Will I jump ship to " Sony Alphe a7R " for 36 MP camera ?

[dadgummit]

The Sony a7r seems like the Canon full frame mirrorless we have been waiting for. In fact it is exactly the same as if Canon produced it:

If canon had a Mirrorless FF:
you would buy the new body
There would be a couple of special naitive lenses available that are not useful on any other camera
you would buy the adapter to use your Canon glass.

With Sony's Mirrorless FF:
you would buy the new body
There are a couple of special naitive lenses available that are not useful on any other camera
you would buy the adapter to use your Canon glass.

Exactly the same thing with one exception... you would get better DR with the Sony sensor.

 

[sjprg]

Yes!!! I'm D*** tired of waiting for Canon to get off the movie path and back on the still camera path.
I plan to add the A7R to my Nikon D800E. Then I can use all of my Canon/Nikon glass. My 1DSIII sits idle now except for special projects.

 

[Dylan777]

PLEASE DON'T PUT CANON L lenses on this beauty :-\

Why? Shouldn't the owner use whatever combination of hardware is needed for a particular purpose?

ASK yourself a question before buying A7R mirrorless. If compactness, IQ and balance are not important, than why not just shoot with Canon/Nikon DSLR.

I simply don't give comment and suggestion on something that I haven't touched. The Zeiss FE 55mm f1.8 is a SOLID piece of glass. The IQ is good or slightly better than my 24-70 II from f2.8 to f8.

The Zeiss FE series is design to bring the best of Sony A7 series. Not to mention, AF speed of Canon lenses on A7 series is REALLY slow. Have you ever shoot EOS-M with original firmware?

If you want to play the game, play it right. If you want the best IQ from A7r, stay with native lenses

 

[Orangutan]

PLEASE DON'T PUT CANON L lenses on this beauty :-\

Why? Shouldn't the owner use whatever combination of hardware is needed for a particular purpose?

ASK yourself a question before buying A7R mirrorless. If compactness, IQ and balance are not important, than why not just shoot with Canon/Nikon DSLR.

I simply don't give comment and suggestion on something that I haven't touched. The Zeiss FE 55mm f1.8 is a SOLID piece of glass. The IQ is good or slightly better than my 24-70 II from f2.8 to f8.

The Zeiss FE series is design to bring the best of Sony A7 series. Not to mention, AF speed of Canon lenses on A7 series is REALLY slow. Have you ever shoot EOS-M with original firmware?

If you want to play the game, play it right. If you want the best IQ from A7r, stay with native lenses

This seems like a false dichotomy. If I had infinite $$ I would get the best of everything, including all native lenses. If I have great Canon glass, but want to make use of some of the advantages of the Sony, then maybe I'll compromise. Or maybe I'll leave the Sony alone and wait for Canon to give me something comparable.

Each photographer has different needs, expectations and hopes for their craft, and each should do whatever is appropriate to pursue those. For example, some people buy a reversing ring rather than buy a macro lens. Compromise? Yes. Are there some great macro shots through reversed lenses? I think so.

 

[Random Orbits]

ASK yourself a question before buying A7R mirrorless. If compactness, IQ and balance are not important, than why not just shoot with Canon/Nikon DSLR.

I simply don't give comment and suggestion on something that I haven't touched. The Zeiss FE 55mm f1.8 is a SOLID piece of glass. The IQ is good or slightly better than my 24-70 II from f2.8 to f8.

The Zeiss FE series is design to bring the best of Sony A7 series. Not to mention, AF speed of Canon lenses on A7 series is REALLY slow. Have you ever shoot EOS-M with original firmware?

If you want to play the game, play it right. If you want the best IQ from A7r, stay with native lenses

Except that there are how many native lenses? 28-70 and a 55?

For Canon landscape shooters, the A7R may be the perfect solution right now. Manual focus is preferred so AF is not an issue AND you get to use superior Canon glass: TS-E 17, TS-E 24, 24-70. Nikon can't match those lenses and neither can Sony/Zeiss. And if one wanted to use the 14-24, then an adaptor can be used rather than introducing another camera system.

 

[Rienzphotoz]

There are a couple of special naitive lenses available that are not useful on any other camera

The FE lenses can be used and are also useful on all of the 11 other Sony mirrorless Cameras (in addition to a7/a7R), and 7 Sony Camcorders ... i.e those 4 full frame lenses currently available, are useful on 20 Sony cameras without any adapters.

 

[Dylan777]

Except that there are how many native lenses? 28-70 and a 55?

