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Take the 24 tse and you won't regret it. Sharp as it gets and providing you with all the possibilities you need when it comes to perspective.
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24/1.4II is visibly worse than 35/1.4 thus for example video is much better with 35/1.4.scarbo said:
Actually 35/1.4 is my widest rectilinear lens because I am not able to manually focus with 85/1.4, 135/2, thus I do not have 24TSII...
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To me, there doesn't look to be a difference, however, how lenses act in the field is far more important to me and if you need wider than 35mm, then the 35 f/1.4 isn't really going to be much use. 35mm is barely wideangle. Generally speaking, a 24mm lens is a landscape lens (although it does of course have other uses) and at f/8 to f/16 (by which time diffraction degrades sharpness), the 24 f/1,4 is plenty sharp enough, giving very good detail. It also has nice tonal qualities and contrast. From the reviews I read when trying to decide what to go for, the Zeiss 21mm was a similar sharpness overall (although possibly slightly sharper in the corners), agian with good contrast, but with a different look, which could suit some more than others.PavelR said:
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insanitybeard said:@!ex, some fantastic images there. Where were they taken?
Thanks! Most in or around Breckenridge and Vail, CO, and one on the coast near San Francisco.
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mrsfotografie said:extremeinstability said:
Considering the 14mm F2.8 Samyang myself as the 14L II is out of my budget for such a specialty lens. Am a little worried about possible QC issues with the Samyang though, it really is that cheap! :
14mm is in! A few quick shots and I'm impressed with the whole package for only 320 euro's 8)
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mrsfotografie said:mrsfotografie said:extremeinstability said:
Considering the 14mm F2.8 Samyang myself as the 14L II is out of my budget for such a specialty lens. Am a little worried about possible QC issues with the Samyang though, it really is that cheap! :
14mm is in! A few quick shots and I'm impressed with the whole package for only 320 euro's 8)
Cool. Mine is pretty impressive so far as well. One thing I've noted is according to lenstip the canon only beat it in distortion, build and having autofocus. Pretty fast I'm noticing their vignetting results having it better than the Canon just isn't true. So Canon wins that one too. I'm not sure how useful it will be at F2.8. But anyway, lenstip has it -2.58 EV full open fall off, while they have the canon -3.00. I used the Canon earlier this year and it was clear pretty fast with this Samyang it's vignetting wide open was even more severe. Photozone has this the right way and backward from what lenstip says.
I also just bought a 50mm F1.4 and noticed in looking at the options lenstip had the sigma and even the 1.4 zeiss smoking the canon wide open and stopped down. Like the canon looked like ass. I look at photozone and the opposite again. Picked up the canon 50 1.4 yesterday and it is great. I guess I'm not so excited for lenstip reviews at this point. Or perhaps it's just reviews in general are in a way kinda pointless given how so many don't at all match up with others. Like you have to find 4 or 5 and pick the winners that way. Or just buy the dang things.
Figured since I'd been praising the samyang over the canon so much that I'd mention this anyway. You stop that thing to F4 and still a lot of vignetting but by F5.6 it's a non-issue and gone by F8. I'm amazed it is so sharp even wide open though, corner to corner full frame. Also the flare deal is a nice thing to see as well. I can point it at the sun with no worry. There's only one small angle to hold it with the sun way in the corner to get that flare to shoot across. It's such a tiny range it's not an issue.
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JoaoPedro said:
Is there any chance a short extension tube would help with minimum focus distance problem? That doesn't help with flare, but might help for many shots. I'm just assuming that if you're focusing inside 50cm you're willing to give up infinity-focus.
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extremeinstability said:mrsfotografie said:mrsfotografie said:extremeinstability said:
Considering the 14mm F2.8 Samyang myself as the 14L II is out of my budget for such a specialty lens. Am a little worried about possible QC issues with the Samyang though, it really is that cheap! :
14mm is in! A few quick shots and I'm impressed with the whole package for only 320 euro's 8)
Cool. Mine is pretty impressive so far as well. One thing I've noted is according to lenstip the canon only beat it in distortion, build and having autofocus. Pretty fast I'm noticing their vignetting results having it better than the Canon just isn't true. So Canon wins that one too. I'm not sure how useful it will be at F2.8. But anyway, lenstip has it -2.58 EV full open fall off, while they have the canon -3.00. I used the Canon earlier this year and it was clear pretty fast with this Samyang it's vignetting wide open was even more severe. Photozone has this the right way and backward from what lenstip says.
