Why you should take your camera to family Weddings

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There is no excuse for the pro but we all make mistakes so how about improvising by quickly deleting a couple RAW shots and then switching to jpeg medium?

This would take 10 seconds and free up space for plenty of jpegs.

Anyway, I'm glad you saved the day!
 
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Kernuak said:
I think a lot of professionals think in terms of a card becoming corrupt and less to lose on a smaller capacity card. There are also some that think larger capacity cards are less reliable. There was probably a time when that may have been true, but I think it is less so now. Many pros aren't all that tech savvy though, they just want to shoot with tools that do the job.

Let's do a quick timeline here on this subject. Early this century when we were all shooting with 256Mb or 512Mb CF cards, the new HUGE 1Gb cards started shipping. Cautious photographers said, " Oh no...we'll stick with the smaller cards and spread the risk. You can't put all your eggs in one basket". Exactly the same conversation happened on forums when 2Gb, 4Gb, 8Gb etc CF cards started shipping.

Ten years ago I got caught with a too small card on my first job with the 1Ds, a massive 11.4 Mp camera. I've never been caught short again; glad to have a pocket full of fast high quality 32Gb cards. And in 12 years shooting digital, touch wood, I've never had a card failure. All my CF cards get retired after 18 months maximum. They are always top-end Sandisk or Lexar. They're never dropped, and always formatted in camera. They get a deep full format in the computer 2-3 times a year. This all may be complete overkill, but face it, the reliability runs are on the board. Against the possibility of messing up a job or even losing a client, CF cards are cheap.

In this day and age, it's inexcusable for any professional shooter to run short of space at the wrong moment. Part of your professionalism is to anticipate, and up to a point, predict the (near) future.

OP, I'm glad you brought your camera to the wedding. And you got the shot!

-PW
 
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cps_user said:
I shoot weddings on 2 5d3, each with a 64gb sd for raw and 32 cf cards for raw too. I usually only have to switch one card during the whole day. And I always look out for the right moment to do so.

congrats on your daughter by the way!

How's your performance on the 64GB SD cards? I recently forgot to take a CF card with me when I ran to the park for some dusk shots -- I wasn't worried, since I only planned on shooting for a half hour -- and had to use my 32GB SD backup card. I found the performance really frustrating. I knew the SD slot wasn't UHS, but trying to review shots after I took them was horrible; Some very obvious lag when pulling up images for immediate review. I definitely won't be using the SD slot for serious shooting in the future... Only for after I've filled up my CF cards. A real shame, there.
 
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I use three 32Gb Sandisk Extreme cards with my 5DMkII. I shoot only in Raw (max resolution) and each card holds more than 1000 pictures. One card is permanently on a Sandisk keychain it came with. That key chain is attached to my car keychain which is at my pocket. And ... I am an amateur! So this is not acceptable for a professional. Unless he found an excuse...
 
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Did she sprint down the isle for him not to have time to switch cards?? No excuses for that... I use my second slot as a pure backup.

Maybe cameras being used for sports and weddings should have a warning in the VF (with variable setting) when this and that many shots left?
 
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"Oh my card filled up" may not be true though, he might have figured that statement sounds better as "it's a technical problem that could easily happen since I take so many shots!" But what the duck, my first wedding went better than that, I was inexperienced but did it for a next to nothing for a couple I knew, and even though I was worried my two 32GB cards might fill up, I was a little more worried that my single camera could fail. Not very wise that I had only one body, but I got all the important/required shots (it was a small venue anyway). Though, I did miss some nice dancing/candid moments due to my AF just not locking on and missing, now that's a technical problem that everyone can have trouble with.