For Canon landscape shooters, the A7R may be the perfect solution right now. Manual focus is preferred so AF is not an issue AND you get to use superior Canon glass: TS-E 17, TS-E 24, 24-70. Nikon can't match those lenses and neither can Sony/Zeiss. And if one wanted to use the 14-24, then an adaptor can be used rather than introducing another camera system.

Zeiss FE 35, 55, 24-70 and 70-200…don’t you think this is decent list for NEW small camera? What else do you want – 400mm, 600mm for BIF? I wish they have UWA prime instead of 70-200.

I don’t own Canon TS-e17, 24 so I will not comment on that. However, I have about 40 photos taken with A7 + Zeiss FE 55mm f1.8 that I compared to:

1. 5D III + 50L from f1.8 to f5.6 – ISO 100, 400, 800, 1600(50L ONLY slightly better @ f1.8, from f2 to 5.6 zeiss has upper hand)
2. 5D III + 24-70 II @ 50mmish - f2.8 to f8 – ISO 100, 400, 800, 1600

All shots were on tripod and raw files were converted through LR5 with just +25 sharpness, +10 contrast.

On my 27” LG monitor, the Zeiss FE 55 seems to be as good as Canon, even slightly better. I have no problem sharing these photos. Are you willing to share your TS-E 17, TS-E 24, 24-70 more superior than Zeiss?

 

[Dylan777]

PLEASE DON'T PUT CANON L lenses on this beauty :-\

Why? Shouldn't the owner use whatever combination of hardware is needed for a particular purpose?

ASK yourself a question before buying A7R mirrorless. If compactness, IQ and balance are not important, than why not just shoot with Canon/Nikon DSLR.

I simply don't give comment and suggestion on something that I haven't touched. The Zeiss FE 55mm f1.8 is a SOLID piece of glass. The IQ is good or slightly better than my 24-70 II from f2.8 to f8.

The Zeiss FE series is design to bring the best of Sony A7 series. Not to mention, AF speed of Canon lenses on A7 series is REALLY slow. Have you ever shoot EOS-M with original firmware?

If you want to play the game, play it right. If you want the best IQ from A7r, stay with native lenses

This seems like a false dichotomy. If I had infinite $$ I would get the best of everything, including all native lenses. If I have great Canon glass, but want to make use of some of the advantages of the Sony, then maybe I'll compromise. Or maybe I'll leave the Sony alone and wait for Canon to give me something comparable.

Each photographer has different needs, expectations and hopes for their craft, and each should do whatever is appropriate to pursue those. For example, some people buy a reversing ring rather than buy a macro lens. Compromise? Yes. Are there some great macro shots through reversed lenses? I think so.

Let's not hi-jack OP thread. It doesn't make any sense for you and me to cont. with this discussion. There are a lot of spec readers on CR... :

 

[Random Orbits]

Except that there are how many native lenses? 28-70 and a 55?

For Canon landscape shooters, the A7R may be the perfect solution right now. Manual focus is preferred so AF is not an issue AND you get to use superior Canon glass: TS-E 17, TS-E 24, 24-70. Nikon can't match those lenses and neither can Sony/Zeiss. And if one wanted to use the 14-24, then an adaptor can be used rather than introducing another camera system.

Zeiss FE 35, 55, 24-70 and 70-200…don’t you think this is decent list for NEW small camera? What else do you want – 400mm, 600mm for BIF? I wish they have UWA prime instead of 70-200.

I don’t own Canon TS-e17, 24 so I will not comment on that. However, I have about 40 photos taken with A7 + Zeiss FE 55mm f1.8 that I compared to:

1. 5D III + 50L from f1.8 to f5.6 – ISO 100, 400, 800, 1600(50L ONLY slightly better @ f1.8, from f2 to 5.6 zeiss has upper hand)
2. 5D III + 24-70 II @ 50mmish - f2.8 to f8 – ISO 100, 400, 800, 1600

All shots were on tripod and raw files were converted through LR5 with just +25 sharpness, +10 contrast.

On my 27” LG monitor, the Zeiss FE 55 seems to be as good as Canon, even slightly better. I have no problem sharing these photos. Are you willing to share your TS-E 17, TS-E 24, 24-70 more superior than Zeiss?