I also just bought a 50mm F1.4 and noticed in looking at the options lenstip had the sigma and even the 1.4 zeiss smoking the canon wide open and stopped down. Like the canon looked like ass. I look at photozone and the opposite again. Picked up the canon 50 1.4 yesterday and it is great. I guess I'm not so excited for lenstip reviews at this point. Or perhaps it's just reviews in general are in a way kinda pointless given how so many don't at all match up with others. Like you have to find 4 or 5 and pick the winners that way. Or just buy the dang things.
Figured since I'd been praising the samyang over the canon so much that I'd mention this anyway. You stop that thing to F4 and still a lot of vignetting but by F5.6 it's a non-issue and gone by F8. I'm amazed it is so sharp even wide open though, corner to corner full frame. Also the flare deal is a nice thing to see as well. I can point it at the sun with no worry. There's only one small angle to hold it with the sun way in the corner to get that flare to shoot across. It's such a tiny range it's not an issue.
It's too early to report back on my experience as I still have to take the thing out in the field. I'm not too worried about its shortcomings though as resolution and a lack of chromatic aberration are the highest priority to me. Distortion and vignetting I can live with as I intend to use it in a more artistic sense - not for architecture etc. The color rendition looks good too at first glance. I'm a happy camper and looking forward to my first photo-shoot with it
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mrsfotografie said:extremeinstability said:mrsfotografie said:mrsfotografie said:extremeinstability said:
Considering the 14mm F2.8 Samyang myself as the 14L II is out of my budget for such a specialty lens. Am a little worried about possible QC issues with the Samyang though, it really is that cheap! :
14mm is in! A few quick shots and I'm impressed with the whole package for only 320 euro's 8)
Cool. Mine is pretty impressive so far as well. One thing I've noted is according to lenstip the canon only beat it in distortion, build and having autofocus. Pretty fast I'm noticing their vignetting results having it better than the Canon just isn't true. So Canon wins that one too. I'm not sure how useful it will be at F2.8. But anyway, lenstip has it -2.58 EV full open fall off, while they have the canon -3.00. I used the Canon earlier this year and it was clear pretty fast with this Samyang it's vignetting wide open was even more severe. Photozone has this the right way and backward from what lenstip says.
I also just bought a 50mm F1.4 and noticed in looking at the options lenstip had the sigma and even the 1.4 zeiss smoking the canon wide open and stopped down. Like the canon looked like ass. I look at photozone and the opposite again. Picked up the canon 50 1.4 yesterday and it is great. I guess I'm not so excited for lenstip reviews at this point. Or perhaps it's just reviews in general are in a way kinda pointless given how so many don't at all match up with others. Like you have to find 4 or 5 and pick the winners that way. Or just buy the dang things.
Figured since I'd been praising the samyang over the canon so much that I'd mention this anyway. You stop that thing to F4 and still a lot of vignetting but by F5.6 it's a non-issue and gone by F8. I'm amazed it is so sharp even wide open though, corner to corner full frame. Also the flare deal is a nice thing to see as well. I can point it at the sun with no worry. There's only one small angle to hold it with the sun way in the corner to get that flare to shoot across. It's such a tiny range it's not an issue.
It's too early to report back on my experience as I still have to take the thing out in the field. I'm not too worried about its shortcomings though as resolution and a lack of chromatic aberration are the highest priority to me. Distortion and vignetting I can live with as I intend to use it in a more artistic sense - not for architecture etc. The color rendition looks good too at first glance. I'm a happy camper and looking forward to my first photo-shoot with it
I'm interested in this as well. Definitely not a lens I'd be looking for for architecture, or necessarily for landscape although I might use it some for that occasionally. With 14mm you can do a lot different things artistically!