And @ Viggo, a little warning might benefit some, but any photog who isn't just machine gunning away should be well aware of how many more shots they can take
 
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absolutely inexcusable. i shoot weddings every weekend, sometimes multiple weddings in a single weekend. for that reason i carry with me (at all times) over 100gb of 8gb CF cards split between 2 cameras. i keep them in a soft card case (Tenba) that is attached to my belt for quick and easy access.

i typically log anywhere from 2500-3000 shots per wedding and am constantly checking the frame count of both my cameras and the cameras of the second shooter. i dont use anything larger than an 8gb card simply for the reason that i dont want to run the risk of a card getting lost or damaged and i lose too large a portion of the event. granted...any lost shots are a disaster but its about damage control. (another reason why having 2 shooters is so important).
 
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pwp said:
gbchriste said:
Inexcusable!!! I shot a wedding last weekend. Just before the ceremony, my 5D3 was reporting I still had 160 frames of open capacity on my 8GB card.

Professional event photographers still shoot with 8Gb cards? Phew! That's not a lot of shots on a 5D3 unless you are a JPEG shooter.
I'm still frequently surprised how fast a 32Gb card fills on the 5D3.

-PW

Thank kind of caught my eye too...I'm a complete noob, starting out with the 5D3 as my first DSLR...and from everything I read and studied before buying....well, let's put it this way, I've not bought anything less than 32GB....just wait till they go on sale, and pick up a couple here and there...both SD and CF.

I've been doing video too...so, I know how fast they can fill.....saving for 64GB ones....

I can understand if you have 8GB cards laying around from awhile back....waste not want not, but I'd think those would largely be relegated to just home use...not out on a job where you need capacity...?

C
 
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Kernuak said:
pwp said:
gbchriste said:
Inexcusable!!! I shot a wedding last weekend. Just before the ceremony, my 5D3 was reporting I still had 160 frames of open capacity on my 8GB card.

Professional event photographers still shoot with 8Gb cards? Phew! That's not a lot of shots on a 5D3 unless you are a JPEG shooter.
I'm still frequently surprised how fast a 32Gb card fills on the 5D3.

-PW
I think a lot of professionals think in terms of a card becoming corrupt and less to lose on a smaller capacity card.

That. I almost exclusively use only 8GB cards for that reason, but I also keep checking my shot count all the time. However whoever can't or doesn't want to keep monitoring space usage should by all means use larger cards. Either way people need to be obsessive compulsive when it comes to preparations because it's too easy to screw up.
 
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A couple things -- I kind of wish the actual photog was here to explain what actually happened. I can say on a few weddings I have second shot, I have missed shots --- why? Because I was not allowed to shoot on my own cards and one of theres took 2 shots then read full. I had the pouch in my pocket so i quickly shifted cards but the moment got lost. they weren't huge cards either, 1 8GB and 4 4 GB.. Later in the day I reformated the card and things it worked fine, but still --- sometimes there are errors.

I am just saying its real easy to throw the photog under the bus when he/she isn't here. Even easier seeing as though we have not seen these pics that saved the wedding!

Other things too ---

2 weddings ago my second shooter had a rented lens - this lens worked fine but at times the camera would error out saying ---the lens contacts were dirty or just overused ---either way, through the night she had to take the lens off and put it back on again several times. Just saying, lots can happen and this photog isn't here to defend him/herself - we don't know what went down and why it went down.

With that said though, really not sure why this tog didn't have a pouch of cards on him (ok, I can think of 1 reason --- if he had one of the card holders that closed via velcro, I would not want to be that guy making that velcro tearing noise at any point of the ceremony!)

To those who said just delete a few and switch to smaller file size...that isn't something you can do as the bride is coming down the aisle. That's for the tail end, after snapping a few thousand dancing shots, but the B&G are still going off on the dance floor and you've fill all the other cards already ---thats when you delete and switch file sizes (I always shoot in mRAW at weddings, full size RAW is overkill I think for anything but the formals). If your in that place, your only solution is to run run run (or, as someone else mentioned, this tog had 2 bodies, couldn't he have used the classic? Or, just snagged the lens from the classic and put it on the mk2? I think thats the biggest reason I wish this tog was here, because he/she had a solution ---hell that's why we have backup second bodies right? that didn't get used. Or even easier ---why not just use the card from the classic? Pretty easy and quick to make that switch. So yeah, I have to wonder if there was some other problem that his this togs camera had, and when asked about it is was just easier to say ran out of memory than to explain error messages..