You should read what was written more carefully. Orangutan was pointing out that are those that would profit from using a A7R with their existing lens set, and you lambasted him for it. I agreed with him -- different tools for different purposes. There is already another thread on this forum where a canon pro uses the a7r for landscape purposes and the a7r gives him higher resolution and shadow recovery while allowing him to keep his canon glass. He also noted that there MAY be issues with the a7r at certain shutter speeds with telephoto focal lengths. I agree with this as well, which is mostly what I posted earlier about how the a7r can be useful to canon landscape shooters.

It is not a surprise that viewfinder cameras can have sharpness advantages over DSLRs. Leicas have had the resolution advantage over Canikons for years. The Zeisses are also optimized more easily than adapted lenses for peripheral microlenses). And no, the 35, 55 (just came out), 24-70 (is it out yet?) and 70-200 (is it out yet?) are not enough to rely on Sony as stand-alone system. And no, many of us can not AFFORD to buy multiple systems like you are able to.

True, I don't post ANY photos of my family or friends on the internet. I have done some jobs for home builders and friends on the side, but photography remains a hobby, but here are 2 taken with the TS-E that were posted last year.

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=295.msg287604#msg287604

 

[Dylan777]

Except that there are how many native lenses? 28-70 and a 55?

For Canon landscape shooters, the A7R may be the perfect solution right now. Manual focus is preferred so AF is not an issue AND you get to use superior Canon glass: TS-E 17, TS-E 24, 24-70. Nikon can't match those lenses and neither can Sony/Zeiss. And if one wanted to use the 14-24, then an adaptor can be used rather than introducing another camera system.

Zeiss FE 35, 55, 24-70 and 70-200…don’t you think this is decent list for NEW small camera? What else do you want – 400mm, 600mm for BIF? I wish they have UWA prime instead of 70-200.

I don’t own Canon TS-e17, 24 so I will not comment on that. However, I have about 40 photos taken with A7 + Zeiss FE 55mm f1.8 that I compared to:

1. 5D III + 50L from f1.8 to f5.6 – ISO 100, 400, 800, 1600(50L ONLY slightly better @ f1.8, from f2 to 5.6 zeiss has upper hand)
2. 5D III + 24-70 II @ 50mmish - f2.8 to f8 – ISO 100, 400, 800, 1600

All shots were on tripod and raw files were converted through LR5 with just +25 sharpness, +10 contrast.

On my 27” LG monitor, the Zeiss FE 55 seems to be as good as Canon, even slightly better. I have no problem sharing these photos. Are you willing to share your TS-E 17, TS-E 24, 24-70 more superior than Zeiss?

You should read what was written more carefully. Orangutan was pointing out that are those that would profit from using a A7R with their existing lens set, and you lambasted him for it. I agreed with him -- different tools for different purposes. There is already another thread on this forum where a canon pro uses the a7r for landscape purposes and the a7r gives him higher resolution and shadow recovery while allowing him to keep his canon glass. He also noted that there MAY be issues with the a7r at certain shutter speeds with telephoto focal lengths. I agree with this as well, which is mostly what I posted earlier about how the a7r can be useful to canon landscape shooters.

It is not a surprise that viewfinder cameras can have sharpness advantages over DSLRs. Leicas have had the resolution advantage over Canikons for years. The Zeisses are also optimized more easily than adapted lenses for peripheral microlenses). And no, the 35, 55 (just came out), 24-70 (is it out yet?) and 70-200 (is it out yet?) are not enough to rely on Sony as stand-alone system. And no, many of us can not AFFORD to buy multiple systems like you are able to.

True, I don't post ANY photos of my family or friends on the internet. I have done some jobs for home builders and friends on the side, but photography remains a hobby, but here are 2 taken with the TS-E that were posted last year.

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=295.msg287604#msg287604

Therefore, stay with native lenses. Keep the system small & light, easy to carry around. That's #1 reason people buy mirrorless over DSLR.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Dear Friends and Teachers.
I have read " Fred Miranda has completed his review of the Sony A7R camera body using Canon EF lenses.
Read the full review | Sony A7R at B&H Photo" from front page of CR., and start to hit center of my heart that Why Canon not do like this too, Yes, I am waiting for Canon 3D= 36 + MP, or Canon 1DS MK IV = 36 + MP for many years already, BUT Canon do nothing like this. Yes, I check the Price of Sony Alpha a7R at B&H = $ 2,298 US Dollars + Canon EF Lens adapter = $ 350 US Dollars = Total $ 2,648 US Dollars = Super Cheap compare to Canon Top Line 1DX MK I.
Yes, Sir, My stupid question ( I have GAS./ Gear Acqisittion Syndrome Illness NOW) is= I should wait another 6-9 months to get the Canon 36 MP. or Jump the ship to buy Sony Alpha a7R now ??? .

