? Or do I grab a Mk III when prices come down even more? Or wait?

All depends on your needs and state of your current gear. I can tell you, I am not sure I will be upgrading from the 5DIII. Great camera.

I expect an evolutionary camera, with improvements across the board. I'll also probably wait a year or so for prices to come down like I did for the MkIII. Mind I expect less of a step in usability from the MkII to MkIV than it was going from the II to III. More DR would be nice, we'll see what Canon comes with (I don't really require much better low light performance than the MkIII is giving me).

 

[dash2k8]

The 4K video is highly intriguing, but if it turns out to be true, please don't botch it up with another blurry, mushy video codec. The 5D3 already does not compare to the a7s and the GH4 in terms of video performance. If it weren't for the great Canon lenses available versus the Sony and Panasonic offerings, the 5D3 would likely disappear on the video scene. Hope the 5D4 gets it right!