And finally, lets see these shots that 'saved the day.' We're throwing this other tog under the bus based on a fishy excuse and the claim of day saving images that we haven't seen!!!!!

EDIT --- if your shots are good, and this guy did totally miss that ---instead of bragging here ---contact the tog and offer to sell him the shots!!!!
 
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gbchriste said:
Inexcusable!!! I shot a wedding last weekend. Just before the ceremony, my 5D3 was reporting I still had 160 frames of open capacity on my 8GB card. I still changed cards just before the processional started. Unless the photog faints during the ceremony they should capture everything from start to finish. If not, you deserve some kind of rebate for failure to deliver.

I just recently finished shooting my first wedding with my 5d3 and I had 3 CF cards and thank God the camera has that second slot for an SD as well, despite changing cards before each separate event (pre, ceremony, etc) I still ran over during the ceremony and the 5D3 automatically switched over the the SD card otherwise I would have missed the bride and groom walking out as the ceremony concluded!!
 
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jalbfb said:
I just recently finished shooting my first wedding with my 5d3 and I had 3 CF cards and thank God the camera has that second slot for an SD as well, despite changing cards before each separate event (pre, ceremony, etc) I still ran over during the ceremony and the 5D3 automatically switched over the the SD card otherwise I would have missed the bride and groom walking out as the ceremony concluded!!

What size cards were you using?
 
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preppyak said:
Chuck Alaimo said:
EDIT --- if your shots are good, and this guy did totally miss that ---instead of bragging here ---contact the tog and offer to sell him the shots!!!!
Yeah, this is a great suggestion if you like receiving emails that tell you where you can stick your head

Yeah why not cut out the middle man and extort money directly from her daughter.
 
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shadowsatnight said:
jalbfb said:
I just recently finished shooting my first wedding with my 5d3 and I had 3 CF cards and thank God the camera has that second slot for an SD as well, despite changing cards before each separate event (pre, ceremony, etc) I still ran over during the ceremony and the 5D3 automatically switched over the the SD card otherwise I would have missed the bride and groom walking out as the ceremony concluded!!

What size cards were you using?

Shooting RAW, I had 3 CF cards of 16, 16, 8 and the SD card was 16. I took over well over 600 pictures all told for the day's event. 10 bridesmaids, 8 groomsmen, 2 flower girls, 3 "ring bearers", two huge families, etc. I shot on continuous silent mode, but I didn't do a lot of rapid continuous shooting except for certain critical situations. I made the "mistake" of using the CF 8 for the ceremony.
 
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Chuck Alaimo said:
EDIT --- if your shots are good, and this guy did totally miss that ---instead of bragging here ---contact the tog and offer to sell him the shots!!!!

I am the mother of the bride - I have absolutely zero profit motive in this matter so of course I just gave the photos to my daughter.

I'm going to ignore the rest of your rant other than to say that I don't even know the photogs name, so he hasn't been identified and had his reputation tarnished due to being publicly critisized. I know things go wrong, but I do think he should have changed his card prior to the ceremony. If he still had an issue, he should have switched to his 5dc. There were no restrictions on what equipment he provided and used.
 
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My sincere Thank You to those who took a moment to congratulate me on my daughter's recent wedding. They are so obviously in love that it was a time of great joy that will be remembered forever.
 
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DCM1024 said:
My sincere Thank You to those who took a moment to congratulate me on my daughter's recent wedding. They are so obviously in love that it was a time of great joy that will be remembered forever.
And that's the important part. Plus, you have some great photos to remember the day by
 
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