YES, Sir, The More I use Canon EOS-M past 3 weeks, The More I love the Size of Tiny EOS-M, and the quality of the photos of this tiny camera.---And Sony Alpha a7R ( have eye AF control like my Old Canon A2E too) is a lot smaller than Canon 1Dx too.
Thanks for your answer, Sir.
Surapon

Surapon. I bought a D800 when they first came out, and discovered the limitations of a 36mp sensor. You can capture a beautiful sharp image when in bright light using a very high shutter speed, or with great care on a very sturdy tripod.
However, when light gets low and you have to use high iso and slower shutter speeds, its very difficult to get a sharp image due to even tiny amounts of movement, and the noise and DR are worse than the 5D MK III.

So a careful photographer with good lighting and a fast shutter speed can take advantage of all those pixels. Many have just given up and sold their D800's because they don't know how or are not willing to use enough care to see the benefits. The 5D MK III is easy to use at ISO 25600, but the D800 is not easy. I think that based on your work, you are a person who would be able to take good advantage of it.

You do have 30 day return rights when you buy from B&H or Adorama, so if it does not work out well for you, return it. Use s American Express credit card for the purchase, and you tack on a extra year to the warranty at no cost.

 

[LightandMotion]

I've been using the A7R now for the past 3 months, with both Canon glass and Zeiss ZE glass for EF mount. The dynamic range is superior to my 1dx, and although I had initially intended it to use for landscapes only, I've also been using it for portraits and events. With Canon glass, AF is slow, but manual focus is easy and accurate with focus peaking. However it's useless for sports and tracking, so that's where Canon remains superior with AF and tracking. I've also reviewed it back in Dec last year, but have updated the review with more recent images:

http://www.lightandmotionphotography.com/section467038_273521.html

 

[Rienzphotoz]

Dear Friends and Teachers.
I have read " Fred Miranda has completed his review of the Sony A7R camera body using Canon EF lenses.
Read the full review | Sony A7R at B&H Photo" from front page of CR., and start to hit center of my heart that Why Canon not do like this too, Yes, I am waiting for Canon 3D= 36 + MP, or Canon 1DS MK IV = 36 + MP for many years already, BUT Canon do nothing like this. Yes, I check the Price of Sony Alpha a7R at B&H = $ 2,298 US Dollars + Canon EF Lens adapter = $ 350 US Dollars = Total $ 2,648 US Dollars = Super Cheap compare to Canon Top Line 1DX MK I.
Yes, Sir, My stupid question ( I have GAS./ Gear Acqisittion Syndrome Illness NOW) is= I should wait another 6-9 months to get the Canon 36 MP. or Jump the ship to buy Sony Alpha a7R now ??? .

YES, Sir, The More I use Canon EOS-M past 3 weeks, The More I love the Size of Tiny EOS-M, and the quality of the photos of this tiny camera.---And Sony Alpha a7R ( have eye AF control like my Old Canon A2E too) is a lot smaller than Canon 1Dx too.
Thanks for your answer, Sir.
Surapon

Surapon. I bought a D800 when they first came out, and discovered the limitations of a 36mp sensor. You can capture a beautiful sharp image when in bright light using a very high shutter speed, or with great care on a very sturdy tripod.
However, when light gets low and you have to use high iso and slower shutter speeds, its very difficult to get a sharp image due to even tiny amounts of movement, and the noise and DR are worse than the 5D MK III.

So a careful photographer with good lighting and a fast shutter speed can take advantage of all those pixels. Many have just given up and sold their D800's because they don't know how or are not willing to use enough care to see the benefits. The 5D MK III is easy to use at ISO 25600, but the D800 is not easy. I think that based on your work, you are a person who would be able to take good advantage of it.

You do have 30 day return rights when you buy from B&H or Adorama, so if it does not work out well for you, return it. Use s American Express credit card for the purchase, and you tack on a extra year to the warranty at no cost.

+1

 

[MLfan3]

Dear Friends and Teachers.
I have read " Fred Miranda has completed his review of the Sony A7R camera body using Canon EF lenses.
Read the full review | Sony A7R at B&H Photo" from front page of CR., and start to hit center of my heart that Why Canon not do like this too, Yes, I am waiting for Canon 3D= 36 + MP, or Canon 1DS MK IV = 36 + MP for many years already, BUT Canon do nothing like this. Yes, I check the Price of Sony Alpha a7R at B&H = $ 2,298 US Dollars + Canon EF Lens adapter = $ 350 US Dollars = Total $ 2,648 US Dollars = Super Cheap compare to Canon Top Line 1DX MK I.
Yes, Sir, My stupid question ( I have GAS./ Gear Acqisittion Syndrome Illness NOW) is= I should wait another 6-9 months to get the Canon 36 MP. or Jump the ship to buy Sony Alpha a7R now ???.