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Here is one from last night with a couple full sized crops. I didn't do any sharpening just the default setting in CS6 raw converter. Pretty good even on the edge to get the bare tree tops showing way out there.
http://www.extremeinstability.com/stormpics/2012/lake.jpg
http://www.extremeinstability.com/stormpics/2012/lake-edge-crop.jpg
http://www.extremeinstability.com/stormpics/2012/lake-center-crop.jpg
I just got that lens, the 50 F1.4 canon and the 24mm F1.4 canon. I plan to do some examples on the site like full sized crops at various apertures, mostly for full frame corner examples. So fwiw there'd probably be more examples of the samyang on that. Also do the real world vignetting samples. From a brief glance at some I did, it doesn't seem the wide open corners are really any softer than stopped down. So you don't even need to stop down for the corners. Vignetting quite a lot happier at F5.6. And even the heavy vignetting at F2.8 can work obviously, so long as it's not a very high dynamic range scene, which you cold then count on banding when prying that open.
I don't know what I shot that at. Between F5.6 and F8. Probably F8. It was at 1/8th a second with no mirror locking up done. (my stupid 5D II won't shoot correctly with live view on either...shows it right by the photo is way blown out....turn live view off and take it instead and it is fine...annoying)
http://www.extremeinstability.com/stormpics/2012/lake.jpg
http://www.extremeinstability.com/stormpics/2012/lake-edge-crop.jpg
http://www.extremeinstability.com/stormpics/2012/lake-center-crop.jpg
I just got that lens, the 50 F1.4 canon and the 24mm F1.4 canon. I plan to do some examples on the site like full sized crops at various apertures, mostly for full frame corner examples. So fwiw there'd probably be more examples of the samyang on that. Also do the real world vignetting samples. From a brief glance at some I did, it doesn't seem the wide open corners are really any softer than stopped down. So you don't even need to stop down for the corners. Vignetting quite a lot happier at F5.6. And even the heavy vignetting at F2.8 can work obviously, so long as it's not a very high dynamic range scene, which you cold then count on banding when prying that open.
I don't know what I shot that at. Between F5.6 and F8. Probably F8. It was at 1/8th a second with no mirror locking up done. (my stupid 5D II won't shoot correctly with live view on either...shows it right by the photo is way blown out....turn live view off and take it instead and it is fine...annoying)
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Yeah I can eventually. Waiting on the 24 to get back on Tuesday then run them all through some paces. But there are some great full size examples to look at here: http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/532-samyang14f28eosff?start=2 The two lower left ones in particular were pretty good for judging.
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extremeinstability said:
Looks to me like it's pretty sharp towards the edges/corners, although with the corners you get that awesome crazy perspective distortion 8) I'm liking this...I think I'll put this on the list for a holiday buy if they do a sale and/or I find the money. Or I win the lotto and buy all the rest of the lenses on my list. I can dream, right?
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Try a Zeiss 25 f2 before you go ahead with your purchase.
http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/713-zeiss25f2eosff?start=1
It is the new WA from Zeiss.
The 21 is a bit oldish, the new has more "micro"contrast and better colours, as well as corner sharpness. Less moustache as well.
The only problem with it is - when you have one of them you want more of them...
http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/713-zeiss25f2eosff?start=1
It is the new WA from Zeiss.
The 21 is a bit oldish, the new has more "micro"contrast and better colours, as well as corner sharpness. Less moustache as well
. The only problem with it is - when you have one of them you want more of them...
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Damn, I cant believe how awesome this lens is for its price. I just checked out photozone's samples and the ones in samyang flickr groups. Freakin sharp and lovely contrast! 
The corners are amazing for its class!
The corners are amazing for its class!
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I don't know what I shot that at. Between F5.6 and F8. Probably F8. It was at 1/8th a second with no mirror locking up done. (my stupid 5D II won't shoot correctly with live view on either...shows it right by the photo is way blown out....turn live view off and take it instead and it is fine...annoying)
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Had the same problem with my 60D in Live View Mode : exposure all messed up and I kept cursing against my poor camera... until I used the eyepiece cover !!
For the 5D II, see User Manual p.100 ... does that help ?
good luck
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Had the same problem with my 60D in Live View Mode : exposure all messed up and I kept cursing against my poor camera... until I used the eyepiece cover !!
For the 5D II, see User Manual p.100 ... does that help ?
good luck
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killswitch said:Damn, I cant believe how awesome this lens is for its price. I just checked out photozone's samples and the ones in samyang flickr groups. Freakin sharp and lovely contrast!
;D This Sammy 14 deserves a nickname. Any suggestions? ;D
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