YES, Sir, The More I use Canon EOS-M past 3 weeks, The More I love the Size of Tiny EOS-M, and the quality of the photos of this tiny camera.---And Sony Alpha a7R ( have eye AF control like my Old Canon A2E too) is a lot smaller than Canon 1Dx too.
Thanks for your answer, Sir.
Surapon

hey it all depends on what you shoot.
I have the A7R , the A7 , the 6D ,the 5d2 and the D800E....and I've just got Panasonic GX7

I think I'll keep them all for a while , they have different pros and cons, the A7R 's cons are:
1 super slow AF.
2 weak physical mount design(so do not use heavy lens on it via an adapter).
3 no quality native lenses other than the 55mm f1.8(if 55 is your favorite view , then it is great)
4 there is no proper flash system(so it cannot be a main camera for studio work or any location type of formal portrait work).
5 it's weather sealing is useless, it literally failed working in cold snow mountains a few times and I had to send it to Sony.
6 its ergonomics is not really good , the back LCD is of poor quality without sapphire glass protection.
7 this is a big con for me , its video mode is really a joke, the AVCHD codec really really is bad(in fact its video IQ is worse than that of my D800E) if you are interested in video aspect of this camera read EOS HD review on this one(he is quite honest).
8 the battery last very short especially in cold environment.
then go on to its pros:
1 the super clear EVF that allows you to actually see through what the camera is seeing rather than what you eye is seeing.
2 the peaking works really fine.
3 its low light AF is amazing although it may be a bit slower than most of D-SLRs or OM-D(it can go down to -4EV).
4 the AF is far more accurate than any of Canon Nikon D-SLRs.
5 it supports 1080/60P albeit the poor video IQ.
6 its metering system is far more accurate than any of mirror based D-SLR metering system.
7 it IQ literally rivals Leica S2 or Pentax 645D , not as good as real backs but better than any 35mm format cameras including the D800E.
8 it is small enough to put in my normal bag (not silly ugly camera bag)for my day work.
9 I can use it on subway or in a mall and no one freaks out at it or complains about it.
10 it does not invite annoying cops.

so while I feel this type of cameras will eventually win out the market and I like the A7R a lot more than I thought I would , honestly I do not think this line of Sony will become the choice of most advanced mirrorless cameras, I mean there will be a better executed one from someone else (maybe Samsung or Fuji), or at least wait for its successor.
the A7R is a good snap shooting camera but in real life , it is not versatile enough to be a main camera for most of us. it is too week and fragile to hold up a big lens, I think Sony rushed it a bit too much , should have matured it before actually releasing it.
after all , not so many people are willing to become beta testers for Sony, or lens selection or over all versatility for a bit better IQ or small body.
I was a beta tester this time , but next time I will try not to be an early adapter.

But if you do only tripod based landscapes or snaps of your everyday life (not including any kind of action), then it is a great camera for you.

so horses for courses always but if you want to try it just try it yourself and if you dislike it sell it. no amount of reading or what FM tells you helps you here, they are all paid or biased. try not to be naive , there are almost no fair objective reviews online.

 

[surapon]

Good Morning to Dear Teachers and Friends.
Yes, Because I live in a small town USA, Our local Camera shop will not order Sony Alpha a7R for me to use/ Try before I buy( Except I have to Pay him first, to order), , because of the Brand Name Sony---Not Canon or Nikon , which he can sell easy. In His/ the shop owner 's Idea ( Business thinking), Sony brand name are for snap shot for normal Typical Photographers---Not The Semi-PRO, or the PRO like you and Me.
BUT, dear Teachers and Friends---I already make decision that I will wait another 6 Months , for Canon 3D or 1DS MK IV = 36 to 42 MP. which to match to my all EF and L Lenses with out add on Lens converter.( 350 US Dollars).
Thousand thanks to your answers in this Post.
Have a Great Wednesday.
Surapon

 

[Dylan777]

Dear Friends and Teachers.
I have read " Fred Miranda has completed his review of the Sony A7R camera body using Canon EF lenses.
Read the full review | Sony A7R at B&H Photo" from front page of CR., and start to hit center of my heart that Why Canon not do like this too, Yes, I am waiting for Canon 3D= 36 + MP, or Canon 1DS MK IV = 36 + MP for many years already, BUT Canon do nothing like this. Yes, I check the Price of Sony Alpha a7R at B&H = $ 2,298 US Dollars + Canon EF Lens adapter = $ 350 US Dollars = Total $ 2,648 US Dollars = Super Cheap compare to Canon Top Line 1DX MK I.
Yes, Sir, My stupid question ( I have GAS./ Gear Acqisittion Syndrome Illness NOW) is= I should wait another 6-9 months to get the Canon 36 MP. or Jump the ship to buy Sony Alpha a7R now ??? .

YES, Sir, The More I use Canon EOS-M past 3 weeks, The More I love the Size of Tiny EOS-M, and the quality of the photos of this tiny camera.---And Sony Alpha a7R ( have eye AF control like my Old Canon A2E too) is a lot smaller than Canon 1Dx too.
Thanks for your answer, Sir.
Surapon

Surapon. I bought a D800 when they first came out, and discovered the limitations of a 36mp sensor. You can capture a beautiful sharp image when in bright light using a very high shutter speed, or with great care on a very sturdy tripod.
However, when light gets low and you have to use high iso and slower shutter speeds, its very difficult to get a sharp image due to even tiny amounts of movement, and the noise and DR are worse than the 5D MK III.

So a careful photographer with good lighting and a fast shutter speed can take advantage of all those pixels. Many have just given up and sold their D800's because they don't know how or are not willing to use enough care to see the benefits. The 5D MK III is easy to use at ISO 25600, but the D800 is not easy. I think that based on your work, you are a person who would be able to take good advantage of it.

You do have 30 day return rights when you buy from B&H or Adorama, so if it does not work out well for you, return it. Use s American Express credit card for the purchase, and you tack on a extra year to the warranty at no cost.

+1...another reason why we should buy from well known authourized dealer. BH is AWESOME. Most of my camera bodies and L lenses were bought through BH.

I recently bought Sony A7 + Zeiss 55mm from them, however, I decided to go with A7R. No problem with returning.

BH will get my next business Canon 600mm f4 II this year....

 

[Dylan777]

Good Morning to Dear Teachers and Friends.
Yes, Because I live in a small town USA, Our local Camera shop will not order Sony Alpha a7R for me to use/ Try before I buy( Except I have to Pay him first, to order), , because of the Brand Name Sony---Not Canon or Nikon , which he can sell easy. In His/ the shop owner 's Idea ( Business thinking), Sony brand name are for snap shot for normal Typical Photographers---Not The Semi-PRO, or the PRO like you and Me.
BUT, dear Teachers and Friends---I already make decision that I will wait another 6 Months , for Canon 3D or 1DS MK IV = 36 to 42 MP. which to match to my all EF and L Lenses with out add on Lens converter.( 350 US Dollars).
Thousand thanks to your answers in this Post.
Have a Great Wednesday.
Surapon

surapon,
Just cont. having fun with your EOS-M system. Future will be brighter and better

 

[MichaelHodges]

I bought the A7R a couple of weeks ago and I could not be happier. The resolution, dynamic range and overall IQ of this camera is stunning, and miles ahead of my 5D3 and the 1DX!

That is depressing. Not for you, of course.

 

[yorgasor]

I'm interested in playing with vintage lenses, many of which don't adapt well to the 5D3. The old Canon lenses are difficult to adapt to without a specialized EdMika adapter. Others go too far back and the mirror hits it when it flips up. The nice thing about the A7r is that with no mirror, you can connect pretty much any lens ever made to it. For those kinds of lenses, I wouldn't be doing sports or any other types of action shots anyway, the A7r seems like a perfect combination. That aspect really has my attention.

 

[Rienzphotoz]

I'm interested in playing with vintage lenses, many of which don't adapt well to the 5D3. The old Canon lenses are difficult to adapt to without a specialized EdMika adapter. Others go too far back and the mirror hits it when it flips up. The nice thing about the A7r is that with no mirror, you can connect pretty much any lens ever made to it. For those kinds of lenses, I wouldn't be doing sports or any other types of action shots anyway, the A7r seems like a perfect combination. That aspect really has my attention.

That's a good point ... I think there would be many senior photographers (who have used film cameras with lots of good lenses of that time for a long time) that would really be interested in shooting with the a7/a7R (assuming those photographers still have their old favorite lenses).